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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2011 1:21:47 GMT
Who would attract the biggest fee....and how much..?
As Usual I'll start...
Huth £ 12 Million
Shawxross £ 11 million.
Walters £9 million.
Begovic £8 Million.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 7, 2011 1:36:14 GMT
(As much as we rate him) I can't think of any club who would offer 9 million for Walters mumf -who were you thinking of?
I'd say the other three valuations are in the right sort of ball park, although we would struggle to replace them with better for the money, so personally I wouldn't sell.
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Post by jbstokie on Dec 7, 2011 1:36:20 GMT
To us he's invaluable but I think we'd only get £5-6m for Walters.
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Post by TheBra1n on Dec 7, 2011 1:40:47 GMT
them values are probably what they are worth but i wouldnt expect any of them leave for anywhere near those figures, as the club doesnt need to sell any of the above i would imagine you have to near double those values if you wanted to buy Huth or Shawcross, bego probably 10 -12m if the top four come sniffing around, Walters is a difficult one hes not as highly regarded outside Stoke on trent but for me he would be the last player id want to see go even if the offer was £20 million, hes the player that always gives his all and i dont think i can remember a bad performance from him
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Post by Han Solo on Dec 7, 2011 1:48:25 GMT
How fucking skewed are your views on that, Mumf?
Shawcross- 12m
Begovic- 6m
Huth- 6m
Walters- 2m
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Post by burberrybassist on Dec 7, 2011 1:49:35 GMT
Think in the premier league Shawcross would be valued higher than Huth due to being a couple of years younger and English. I agree with JBstokie, £5-6m for Walters, or though I'd hate to see him leave for that!!!
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Post by Han Solo on Dec 7, 2011 2:12:10 GMT
Burberry, who would shell out that much on him?
I'm stumped. It's not like he's either an emerging talent, or a waining powerhouse.
Nobody better than us would want him, literally the only teams interested would be those who saw how we did last year.
Basically, relegartion teams.
Their budget?
I'll eat my own shit if any of the bottom three spend 5m or more on a striker who keeps them up.
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 7, 2011 2:12:35 GMT
A lot of our squad are worth far more to us than they are in terms of market value. The likes of Fuller, Delap, Huth, Sorensen, Whelan, Pennant and Etherington spring to mind.
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Post by stans99 on Dec 7, 2011 2:28:04 GMT
A lot of our squad are worth far more to us than they are in terms of market value. The likes of Fuller, Delap, Huth, Sorensen, Whelan, Pennant and Etherington spring to mind. Excellent point. As TP always says the player has to be right for the club, so this must apply to other clubs too. So from a valuation point of view I guess it totally depends on who is buying and their specific needs at the time. |
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 7, 2011 3:38:58 GMT
I think within a year or two Bego will be our most sought-after and saleable player... but then 'keepers generally go for less...
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Post by brownsugar on Dec 7, 2011 3:41:46 GMT
We will always value players like walters more than other teams would ever value him purely because he fits Stoke like a glove and does exactly what the gaffer wants of him. Id value him at least 5million to 6.... Who would pay that???? Nobody good fuck off he aint for sale  Huthy - 12 million Shawcross - 10 million Asmir - 9 million Walters - 5/6 million |
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Post by Pricey on Dec 7, 2011 4:30:17 GMT
I reckon Walters is worth at least £5m to around half the clubs in the Premier League. He's a very under-rated finisher and would score more goals in a team better at putting strikers through on goal. I don't think we'd be remotely interested in selling at £5m though and we'd probably even have to think about it at £7-9m.
I'd rate all four as being worth in the region of that as well. £8m each.
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Post by foster on Dec 7, 2011 8:55:47 GMT
Huth £ 10 Million
Shawxross £ 8 million.
Walters £7 million.
Begovic £10 Million.
Also matters which team would want these players. A top 6 side would pay over the above amounts for Huth or Beggo as IMO these two could play a part in a top 6 side.
Can't see Walters or Ryan getting scouted by anyone in top 6 so their values wouldn't be much (if at all) higher.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2011 9:00:37 GMT
Shawcross - young, English, highly-rated. Start the bidding at £10m at least you'd think.
Huth's value would depend on whether or not he signs that new contract but given he's older than Ryan you'd think he'd be valued at around £8-10m
Bego - £6m - higher if he cements his first team place
Walters - £4-5m. If people pay £5m for the likes of Long, Chopra, Kitson etc then JW, who is proving himself week in week out and has broken into the Ireland set up is worth at least as much you'd think.
