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Post by mumf14 on Feb 12, 2008 1:57:33 GMT
Well I suppose if they hadn't bombed Pearl Harbour at the start of the war the 400,000 might still be alive.
War is a dirty business....the Japanese now have the evidence to see the error of their ways...
The current re-emergence of their whaling fleet for scientific reasons yet one small reminder of their cruel sadistic past.
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Post by bostedclog on Feb 12, 2008 2:07:20 GMT
sadistic past.the bastards still do.but only for scientific research, ::)night dude
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 12, 2008 4:14:15 GMT
SECTION 1: GENERAL QUESTIONS CONCERNING BRITISH MUSLIMS
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Religious beliefs: Atheist
Which newspaper do you read most regularly? Sun
1.The British population is in the region of 60 million. Considering this fact, how many Muslims do you think currently reside in Britain? 2 million
2.In which British city do you believe the majority of Muslims in Britain reside? Leicester?
3.How many Muslim immigrants do you think enter Britain each year? 20,000
4.Do you think divorce is illegal for Muslims? No
5.Do you believe Britain is a multicultural society? Please explain whether you believe this is a positive or negative thing? Britain is multi-cultural and yes it is a positive thing
Please select the relevant answers for the next 2 questions and delete those which do not apply to your answer:
6.Where have you gained the majority of your knowledge regarding Muslims and the Islamic faith?
Education
Friends and family
7.How often, if at all, do you mix with Muslims (either socially or in an employment or work setting)?
Weekly
8.What in your opinion would be the best thing about being a Muslim in this country? Strong work ethic, very proud and very family orientated
9.What in your opinion would be the worst thing about being a Muslim in this country? Abuse from others and ‘stigma’ attached regarding terrorism
SECTION 2: YOUR GENERAL OPINIONS TOWARDS BRITISH MUSLIMS
Please select the relevant answers for the next question and delete those whcih do not apply to your answer.
1.Do you believe British Muslims are reported on differently by the media in comparison to other religious minority groups in this country? Select as many answers as you wish.
Yes - British Muslims receive greater coverage
Yes - British Muslims receive more negative coverage
2.Please rate the following statements from 1 to 7, with 1 being totally disagree and 7 being totally agree:
The Islamic faith is mainly unchanging, fixed or monolithic - 6
Muslims are well integrated into British society - 5
Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Pakistan, are repressive against women - 1
British Muslims are unfairly treated by the British government - 3
Islamic countries are unfairly treated by the British government - 3
British Muslims are unfairly portrayed by British newspapers - 5
The Islamic faith is unfairly portrayed by British newspapers - 5
Muslims are a peaceful section of British society - 1
Too many laws have been made to protect British Muslims - 4
The recent media hype concerning Islam and Muslims is unjustified - 5
SECTION 3: YOUR EMOTIONAL REACTIONS TO BRITISH MUSLIMSTo what extent do you experience each of the following emotions when you think about British Muslims? Please answer on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being not at all and 7 being very much.
Sympathy - 6
Anger - 2
Annoyance - 2
Fear - 2
Disgust - 2
Threatened - 2
Sadness - 5
Anxious -2
Irritation - 2
Tenderness - 4
Warmth - 4
1.In general, on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being very negative and 7 being very positive, what is your overall opinion of Muslims? 5
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 12, 2008 12:22:54 GMT
thanks for all the replys so far!!! very much appreciated. keep them coming. sparked a couple of interesting debates too.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Feb 12, 2008 12:40:26 GMT
SECTION 1: GENERAL QUESTIONS CONCERNING BRITISH MUSLIMS
Age: 24
Gender: male
Religious beliefs: atheist
Which newspaper do you read most regularly? guardian
1.The British population is in the region of 60 million. Considering this fact, how many Muslims do you think currently reside in Britain? 3.5 million
2.In which British city do you believe the majority of Muslims in Britain reside? Birmingham
3.How many Muslim immigrants do you think enter Britain each year? 200,000
4.Do you think divorce is illegal for Muslims? no
5.Do you believe Britain is a multicultural society? Please explain whether you believe this is a positive or negative thing? Yes, by definition there are multiple cultures, their integration is secondary to this and more indicative of positive or negativity. I believe it is positive in general, I enjoy living in London where integration is more apparent.
