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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 8, 2011 22:47:40 GMT
Hope someone starts singing delilah  Better than the boring bastards sittin on the panel ramblin on about the euro..... |
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Post by ST5-POTTER on Dec 8, 2011 22:58:16 GMT
First question should be
Why does pulis play Huth at right back? ;D
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 8, 2011 23:01:48 GMT
.........followed by
why are there no chayse un bacon oatcakes at the brit????
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 23:05:45 GMT
Has anybody from Stoke on Trent been on the programme yet?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 23:07:15 GMT
Has anybody from Stoke on Trent been on the programme yet? Yeah, the bloke with the missing teeth who mentioned that the Government only have London's interest at heart and not North Staffs, we have no industry left etc etc |
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Post by pretzel on Dec 8, 2011 23:08:07 GMT
Better than the boring bastards sittin on the panel ramblin on about the euro..... Has anybody said who they fancy in the next round then? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 23:08:25 GMT
Has anybody from Stoke on Trent been on the programme yet? Yeah, the bloke with the missing teeth who mentioned that the Government only have London's interest at heart and not North Staffs, we have no industry left etc etc Ok mate must have missed him  |
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Post by stillgame4it on Dec 8, 2011 23:11:23 GMT
and some trainee teacher with big ears, moaning about how much the Olympics will cost
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Post by stillgame4it on Dec 8, 2011 23:17:57 GMT
Bloody hell, have you seen that minger who just been on saying she is an "ambassador" at the Olympics, meeting & greeting visitors from the other nations.
I would be straight back on the plane is she came running towards me with open arms....!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 23:20:46 GMT
Bloody hell, have you seen that minger who just been on saying she is an "ambassador" at the Olympics, meeting & greeting visitors from the other nations. I would be straight back on the plane is she came running towards me with open arms....! Hope she washes her fookin hair before she greats those foreign dignitaries |
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Post by stillgame4it on Dec 8, 2011 23:31:28 GMT
Hello - the bird in the orange top on about young people seeking work was better.
She could "meet & greet" me if she wants..........
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 8, 2011 23:34:27 GMT
about the only one whos worth a vend....
theres some rayte rough munters in the crowd
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 8, 2011 23:46:20 GMT
That Tristram fella's a bit of a knob. The Asian bloke from the New Statesman spoke more sense than the rest of the panel put together.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 23:52:11 GMT
Well....After having watched tonights debate from the Kings Hall it only reaffirmed in my mind the dire plight of this once proud manufacturing City and what it has become....The Forgotten City.
As for the local MP Tristram Hunt....Didn't impress , didn't seem too arsed , wasn't local , wasn't vocal , wasn't passionate and wasn't what the Labour Party should stand for. In short a damp squib.
It would appear that any young person with any sense would be best served by moving out of the area altogether. The job opportunities are practically nil , and the wages on offer lower than practically anywhere in the country.
The sad thing is , that 20 years from now , someone like me will be repeating exactly what I've just written. Stoke on Trent is a boil on the arse compared to 95% of other more prosperous ambitious areas. It's just like Liverpool was 25 years ago until major investment was sanctioned by central government to regenerate vast swathes of the City , and the rest is History as they say...
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Post by mylovelymayomammy on Dec 8, 2011 23:57:30 GMT
Anyone remember Tristran from 'George and Mildred' ?
