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Post by j3st3r on Dec 8, 2011 12:21:30 GMT
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 8, 2011 12:23:15 GMT
Playing him at right back is pretty bad but nothing will ever make me laugh as much as Richie Barker deploying Paul Dyson in midfield!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by lordb on Dec 8, 2011 12:27:59 GMT
Playing him at right back is pretty bad but nothing will ever make me laugh as much as Richie Barker deploying Paul Dyson in midfield!!!!!!!!!!!! I have no memory of that what a horrific sight that must have been anway if Woody plays well then thats good news isnt it? |
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Post by stoneroses on Dec 8, 2011 12:42:03 GMT
sounds like a top bloke, and sounds as mift as us as why he carnt get consistent form. I still maintain though IF he can get to his best we have one of the best defenders around on our hands
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Post by tqstokie on Dec 8, 2011 13:05:56 GMT
IMHO we are wasting our time with Woodgate and he is keeping younger, quicker and stronger players on the bench. Shotton, Wilkinson and the like need to be playing. Woodgate sadly has had his day.
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 8, 2011 13:11:47 GMT
IMHO we are wasting our time with Woodgate and he is keeping younger, quicker and stronger players on the bench. Shotton, Wilkinson and the like need to be playing. Woodgate sadly has had his day. you may be right, but he is a great pro to have around the club and an inspiration to younger players. he has been injured for a great deal of his career, but doesn't go around beating people up, moaning or sitting there not working, just happy to pick up his wages. he makes the likes of tevez, wilshere, gerrard etc look awful and is a good example to a lot of our young players. Comes across as a nice guy too so is great to have around. Plus, if he does find his form he will be our best player. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 13:16:01 GMT
IMHO we are wasting our time with Woodgate and he is keeping younger, quicker and stronger players on the bench. Shotton, Wilkinson and the like need to be playing. Woodgate sadly has had his day. you may be right, but he is a great pro to have around the club and an inspiration to younger players. he has been injured for a great deal of his career, b ut doesn't go around beating people up, moaning or sitting there not working, just happy to pick up his wages. he makes the likes of tevez, wilshere, gerrard etc look awful and is a good example to a lot of our young players. Comes across as a nice guy too so is great to have around. Plus, if he does find his form he will be our best player. Erm, not these days maybe  |
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Post by burberrybassist on Dec 8, 2011 13:17:31 GMT
IMHO we are wasting our time with Woodgate and he is keeping younger, quicker and stronger players on the bench. Shotton, Wilkinson and the like need to be playing. Woodgate sadly has had his day. you may be right, but he is a great pro to have around the club and an inspiration to younger players. he has been injured for a great deal of his career, but doesn't go around beating people up, moaning or sitting there not working, just happy to pick up his wages. he makes the likes of tevez, wilshere, gerrard etc look awful and is a good example to a lot of our young players. Comes across as a nice guy too so is great to have around. Plus, if he does find his form he will be our best player. Well, wouldnt say he's never gone round beating people up, but apart from that you're spot on, a great bloke to have round the dressing room. Even TP can learn a lot from him about Europe etc. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 8, 2011 13:19:58 GMT
IMHO we are wasting our time with Woodgate and he is keeping younger, quicker and stronger players on the bench. Shotton, Wilkinson and the like need to be playing. Woodgate sadly has had his day. ^This.^ We look a better side with Huth back at centre back, we instantly looked a better side the moment Wilko came on at Everton. Can you seriously imagine Woodgate up against Bale on Sunday? Woodgate is going to be even worse than Huth at supporting Pennant and if Higgy's on the bench (to cover left back), then I really don't see how we can afford to have Woodgate taking up a place on the bench if Upson is already there. If he was 23 or 24 recovering from numerous long term injuries than maybe I could understand it but even then, it wouldn't be easy, however at the age he is now, well I just don't get it at all. |
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Post by burberrybassist on Dec 8, 2011 13:33:07 GMT
I suppose this was all part of the gamble TP took by signing him (albeit a low risk gamble), there was always a chance that he'd never get his form and skill back, at the moment he is personally my 4th choice CB behind Shawcross, Huth and Upson. If he does get some sort of form back though, and plays the way he did at the start of the season, then he'd fast become one of our best CB's, and although I wouldnt want TP disrupting the make up of the team again by swapping and changing every week, he'd be a great addition to our Europa squad for the tricky knock out stages.