Please select the relevant answers for the next 2 questions and delete those which do not apply to your answer:
6.Where have you gained the majority of your knowledge regarding Muslims and the Islamic faith?
Friends and family
The media – please specify which media(s) Newspapers and televised news
7.How often, if at all, do you mix with Muslims (either socially or in an employment or work setting)?
Daily
8.What in your opinion would be the best thing about being a Muslim in this country?
Extended liberties in comparison to a lot of traditionally Muslim countries with the opportunity to practice traditions
9.What in your opinion would be the worst thing about being a Muslim in this country?
Being stereotyped as a religious and/or political extremist.
SECTION 2: YOUR GENERAL OPINIONS TOWARDS BRITISH MUSLIMS
Please select the relevant answers for the next question and delete those whcih do not apply to your answer.
1.Do you believe British Muslims are reported on differently by the media in comparison to other religious minority groups in this country? Select as many answers as you wish.
Yes - British Muslims receive greater coverage
2.Please rate the following statements from 1 to 7, with 1 being totally disagree and 7 being totally agree:
The Islamic faith is mainly unchanging, fixed or monolithic - 4
Muslims are well integrated into British society - 3
Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Pakistan, are repressive against women - 5
British Muslims are unfairly treated by the British government - 2
Islamic countries are unfairly treated by the British government - 4
British Muslims are unfairly portrayed by British newspapers - 6
The Islamic faith is unfairly portrayed by British newspapers - 4
Muslims are a peaceful section of British society - 6
Too many laws have been made to protect British Muslims - 2
The recent media hype concerning Islam and Muslims is unjustified - 6
SECTION 3: YOUR EMOTIONAL REACTIONS TO BRITISH MUSLIMSTo what extent do you experience each of the following emotions when you think about British Muslims? Please answer on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being not at all and 7 being very much.
Sympathy - 5
Anger - 1
Annoyance - 3
Fear - 2
Disgust - 1
Threatened - 2
Sadness - 2
Anxious - 2
Irritation - 4
Tenderness - 2
Warmth - 2
1.In general, on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being very negative and 7 being very positive, what is your overall opinion of Muslims?
4
Thank you for taking the time to complete this questionnaire
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Post by serpico on Feb 12, 2008 12:45:08 GMT
Serpico...."15 of the 19 hijackers from Saudi arabia". Perhaps they may have thought differently if Saddam had invaded Saudi too after his Invasion of Kuwait. Just imagine if the vast Oil fields of the middle east were now controlled by him or Iran. Just imagine if Iran had its own Nuclear weapons.. Why was Israel set up in the first place..? Who would you prefer as your world guardian angel... 1.Iraq. 2.Iran. 3.Saudi Arabia. 4. America. 5 Siria You do make some valid points but world peace and proseperity relies predominately on what path America takes... To interfere with that balance would inevitably have dire consequences for world stability and global security. America is the world's Policemen... Every country needs this. The middle east needs it more than most...they might not like it,but we have American bases over here.They call it their holy land...we call it East Anglia and Faslane. If you want America to be the world policeman then expect more 9/11's in the future, you cannot force our form of "democracy" through the barrel of a gun however well intended you are, we're fighting a band of pirates not states, Also this ridiculous notion that we and US want to spread "democracy" is absurd when you take into account we give billions in aid to a dictator in pakistan who came to power through a military coup and prop up the corrupt and brutal saudi regime, what we really want is weak and dependent tyrants who keep there populations down and who benefit us, thats why you see this demonization of Iran, they don't tow the line so they're in the cross hairs. Since 9/11 Bin Laden has had no greater ally than George Bush and Tony Blair, they've both done EXACTLY what he wanted them to do, Bin Laden LOVES our foreign policy because it's helped his recruitment go up 10 fold, our invasion and occupation of Iraq was a added bonus for him, i bet he couldn't stop laughing after " Operation Iraqi Liberation" was launched, for a starters Bin laden hated saddam (and visa versa)so he would have been happy for the US to rid him because Saddam would never have let Bin Laden and al qeada operate inside Iraq, there were no al qeada in Iraq pre invasion.oh yeh and by the way Bin laden would also love us to hit Iran aswell. The facts are that our interventionist foreign policy has unintended consequences and if we don't change