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 9, 2011 0:15:09 GMT
That Tristram fella's a bit of a knob. The Asian bloke from the New Statesman spoke more sense than the rest of the panel put together. You mean 'dashing historian' Tristram Hunt, a man dumped in a Labour safe seat purely so he could toe the party line in Parliament in an intelligent, scholarly sounding way? Surely not. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2011 0:17:48 GMT
That Tristram fella's a bit of a knob. The Asian bloke from the New Statesman spoke more sense than the rest of the panel put together. You mean 'dashing historian' Tristram Hunt, a man dumped in a Labour safe seat purely so he could toe the party line in Parliament in an intelligent, scholarly sounding way? Surely not. So I was right then...? I've never heard of or seen him before ... ...and I'm not sure I would want to again. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 9, 2011 0:20:42 GMT
You mean 'dashing historian' Tristram Hunt, a man dumped in a Labour safe seat purely so he could toe the party line in Parliament in an intelligent, scholarly sounding way? Surely not. So I was right then...? I've never heard of or seen him before ... ...and I'm not sure I would want to again. I've not read any of his literature on the Civil War, which is his speciality, but I've heard that it's uninspired and unoriginal. However, he's a well educated sort who makes Labour look good when he stands up in parliament and says whatever the leader wants him to, so he got stuck in Stoke Central. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2011 0:26:12 GMT
''Stuck in the past.....'' Perfect...for us..! ;D |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 9, 2011 11:55:04 GMT
Well....After having watched tonights debate from the Kings Hall it only reaffirmed in my mind the dire plight of this once proud manufacturing City and what it has become....The Forgotten City. As for the local MP Tristram Hunt....Didn't impress , didn't seem too arsed , wasn't local , wasn't vocal , wasn't passionate and wasn't what the Labour Party should stand for. In short a damp squib. It would appear that any young person with any sense would be best served by moving out of the area altogether. The job opportunities are practically nil , and the wages on offer lower than practically anywhere in the country. The sad thing is , that 20 years from now , someone like me will be repeating exactly what I've just written. Stoke on Trent is a boil on the arse compared to 95% of other more prosperous ambitious areas. It's just like Liverpool was 25 years ago until major investment was sanctioned by central government to regenerate vast swathes of the City , and the rest is History as they say... mumf, why though what will it take for someone to put somthing into the area alongside the likes of liverpool imo stoke on trent is in a decent area in the country central, good rail and road links, near to brum, manc on the m6 and close enough to the likes of derby, notts and leices further east. and it has a ready work force due to losing its industries something must be holding it back! is it the council, local mp or just the local population. from the debates on here in the past it seems that the council havent done enough even though i dont live there so dont really know i am interested because in a couple of years it is close enough to market drayton that i might end up working there. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 9, 2011 14:00:03 GMT
Well....After having watched tonights debate from the Kings Hall it only reaffirmed in my mind the dire plight of this once proud manufacturing City and what it has become....The Forgotten City. As for the local MP Tristram Hunt....Didn't impress , didn't seem too arsed , wasn't local , wasn't vocal , wasn't passionate and wasn't what the Labour Party should stand for. In short a damp squib. It would appear that any young person with any sense would be best served by moving out of the area altogether. The job opportunities are practically nil , and the wages on offer lower than practically anywhere in the country. The sad thing is , that 20 years from now , someone like me will be repeating exactly what I've just written. Stoke on Trent is a boil on the arse compared to 95% of other more prosperous ambitious areas. It's just like Liverpool was 25 years ago until major investment was sanctioned by central government to regenerate vast swathes of the City , and the rest is History as they say... mumf, why though what will it take for someone to put somthing into the area alongside the likes of liverpool imo stoke on trent is in a decent area in the country central, good rail and road links, near to brum, manc on the m6 and close enough to the likes of derby, notts and leices further east. and it has a ready work force due to losing its industries something must be holding it back! is it the council, local mp or just the local population. from the debates on here in the past it seems that the council havent done enough even though i dont live there so dont really know i am interested because in a couple of years it is close enough to market drayton that i might end up working there. This is just my opinion as someone who has grown up in and around Stoke on Trent from the mid 80's - It was already pretty much going downhill when I was born so i've never seen it a sa booming city but more a lot of desolation and I think it's fair to say deprivation as other cities around the county react to closures, we've stood still and not moved on. There is a hell of a lot of wasteland in and around Stoke on Trent and for me this should be an opportuntiy for others to invest in the city. I don't know how much of this the ocuncil owns and how much is private but the Council should be doing all they can to get people to invest in the citry and utilise the very skilled but at the same time very low paid workforce. There are masses of opportunities, as you point Salop, considering our transport links, geographical location and low cost of living. We should be supporting new businesses and the council cutting on losses on this land and getting out to businesses so they can build new sites. In the short term this will be costly but you owuld expect over time, if we are successful in encourgaing companies to come here, that the ocuncil will thne reap the rewards form this increased business. First things first though let's tidy the place up. It's a right shithole in some places, it's dirty, outdated and half the buildings that are standing are empty with smashed windows. Let's tidy these up, lets start making an effort with our city and getting some pride back. And finally let's get some local people represent is parliament as opposed to some stupid posh twit who actually doesn't give a crap about Stoke only his own political career. I don't even think he's moved up here has he? Tristan Hunt, more like Tristan Cu....... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2011 14:36:08 GMT
I'll tell you what's needed...It needs ACTION.
Action by all the local MPs to seek a meeting with the business secretary to ask for special consideration be given for major investment from both home and abroad.
Action by the City Council to attend the meeting and facilitate any measures deemed necessary regarding the above.
It needs an online petition by all those Potteries people sick of social deprivation and lack of employment opportunities . It needs someone with the guts and balls to start the ball rolling using the local and national media to highlight the sad state of affairs.