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Post by rorymscfc on Dec 7, 2011 9:04:00 GMT
Although Huthy is German I'm pretty sure he counts as home grown as he came to Chelsea at a young age & came through their system. This would add to his value if it is the case. Can anyone confirm?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 7, 2011 9:06:29 GMT
At the current rate of British players and if we remain in the Premiership I'd go with
Huth 14m
Ryan 12m
Bego 10m
Walters 8m
Of the rest of our squad I'd say the majority would be 3-5m with the exception of KJ who I'd place at around 8m, Whelan 6m and Wilson 6m.
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Post by foster on Dec 7, 2011 9:11:20 GMT
Shawcross - young, English, highly-rated. Start the bidding at £10m at least you'd think. I don't think Shawcross is as highly rated as you perceive. He lacks pace and can be a liability in terms of giving away pens. I can't see him breaking into the England squad either. Still a great player, but not in the 10m bracket IMO. |
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Post by redsaturday on Dec 7, 2011 9:50:48 GMT
Ok
Bego 11
He's young a great keeper and will get better
Huth & shawcross 8
Despite how much we rate them I think they both wouldn't fetch much, both have been labelled as thugs and anti football
Walters 7
Gives his all but will never be prolific
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Post by pittshillplotter on Dec 7, 2011 9:59:07 GMT
Who would attract the biggest fee....and how much..? As Usual I'll start... Huth £ 12 Million Shawxross £ 11 million. Walters £9 million. Begovic £8 Million. Given the fact that the January window is fast approaching and that desperation is a major factor in player valuations , I would say that the above valuations aren't far off. Not so long ago many were talking about £ 20 million for Shawcross and Walters is good for 10 goals or more. The stakes are very high ...£90 million to stay in the Premiership. I can't see Tone selling any of the above for less than what has been quoted. |
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Post by colourboy on Dec 7, 2011 10:10:09 GMT
Begovic £9m
Huth £8m
Shawcross £5m
Walters £4m
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Post by Bick on Dec 7, 2011 10:56:10 GMT
A lot of our squad are worth far more to us than they are in terms of market value. The likes of Fuller, Delap, Huth, Sorensen, Whelan, Pennant and Etherington spring to mind. This 100% |
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Post by RINGO STARR on Dec 7, 2011 12:31:35 GMT
Salif Diao is the most valuable player. He is the ambassador!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2011 12:43:42 GMT
Han
would you really eat your own shit ?
my that wouldnt be forgotten for a very long time
similar time to someone not going to watch a semi final because it was at wembley perhaps ?
try it - lets see how you get on matey ! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2011 12:44:53 GMT
I'd knock £3m off all of Mumf's valuations. The prices in the last window were crazy, fuelled by the ridiculous Torres & Carroll fees. Things might have calmed down now.  Wouldn't really want to sell any of 'em, even at Mumf's prices. |
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Post by geordielad on Dec 7, 2011 13:14:42 GMT
From an outsider looking in I think Shawcross would fetch a lot more than Huth. He may not be as good (I havent seen enough Stoke games to judge then really) but he is younger and English so will go for more. I think Begovic is quality from what Iv seen and think he will sell higher than Walters. I llike the look of Walters but you'd only get big money for him from top 5/6 clubs and I cant see them being interested.
Shawcross - £10mill
Begovic - £7mill
Huth - £5mill
Walters - £5mill
Its about importance to the team/club though which matters and obviously Walters is worth far more than £5mill to Stoke so they shouldnt sell him. Same goes for players like Gutierrez and Best at Newcastle, if we were to sell we'd probably only get £4-6mill for either player but they are worth more than that to us, despite outsiders probably thinking they are average players.
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Post by euanstokie123 on Dec 7, 2011 13:34:26 GMT
At the current rate of British players and if we remain in the Premiership I'd go with Huth 14m Ryan 12m Bego 10m Walters 8m Of the rest of our squad I'd say the majority would be 3-5m with the exception of KJ who I'd place at around 8m, Whelan 6m and Wilson 6m. I wouldnt spend 6p on Wilson let alone 6m |
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Post by magicmanfuller on Dec 7, 2011 13:40:01 GMT
i rate shawcross but i dont think he is a good as some people go on on here. He has limitations which i think will stop him from being truely top class. you'd be looking at maybe 7-9 mill for him i reckon. Huth is a good player & reletively young for a centre half, 6-7 mill. Bego before the recent errors would have been at least 7 mill, but at the minute I think we'd do well to fetch over 6 for him. walters - max 5 mill.
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Post by wickerman on Dec 7, 2011 21:11:18 GMT
Although Huthy is German I'm pretty sure he counts as home grown as he came to Chelsea at a young age & came through their system. This would add to his value if it is the case. Can anyone confirm? Yes he does count as home grown . Needs to spend 36 months in country prior to turning 21. RH was at Chelsea from aged 16. |
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