course now and get out of these countries we will continue to have this problem of blowback. Interesting to not that on the eve of Iraq invasion of Kuwait that the US ambassador told saddam "the United States has no opinion on Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.", which was more or less a wink and a nod of approval. P.S Talking of the nuclear bomb in japan, did you know that the US sanctions on Iraq (another gripe of bin ladens) killed more than were killed in that bombing ? over 500 thousand children under the age of 5 died under those sanctions in Iraq, over a million people in total, is it any wonder they're angry at the west ? video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2257060252046251113&q=madeline+albright&total=40&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2add that to how many have died during this conflict, a recent survey suggest 1 million have died so far. wiredispatch.com/news/?id=26001thats over 2 million killed due to US action. Imagine if China invaded our country started building huge bases and as a consequence of that invasion 1 million British died, would you be pissed off ? |
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 12, 2008 13:25:59 GMT
serpico, have some karma for being the continued voice of sanity. And please keep your massive signature because it's all true.
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Post by serpico on Feb 12, 2008 13:43:42 GMT
serpico, have some karma for being the continued voice of sanity. And please keep your massive signature because it's all true. Thanks, Im just sick of patronizing idiot politicians come on TV and say that terrorists "attack us because they hate our freedom and prosperity",the same freedoms by the way they themselves have been hacking away at since 9/11, it's insulting to peoples intelligence, anyone who does a small amount of research knows why they attack us and it isn't because we are "free" or "hate our way of life", it's because of our dangerously flawed foreign policy, which imo does us more harm than good in the long run, a foreign policy which is creating terrorists faster than we can kill them. |
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Post by fatterthanparkin on Feb 12, 2008 14:16:14 GMT
f.a.o fatterthanparkin.how far do you want to go back name a century 17,18,19,20, or the 21 or in each of these centurys we have invaded exploited pillaged murdered enslaved and even armed and financed a lot of the terrorism which now exists and affects us all.So yes christianity has a lot to answer for  la révolution est pour que tous embrassent bosted Go back about ten centuries more to 711 onwards and you'll find consistent attempts by Muslims to invade Europe via Spain and through Constantinople which was proably the first one-sided invasion. Note I'm not counting the Persians invasions of Greece |
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Post by bostedclog on Feb 13, 2008 0:24:22 GMT
it all amounts to the same millions dead for what ??? Pogo on a Nazi, Spit upon a Jew Vicious mindless violence that offers nothing new Left Wing violence, Right Wing violence all seems much the same Bully boys out fighting, it's just the same old game Boring fucking politics that'll get us all shot Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot Keep your petty prejudice, I don't see the point ANARCHY AND FREEDOM IS WHAT I WANT  |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 13, 2008 18:07:06 GMT
it all amounts to the same millions dead for what ??? Pogo on a Nazi, Spit upon a Jew Vicious mindless violence that offers nothing new Left Wing violence, Right Wing violence all seems much the same Bully boys out fighting, it's just the same old game Boring fucking politics that'll get us all shot Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot Keep your petty prejudice, I don't see the point ANARCHY AND FREEDOM IS WHAT I WANT Used this hour's karma up but remind me on my good man! Was just scanning down the thread and nearly jizzed when I saw that.  |
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Post by Norfolkstokie in manchester on Feb 13, 2008 20:25:22 GMT
SECTION 1: GENERAL QUESTIONS CONCERNING BRITISH MUSLIMS
Age: 19
Gender: M
Religious beliefs: Christian
Which newspaper do you read most regularly? Guardian
1.The British population is in the region of 60 million. Considering this fact, how many Muslims do you think currently reside in Britain? 2 million
2.In which British city do you believe the majority of Muslims in Britain reside? Bradford
3.How many Muslim immigrants do you think enter Britain each year? 30,000
4.Do you think divorce is illegal for Muslims? No
5.Do you believe Britain is a multicultural society? Please explain whether you believe this is a positive or negative thing? Yes in parts, think its a positive thing- broadens horizons, people will meet more different and interesting people. Who wants a society of similar people?