It needs constant pressure and regular meetings by ALL THE LOCAL COUNCILLORS to ensure the discussions and protests aren't just brushed under the carpet. It needs the political will from all local political representatives to force our plight into the political spotlight.
This area has suffered since the mid 1970's , but let me tell you this....IT'S WORSE NOW THAN AT ANYTIME IN LIVING MEMORY.
It's all well and good tidying the place up and knocking old houses down , but all that has been done before in the 1970's and it certainly doesn't bring long term growth and prosperity.
It doesn't bring jobs , it doesn't cut crime figures , it doesn't ease social and ethnic issues.
Apathy is rife , ''I'm alright Jack'' is the message that seems to be the common denominator in all this. Can you see any well heeled militant from the Westlands stepping forward for the cause.? Can you see a respected Judge or Barrister offering his services free .?
I'm sure theres plenty of willing souls in Bentilee ,Chell Heath , Longton & Fenton who would be willing to step forward but it needs a sustained coherent strategy by determined individuals with the full backing of all the local agencies , council, Mp's and anyone else with a committed interest.
It just needs that someone...a local person...(someone who has applied for several hundred jobs and has a degree )..'Someone' who can create that 'spark' . Someone who can provide the inspiratrion for others to take strength from and coerce others into action.
Don't hold your breath , that's why I fucked off and i'm glad I did.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 9, 2011 16:22:36 GMT
I'll tell you what's needed...It needs ACTION. Action by all the local MPs to seek a meeting with the business secretary to ask for special consideration be given for major investment from both home and abroad. Action by the City Council to attend the meeting and facilitate any measures deemed necessary regarding the above. It needs an online petition by all those Potteries people sick of social deprivation and lack of employment opportunities . It needs someone with the guts and balls to start the ball rolling using the local and national media to highlight the sad state of affairs. It needs constant pressure and regular meetings by ALL THE LOCAL COUNCILLORS to ensure the discussions and protests aren't just brushed under the carpet. It needs the political will from all local political representatives to force our plight into the political spotlight. This area has suffered since the mid 1970's , but let me tell you this....IT'S WORSE NOW THAN AT ANYTIME IN LIVING MEMORY. It's all well and good tidying the place up and knocking old houses down , but all that has been done before in the 1970's and it certainly doesn't bring long term growth and prosperity. It doesn't bring jobs , it doesn't cut crime figures , it doesn't ease social and ethnic issues. Apathy is rife , ''I'm alright Jack'' is the message that seems to be the common denominator in all this. Can you see any well heeled militant from the Westlands stepping forward for the cause.? Can you see a respected Judge or Barrister offering his services free .? I'm sure theres plenty of willing souls in Bentilee ,Chell Heath , Longton & Fenton who would be willing to step forward but it needs a sustained coherent strategy by determined individuals with the full backing of all the local agencies , council, Mp's and anyone else with a committed interest. It just needs that someone...a local person...(someone who has applied for several hundred jobs and has a degree )..'Someone' who can create that 'spark' . Someone who can provide the inspiratrion for others to take strength from and coerce others into action. Don't hold your breath , that's why I fucked off and i'm glad I did. do you think if the people of stoke on trent changed their political views for a couple of terms you might see some change if it hasnt improved under mainly labour mp's and councils surely its a risk worth taking to vote blue |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2011 17:15:41 GMT
Playing party politics in Stoke on Trent is irrelevant. It is a very traditional working class area and will remain so. Capital gains tax , Inheritance Tax and other similar concerns are not high on the agenda for the average family in Stoke On Trent. They are the preserve of those more privileged with well paid long term jobs and opportunities.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 9, 2011 17:19:51 GMT
Playing party politics in Stoke on Trent is irrelevant. It is a very traditional working class area and will remain so. Capital gains tax , Inheritance Tax and other similar concerns are not high on the agenda for the average family in Stoke On Trent. They are the preserve of those more privileged with well paid long term jobs and opportunities. all im saying if the working class politicians dont help you, the upper class ones might oh hang on |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2011 17:24:00 GMT
Well , there are out a few Tory MP's in the vicinity of Stoke-On -Trent , but so far they have been as committed to the cause as CAMERON is to full European unification and the opening up of all financial markets .
