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Post by wednesburystokie on Jan 11, 2012 11:57:10 GMT
My memory fades as i get old, but, i seem to remember in the late 80's or early 90's some temporary dug outs being placed in front of the Butler street paddock.
Could someone please both confirm this was the case and also why they were put there.
As i remember they weren't there very long.
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Post by mark71 on Jan 11, 2012 12:06:06 GMT
It was the mid 80's.
Mick Mills had them put in for Sammy Chung.
Something about his after shave ;D
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Post by madelinesmithmmmh on Jan 11, 2012 12:12:54 GMT
There was always an enclosure at the corner of the Butler & Stoke End for the St John's Ambulance personnel.
Stood by there at my first game v Luton in 1963 (Stan's goal got us up). I had no idea what was going on but had never seen grown ups act like that before.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 11, 2012 12:45:16 GMT
"As i remember they weren't there very long."
As I remember they weren't there at all . . . . . unless someone knows different of course?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 11, 2012 12:48:35 GMT
They were definitely there. Remember George Berry sitting in there during one game with a pimps sheepskin on.
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Post by Davef on Jan 11, 2012 12:50:53 GMT
They were definitely there, around the 1987/88 season.
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Post by wednesburystokie on Jan 11, 2012 12:55:27 GMT
Thanks guys, i knew i wasnt going senile, yet....
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 11, 2012 13:10:48 GMT
PHOTO - or they weren't there!  |
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Post by wednesburystokie on Jan 11, 2012 13:15:15 GMT
PHOTO - or they weren't there! Hang on let me jump into my TARDIS, honestly mate they were, a wooden dug-out on the half way line by the Butler Street Paddock. |
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Post by lordb on Jan 11, 2012 13:15:54 GMT
there used to be a poster on here called SammyChungsDugOut
100% it was there
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2012 13:19:31 GMT
Everyone knows that unless there's a picture of it in front of the Boothen End draped in a scarf, it never happened. Always the Boothen End, never the Butler Street.
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Post by wednesburystokie on Jan 11, 2012 13:20:03 GMT
there used to be a poster on here called SammyChungsDugOut 100% it was there Thanks Lord, y_y_y, you cant just diss something just because you cant remember it. |
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Post by rawli on Jan 11, 2012 13:21:13 GMT
It's mentioned in Stoke City Etc podcast number 51 with Mick Mills. I remember because I asked the question what it was for.
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Post by lordb on Jan 11, 2012 13:22:04 GMT
what was it for?
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 11, 2012 13:22:24 GMT
PHOTO - or they weren't there! Hang on let me jump into my TARDIS, honestly mate they were, a wooden dug-out on the half way line by the Butler Street Paddock. There used to be a gas holder with ' Stoke up with Coke' on it, but dug-out's on the Butler Street half way line . . . . nah don't think so, unless photographic evidence is produced of course!  |
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Post by Mr Jon on Jan 11, 2012 13:24:54 GMT
PHOTO - or they weren't there! You're either a lot younger or more senile than I thought!  Don't you remember Sammy Chung sitting there in the 80s barking out instructions that were probably completely contrary to what Mills was shouting from the main dug-outs? No wonder we were so s**t in those days! PS : are you going to Valencia? |
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Post by onionman on Jan 11, 2012 13:28:00 GMT
Sammy Chung used to sit in it because he thought it gave him a different perspective on the game. That's what I remember anyway.
What a strange thing to do. Can't imagine a special dugout being built for Dave Kemp on the opposite side of the pitch to Pulis.
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Post by lordb on Jan 11, 2012 13:31:23 GMT
Speaking of Sammy Chung:
A friend of mind (bear with me,all this is true) had a mate (I said bear with me) who went to
the Czech Republic & opened a pub/bar/restaurant with a Vietnamese chap who was nominally the chef.
They decided to market the place as a Chinese food place however neither of them had any knowledge of Chinese cooking.
The English guy tried to replicate a Chinese menu as per his Chinese take away back in blighty so meals were approximated accordingly.
The Vietnamese guy would reate a dish & the Englishman would decide it was Kungo Po Chicken,Chop Suey,Singapore Fried rice e.t.c
Anyway the Vietnamese guy created one dish that didnt really correspond with any Chinese dish that the Englsihman could recall so he needed a chinese sounding name for it....
...Thereafter Chicken Sammy Chung turned out to be one of their best sellers!
As far as I know you can still order said dish in some corner of Bohemia to this day.