Definitely agree that I don't want to see him at RB though at the expense of the likes of Shotton and Wilkinson.
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Post by mar1386 on Dec 8, 2011 13:48:52 GMT
Maybe Woodgate's signing was seen as a way of increasing our chances of signing Peter Crouch |
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Post by dexter97 on Dec 8, 2011 14:00:51 GMT
Maybe Woodgate's signing was seen as a way of increasing our chances of signing Peter Crouch I doubt that it was intended specifically to lure Crouchy, but there's no doubt that TP sees having a few "names" in the squad as increasing our appeal to potential signings. |
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Post by mrpickles on Dec 8, 2011 14:01:59 GMT
Signing him was a gamble worth taking. Breaking up a successful partnership and sticking him straight in the first certainly wasn't. Thankfully, it looks like Huth and Shawcross are back together for the long haul.
For what it's worth, i don't see pulis playing woodgate at right back for very long either, so i aren't too worried about him becoming a fixture there. Let's not forget that there were doubts over wilko's fitness before the game and that he did replace woody about 5 mins into the 2nd half. What does worry me slightly is that he actually see's (or saw) him as an option at full back in the first place.
I'd like to think that he can regain the type of form he showed in the game against chelsea and when called upon we can rely on him (like upson).
Are we able to swap the europa squad around after the group stage is done? If so, i wouldn't be suprised to see us find a place for woody. He'd probably be a bit more suited to playing slower paced continental teams at this stage of his career too.
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Post by matisfaction on Dec 8, 2011 14:36:48 GMT
Maybe Woodgate's signing was seen as a way of increasing our chances of signing Peter Crouch I doubt that it was intended specifically to lure Crouchy, but there's no doubt that TP sees having a few "names" in the squad as increasing our appeal to potential signings. Apparently he did have a big hand in Crouch and Palacios coming here, I don't think Woodgate has been that bad, I just think that for a guy who hasn't played a lot of football for three years it's probably not the best idea to have him playing in consecutive string of Premiership games. His good start to the season went against him in a way as he was kind of thrown in the deep end after that and suffered. |
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Post by Pricey on Dec 8, 2011 15:54:32 GMT
There's no way he's going to get into any decent kind of form if he keeps picking up these little injuries. The whole point of form is that it is built up over a period of time, not over the odd couple of games here and there.
I was amazed Woodgate started the season as strongly as he did considering his complete lack of top-level football in the last few years but since then he's been in and out of the team and in my opinion will never get into form playing like that.
Add him to the Europa League squad where the pace is slower and see how he does there. Hopefully we'll get a relatively easy draw in the last 32 and he can work himself in.
I just hope it isn't a condition of his contract that if he's "fit" he plays in the league, because it pretty much seems that way at the moment.
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Post by Zero on Dec 8, 2011 17:09:08 GMT
Good luck to him, then. The more defenders we have playing well, the better we'll do through the season.
Woodgate's a player who's had a potentially very successful career blighted by injuries, so if he can recover he'll have quite a lot to prove, and if he takes that as a motivation he could still have some success here; he hadn't looked bad at all in the first few matches he played here, and not against negligible opposition, so I don't think he'd have to jump any massive hurdles on the way.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 8, 2011 17:33:02 GMT
lets just hope he isnt at CB on Sunday,because that will mean 1 of 2 things. Huth at right back, or Huth dropped which would inevitably have disastrous consequences.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 8, 2011 23:39:43 GMT
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Post by wickerman on Dec 9, 2011 10:00:41 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 9, 2011 12:27:22 GMT
Good luck to him, then. The more defenders we have playing well, the better we'll do through the season. Woodgate's a player who's had a potentially very successful career blighted by injuries, so if he can recover he'll have quite a lot to prove, and if he takes that as a motivation he could still have some success here; he hadn't looked bad at all in the first few matches he played here, and not against negligible opposition, so I don't think he'd have to jump any massive hurdles on the way. I agree with this |
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