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Post by elystokie on Dec 9, 2011 18:12:27 GMT
I'll tell you what's needed...It needs ACTION. Action by all the local MPs to seek a meeting with the business secretary to ask for special consideration be given for major investment from both home and abroad. Action by the City Council to attend the meeting and facilitate any measures deemed necessary regarding the above. It needs an online petition by all those Potteries people sick of social deprivation and lack of employment opportunities . It needs someone with the guts and balls to start the ball rolling using the local and national media to highlight the sad state of affairs. It needs constant pressure and regular meetings by ALL THE LOCAL COUNCILLORS to ensure the discussions and protests aren't just brushed under the carpet. It needs the political will from all local political representatives to force our plight into the political spotlight. This area has suffered since the mid 1970's , but let me tell you this....IT'S WORSE NOW THAN AT ANYTIME IN LIVING MEMORY. It's all well and good tidying the place up and knocking old houses down , but all that has been done before in the 1970's and it certainly doesn't bring long term growth and prosperity. It doesn't bring jobs , it doesn't cut crime figures , it doesn't ease social and ethnic issues. Apathy is rife , ''I'm alright Jack'' is the message that seems to be the common denominator in all this. Can you see any well heeled militant from the Westlands stepping forward for the cause.? Can you see a respected Judge or Barrister offering his services free .? I'm sure theres plenty of willing souls in Bentilee ,Chell Heath , Longton & Fenton who would be willing to step forward but it needs a sustained coherent strategy by determined individuals with the full backing of all the local agencies , council, Mp's and anyone else with a committed interest. It just needs that someone...a local person...(someone who has applied for several hundred jobs and has a degree )..'Someone' who can create that 'spark' . Someone who can provide the inspiratrion for others to take strength from and coerce others into action. Don't hold your breath , that's why I fucked off and i'm glad I did. You had sfance in mind when you wrote all that ddidn't you mumf? Go on, admit it  |
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Post by mistersausage on Dec 9, 2011 19:00:12 GMT
I'll tell you what's needed...It needs ACTION. Action by all the local MPs to seek a meeting with the business secretary to ask for special consideration be given for major investment from both home and abroad. Action by the City Council to attend the meeting and facilitate any measures deemed necessary regarding the above. It needs an online petition by all those Potteries people sick of social deprivation and lack of employment opportunities . It needs someone with the guts and balls to start the ball rolling using the local and national media to highlight the sad state of affairs. It needs constant pressure and regular meetings by ALL THE LOCAL COUNCILLORS to ensure the discussions and protests aren't just brushed under the carpet. It needs the political will from all local political representatives to force our plight into the political spotlight. This area has suffered since the mid 1970's , but let me tell you this....IT'S WORSE NOW THAN AT ANYTIME IN LIVING MEMORY. It's all well and good tidying the place up and knocking old houses down , but all that has been done before in the 1970's and it certainly doesn't bring long term growth and prosperity. It doesn't bring jobs , it doesn't cut crime figures , it doesn't ease social and ethnic issues. Apathy is rife , ''I'm alright Jack'' is the message that seems to be the common denominator in all this. Can you see any well heeled militant from the Westlands stepping forward for the cause.? Can you see a respected Judge or Barrister offering his services free .? I'm sure theres plenty of willing souls in Bentilee ,Chell Heath , Longton & Fenton who would be willing to step forward but it needs a sustained coherent strategy by determined individuals with the full backing of all the local agencies , council, Mp's and anyone else with a committed interest. It just needs that someone...a local person...(someone who has applied for several hundred jobs and has a degree )..'Someone' who can create that 'spark' . Someone who can provide the inspiratrion for others to take strength from and coerce others into action. Don't hold your breath , that's why I fucked off and i'm glad I did. do you think if the people of stoke on trent changed their political views for a couple of terms you might see some change if it hasnt improved under mainly labour mp's and councils surely its a risk worth taking to vote blue[/color] Comedy gold as usual from the squire of Market Drayton ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 9, 2011 19:05:22 GMT
do you think if the people of stoke on trent changed their political views for a couple of terms you might see some change if it hasnt improved under mainly labour mp's and councils surely its a risk worth taking to vote blue[/color] Comedy gold as usual from the squire of Market Drayton ;D ;D ;D[/quote]so rather than take a gamble on change you keep voting for the same shower maybe that is why there has been no change |
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Post by Bagwash on Dec 11, 2011 0:58:51 GMT
Has anybody from Stoke on Trent been on the programme yet? Yeah, the bloke with the missing teeth who mentioned that the Government only have London's interest at heart and not North Staffs, we have no industry left etc etc That bloke is my best mate who I go the match with and he has been a season ticket holder since 1980 and a Stokie all his life. What he does not know about politics is'nt worth knowing. He posts on here regularly. |
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