Please select the relevant answers for the next 2 questions and delete those which do not apply to your answer:
6.Where have you gained the majority of your knowledge regarding Muslims and the Islamic faith?
Education
Friends and family
The media – please specify which media(s)- Guardian
Other - seeing what the Express says and then discounting it
7.How often, if at all, do you mix with Muslims (either socially or in an employment or work setting)?
Rarely- see some at uni
8.What in your opinion would be the best thing about being a Muslim in this country? Its probably safer than most Muslim countries
9.What in your opinion would be the worst thing about being a Muslim in this country? seeing such xenophobic press and politicians always keen to appease it
SECTION 2: YOUR GENERAL OPINIONS TOWARDS BRITISH MUSLIMS
Please select the relevant answers for the next question and delete those whcih do not apply to your answer.
1.Do you believe British Muslims are reported on differently by the media in comparison to other religious minority groups in this country? Select as many answers as you wish.
No - they receive the same coverage
Yes - British Muslims receive more negative coverage
2.Please rate the following statements from 1 to 7, with 1 being totally disagree and 7 being totally agree:
The Islamic faith is mainly unchanging, fixed or monolithic - 2
Muslims are well integrated into British society - 5
Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Pakistan, are repressive against women - 6
British Muslims are unfairly treated by the British government - 3
Islamic countries are unfairly treated by the British government - 5
British Muslims are unfairly portrayed by British newspapers - 6 (most)
The Islamic faith is unfairly portrayed by British newspapers - 6
Muslims are a peaceful section of British society - 4
Too many laws have been made to protect British Muslims - 2
The recent media hype concerning Islam and Muslims is unjustified -
2
SECTION 3: YOUR EMOTIONAL REACTIONS TO BRITISH MUSLIMSTo what extent do you experience each of the following emotions when you think about British Muslims? Please answer on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being not at all and 7 being very much.
Sympathy - 6
Anger - 2
Annoyance - 1
Fear - 1
Disgust - 1
Threatened - 2
Sadness - 3
Anxious - 1
Irritation - 1
Tenderness - 3
Warmth - 4
1.In general, on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being very negative and 7 being very positive, what is your overall opinion of Muslims?
5- impossible to judge an entire group of people. Everyones different and you have to try and think the best of people (i think so anyway)
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Post by wembleyofthenorth on Feb 14, 2008 11:44:33 GMT
What a sordid lefty mutual tug fest, at least you'll all grow out of it when you graduate.
As you clearly know jack shit about Islam or traveled in Muslim countries. except for what you read in your socialist pamphlets.
quotes from abroad this week "is it true you get money when you dont work in england" within the fortnight i will be falsely befriended by someone who wants to use me as a sponsor for a visa or be given a boring chat on why i need to convert to islam and the evils of the west and jews..perhaps by the same person.
Hypocrites.
I want to give them a hug or let them join my equal participation kibutz in fegg hayes.
you people are the problem with england not radical islam.
Vive le stupidity.
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 14, 2008 13:22:18 GMT
wembley, speaking as one of the lefty mutuals, I'm not a student (although I might be again soon and it's a good thing to be) and I've done most of the things you've just told me I haven't done, including travelling in Muslim countries. I'm a socialist and proud of it, because everything I've learned in my life's taught me to BELIEVE IN PEOPLE, not labels or religions or skin colours or money or power. I'm not naive, I've been out there and done it and I really fucking hate all this pathetic, frightened bigotry. (And if it wasn't so tainted by being an Israeli idea, a kibbutz would be a bloody good idea in Fegg Hayes actually.)