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Post by Davef on Jan 11, 2012 13:31:45 GMT
Here you go, not the best photo, but you can clearly see the Sammy Chung Dug Out behind Graham Shaw.  |
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Post by lordb on Jan 11, 2012 13:33:11 GMT
how sad am I
.that photo is v Huddersfield with their unique/horendous Yellow & black check kit
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 11, 2012 13:33:14 GMT
PHOTO - or they weren't there! You're either a lot younger or more senile than I thought! Hija mate, in answer to your first question, definitely more senile (wouldn't demented be a better way of putting it?) but probably not younger than you thought (know!) Re Valencia, wouldn't like to mention the fact that I'm still 'negotiating' with Mrs. Delilah because of all the redicule it may invoke on here, but let's just say - I'm still in the mix! ;D I do know you're going though! |
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Post by onionman on Jan 11, 2012 13:37:41 GMT
Speaking of Sammy Chung: A friend of mind (bear with me,all this is true) had a mate (I said bear with me) who went to the Czech Republic & opened a pub/bar/restaurant with a Vietnamese chap who was nominally the chef. They decided to market the place as a Chinese food place however neither of them had any knowledge of Chinese cooking. The English guy tried to replicate a Chinese menu as per his Chinese take away back in blighty so meals were approximated accordingly. The Vietnamese guy would reate a dish & the Englishman would decide it was Kungo Po Chicken,Chop Suey,Singapore Fried rice e.t.c Anyway the Vietnamese guy created one dish that didnt really correspond with any Chinese dish that the Englsihman could recall so he needed a chinese sounding name for it.... ...Thereafter Chicken Sammy Chung turned out to be one of their best sellers! As far as I know you can still order said dish in some corner of Bohemia to this day. And after a while Mick Mills and Keith Rowley made up a rule that anybody eating a Chicken Sammy Chung on a Friday night wasn't allowed to sit in the dugout for Saturday's match. Hence Sammy Chung had to come up with a radical new seating arrangement. |
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Post by onionman on Jan 11, 2012 13:40:29 GMT
how sad am I .that photo is v Huddersfield with their unique/horendous Yellow & black check kit I think I remember the game. Wasn't it a disappointing draw against a team that had lost 10-0 a couple of weeks earlier? |
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Post by Davef on Jan 11, 2012 13:42:08 GMT
how sad am I .that photo is v Huddersfield with their unique/horendous Yellow & black check kit That's right. They finished bottom of the league that season and were getting dicked left, right and centre. They lost 10-1 away at Man City a few weeks after this game. They drew this game 1-1. |
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Post by lordb on Jan 11, 2012 13:42:09 GMT
yes they lost 10.0 (or 10.1maybe) ast Man City
I think 3 players scored a hat-trick?
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Post by braddamick on Jan 11, 2012 13:49:02 GMT
The Butler St Dug-Outs were there for a short time. Idea from Mick Mills was that Sammy Chung could see what was going on down that side. So he could coach our winger and full back. Was it Chambo at that time ??
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Post by Mr Jon on Jan 11, 2012 13:53:21 GMT
You're either a lot younger or more senile than I thought! Hija mate, in answer to your first question, definitely more senile (wouldn't demented be a better way of putting it?) but probably not younger than you thought (know!) Re Valencia, wouldn't like to mention the fact that I'm still 'negotiating' with Mrs. Delilah because of all the redicule it may invoke on here, but let's just say - I'm still in the mix! ;D I do know you're going though! OK mate, PM me when you've successfully "concluded negotiations" so that we can meet up for a few jars in either Beners, Valencia.......or hopefully both! |
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Post by wednesburystokie on Jan 11, 2012 14:58:03 GMT
Pause at 17 seconds, sorry y oh y its a video not a picture |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 11, 2012 15:16:13 GMT
Pause at 17 seconds, sorry y oh y its a video not a picture Oh, you meant THAT dug out?! You should have said! ;D Cheers wednesbury, funnily enough (honest!) now that I've seen the your video, it does come to mind. |
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Post by donaldingleton on Jan 11, 2012 15:59:04 GMT
y_oh_y is quite correct. There was a gas holder that said 'Stoke Up With Coke', but there was another one that said 'Gas For the Home Points'.
I recall that the dug-outs referred to were for the St John's Ambulance people.
But here's one that goes back a good many years. Who recalls a hole appearing in the pitch that Johnny McCue could put his foot into, up to his ankle? Honest, I kid you not! It was approx at the corner of the penalty area nearest the Butler Street Stand, at the Stoke End. Play was halted while the groundstaff filled it in!
Whilst reminiscing, what about refs we have loved from years gone by? Who remembers Les Hamer from Bolton, or Roger Kirkpatrick from Leicester? And who was the clown in the first semi at Hillsborough who gave the corner in the closing minutes instead of a goal kick?
Who can remember Frank Mountford owning a chip shop in Burslem, or Frank Bowyer's newsagents shop at Cliffe Vale.
Happy days!!!
On a more unsavoury note, remember Pat Crerand spitting in Peter Dobing's face and only getting a talking to - not even a booking. I reckon that's the most despicable thing anyone could do to another player.
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