Can you see the steam coming out of my av's ears??
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Post by wembleyofthenorth on Feb 14, 2008 15:18:40 GMT
was generalising a little, and been to university so not knocking students. "if it wasn't so tainted by being an Israeli idea" do you not believe in the people of Israel or are they all bigots? only joking I think the bigotry is partly a byproduct of the lefty mafia jumping on sensible discussion of any immigration/religious issues as bieng racist or somehow are own fault as individuals due to our governments actions hundreds of years ago or in modern day Iraq. which is counterproductive. Solves nothing. But hey it allows people to show how well read they are.  |
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 14, 2008 15:21:24 GMT
wembley,
please complete my questionnaire. it would be interesting to hear your responces.
i have spent several months living with muslims in a muslim country. i have travelled through many. i know a lot more than the average joe from england does about the Islamic religion and Muslim practises.
i agree with one thing you said - the problem with england is not radical islam. the problem with england is our foreign policy from our right wing government.
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Post by wembleyofthenorth on Feb 14, 2008 15:29:15 GMT
think i added a bit extra before i saw your reply.
going out now to Al-pub now so will get it done for you tomorrow.
inshallah. ;D
good luck with the report.
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 14, 2008 15:36:06 GMT
cheers!
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 14, 2008 15:51:10 GMT
wembley, have some karma for being so damn reasonable and I'll see you in the Fegg Hayes kibbutz oggy, when you've got enough questionnaires in will you be giving out the right answers to the first few questions please? (sir) |
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Post by serpico on Feb 14, 2008 15:59:32 GMT
Would just like to point out Im not a "lefty", Im a libertarian.
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 14, 2008 16:12:00 GMT
yeh sure sal. it will probably be in the next couple of days. facebook, despite all its faults, is a fantastic tool for issuing questionnaires for social research!
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Post by bostedclog on Feb 14, 2008 22:38:34 GMT
and im not a lefty or a righty im just me sen.if you were to label me i suppose i agree with most anarchist theories.oggy im interested too in the results cheers  |
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Post by salopstick on Feb 14, 2008 23:06:25 GMT
HAVE DONE THIS WITH OUT READING THE WHOLE THREAD
SECTION 1: GENERAL QUESTIONS CONCERNING BRITISH MUSLIMS
Age: 33
Gender: MALE
Religious beliefs: CoE
Which newspaper do you read most regularly? THE SUN
1. 5 MILLION
2. LONDON
3. 250,000
4. NO FROWNED UPON BUT NOT ILLEGAL
5. IT IS MULTICULTURAL HOWEVER IT IS ONLY A GOOD THING IF THE DIFFERENT CULTURES INTERACT THEY OBVIOUSLY DONT
6. TOOK AN INTEREST IN MY YOUTH WHEN MY BEST FRIEND CONVERTED, NOT FOR ME. BY INTEREST I MEAN JUST EDUCATION
7. NEVER, NOT BY CHOICE JUST COINCIDENCE
8. FREEDOM AS OPPOSED TO IRAQ, AFGHAN ETC
9. OTHER PEOPLES PERCEPTIONS OF ISLAM?
SECTION 2: YOUR GENERAL OPINIONS TOWARDS BRITISH MUSLIMS
1. Yes - British Muslims receive greater coverage
Yes - British Muslims receive more positive coverage
Yes - British Muslims receive more negative coverage
2.Please rate the following statements from 1 to 7, with 1 being totally disagree and 7 being totally agree:
7. The Islamic faith is mainly unchanging, fixed or monolithic -
5. Muslims are well integrated into British society -
6. Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Pakistan, are repressive against women -
3. British Muslims are unfairly treated by the British government -
3. Islamic countries are unfairly treated by the British government -
4. British Muslims are unfairly portrayed by British newspapers -
4. The Islamic faith is unfairly portrayed by British newspapers -
3. Muslims are a peaceful section of British society -
DONT KNOW - Too many laws have been made to protect British Muslims -
5. The recent media hype concerning Islam and Muslims is unjustified -
SECTION 3: YOUR EMOTIONAL REACTIONS TO BRITISH MUSLIMSTo what extent do you experience each of the following emotions when you think about British Muslims? Please answer on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being not at all and 7 being very much.
Sympathy -
1. Anger -
1. Annoyance -
1. Fear -
1. Disgust -
1. Threatened -
1. Sadness -
1. Anxious -
1. Irritation -
1. Tenderness -
1. Warmth -
1.In general, on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being very negative and 7 being very positive, what is your overall opinion of Muslims? 5
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Feb 15, 2008 21:10:28 GMT
SECTION 1: GENERAL QUESTIONS CONCERNING BRITISH MUSLIMS
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Religious beliefs: Athiest/humanist.
Which newspaper do you read most regularly? Guardian/Observer.
1.The British population is in the region of 60 million. Considering this fact, how many Muslims do you think currently reside in Britain? 1.5 million.
2.In which British city do you believe the majority of Muslims in Britain reside? Birmingham.
3.How many Muslim immigrants do you think enter Britain each year? 10,000.
4.Do you think divorce is illegal for Muslims? No.
5.Do you believe Britain is a multicultural society? Please explain whether you believe this is a positive or negative thing? Partially, as I understand multiculturalism. A positive thing, where/when it works properly.
Please select the relevant answers for the next 2 questions and delete those which do not apply to your answer:
6.Where have you gained the majority of your knowledge regarding Muslims and the Islamic faith?
Books
Education
Friends and family
The media – please specify which media(s) Newspapers.
Other - please specify
7.How often, if at all, do you mix with Muslims (either socially or in an employment or work setting)?
Daily
Weekly
Monthly
Less than monthly
Never
8.What in your opinion would be the best thing about being a Muslim in this country? A strong sense of own religious & cultural identity.
9.What in your opinion would be the worst thing about being a Muslim in this country? Living with the constraints that any religion puts on an individual's life.
SECTION 2: YOUR GENERAL OPINIONS TOWARDS BRITISH MUSLIMS
Please select the relevant answers for the next question and delete those whcih do not apply to your answer.
1.Do you believe British Muslims are reported on differently by the media in comparison to other religious minority groups in this country? Select as many answers as you wish.
No - they receive the same coverage
Yes - British Muslims receive greater coverage
Yes - British Muslims receive less coverage
Yes - British Muslims receive more positive coverage
Yes - British Muslims receive more negative coverage
Other - please specify
2.Please rate the following statements from 1 to 7, with 1 being totally disagree and 7 being totally agree:
The Islamic faith is mainly unchanging, fixed or monolithic - 5 (but would give the same answer for any organised religion).
Muslims are well integrated into British society - 4
Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Pakistan, are repressive against women - 6
British Muslims are unfairly treated by the British government - 5
Islamic countries are unfairly treated by the British government - Anything from 1 - 7; Depends on the country.
British Muslims are unfairly portrayed by British newspapers - 6
The Islamic faith is unfairly portrayed by British newspapers - Don't know
Muslims are a peaceful section of British society - 5
Too many laws have been made to protect British Muslims - 5 (but would be the same answer for other religions).
The recent media hype concerning Islam and Muslims is unjustified - 5
SECTION 3: YOUR EMOTIONAL REACTIONS TO BRITISH MUSLIMSTo what extent do you experience each of the following emotions when you think about British Muslims? Please answer on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being not at all and 7 being very much.
Sympathy - 5
Anger - 5
Annoyance - 3
Fear - 2
Disgust - 4
Threatened - 1
Sadness - 2
Anxious - 2
Irritation - 6 (again, same answer for any religion).
Tenderness - 2
Warmth - 2
1.In general, on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being very negative and 7 being very positive, what is your overall opinion of Muslims? 4
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