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Post by stokemark on Nov 25, 2011 11:09:30 GMT
Britannia soon to be renamed 'Jurassic Park'
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Post by PONTAFCE on Nov 25, 2011 11:12:16 GMT
palacios is proving to be pulis' biggest ever mistake for a transfer if he truely isn't fit still. considering demba ba didn't pass our medical, yet palacios did and so did woodgate. for me, heads have got to roll with whoever is doing the medicals at the club - questions need to be answered, and the club should be making a public statement apologising to the fans for the huge mistakes of our medical team. What a load of shit worst buy.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 25, 2011 11:14:26 GMT
According to the Official site today Palacios may start tomorrow or may be held back to start in the Kiev game on Thursday. Doesn't sound like he is a long way from full fitness.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Nov 25, 2011 11:14:49 GMT
jezbutler Jeremy Butler Stoke boss Tony Pulis says Wilson Palacios is unlikely to start against Blackburn as he is not fit enough. Crouch is a doubt #scfc #brfc Comments are a crock of shit! Pulis actually said that Palacios was fit but he is saving him to start the Kiev game - managers choice!
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 25, 2011 11:15:17 GMT
Why don't we start him and play him for 70 minutes or until he runs out of steam? Delap only manages 60 minutes anyway before he's fucked so why not give WP the opportunity. FFS Ethers and JP haven't been totally fit but have been starting games. Absolutely right. There's more to this than meets the eye. Fuller and Sidibe are straight into the squadafter being out for months on end. Fuller even gets on the pitch. WP who is clearly a better FOOTBALLER than what we have now doesn't get a look in. More of the same shit football on Saturday.
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Post by superjonnywalters on Nov 25, 2011 11:16:22 GMT
Right, ok.
Our 8 million pound man, brought in to push us on is "rested" for a massive league game and selected for the European fixture even though we are top and looking favourable for progression?
Ok.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 25, 2011 11:18:20 GMT
If he was fit, I don't doubt for a second that Pulis would have him in as pretty much the first name on the sheet.
It's the fact he isn't deemed fit that's the problem. And how exactly is he going to get fit if he doesn't play?
10Sep Liverpool 19 (sub) 15Sep Kiev 81 18Sep Sunderland 19 (sub) 20Sep Spurs 66 29Sep Besiktas 61 20Oct Tel Aviv 11 (sub) 3Nov Tel Aviv 74
Given how many first team minutes he's got through, combined with 3 months of professional training and rehab, it's hard to understand how he hasn't naturally arrived at Pulis fitness yet (even though he's fit enough to satisfy himself)?
This knee 'issue', whatever it is, must be the complicating factor lurking in the background. Is it chronic, or once he's over it, will that be that? Don't suppose anything but time will give us the answer.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Nov 25, 2011 11:20:43 GMT
Is this the offical lets believe everything we read on twitter day
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Post by foster on Nov 25, 2011 11:23:54 GMT
According to Sky Crouch groin strain, but Delap late fitness test and also Matty Crouch groin strain = You're dropped. I'm giving KJ a start and bringing on CJ and Ric later in the game.
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Post by Kingswaystokie on Nov 25, 2011 11:24:44 GMT
This is getting daft. If I was the chairman of a company and a manager asked me to spend £6mill on an investment to improve things I WOULD WANT RETURN ON MY BLOODY INVESTMENT. The investment says he is fit, the manager says he isn't who is telling the bloody truth ?
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Nov 25, 2011 11:29:21 GMT
Why don't we start him and play him for 70 minutes or until he runs out of steam? Delap only manages 60 minutes anyway before he's fucked so why not give WP the opportunity. FFS Ethers and JP haven't been totally fit but have been starting games. Absolutely right. There's more to this than meets the eye. Fuller and Sidibe are straight into the squadafter being out for months on end. Fuller even gets on the pitch. WP who is clearly a better FOOTBALLER than what we have now doesn't get a look in. More of the same shit football on Saturday. There is a difference in that you can risk an attacking player being below par but a key midfielder being unfit is going to cost you goals That doesn't explain how Delap gets in mind ???
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Nov 25, 2011 11:29:58 GMT
jezbutler Jeremy Butler Stoke boss Tony Pulis says Wilson Palacios is unlikely to start against Blackburn as he is not fit enough. Crouch is a doubt #scfc #brfc Comments are a crock of shit! Pulis actually said that Palacios was fit but he is saving him to start the Kiev game - managers choice! Well its the wrong one, and while we are at it does he think supporters are stupid. How fit can Fuller be compared to Palacios but Fuller doesnt even have to play 90 minutes in any reserve game after recupation from 6 months out and still comes straight back in as did Sidibe. Its all wrong. He must think we are thick as pig shit
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Post by sufolkstokie on Nov 25, 2011 11:32:42 GMT
Comments are a crock of shit! Pulis actually said that Palacios was fit but he is saving him to start the Kiev game - managers choice! Well its the wrong one, and while we are at it does he think supporters are stupid. How fit can Fuller be compared to Palacios but Fuller doesnt even have to play 90 minutes in any reserve game after recupation from 6 months out and still comes straight back in as did Sidibe. Its all wrong. He must think we are thick as pig shit That is most unlike you JSU?
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 25, 2011 11:33:13 GMT
Delap will play whether he passes or fails the fitness test it's a fucking joke to even discuss a Stoke line up without the ageing chucker.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Nov 25, 2011 11:33:20 GMT
Palacios apparently hasn't had long enough to practice his long throws
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 25, 2011 11:37:29 GMT
Wind yer necks in lads and lasses. Lets see what happens and more importantly what has happened after 90 mins tomorrow.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Nov 25, 2011 12:02:41 GMT
What is bizarre and illogical is that Palacios isn't fit to start but is fit to sit on the bench! Doesn't Wilson know you have to have two and half seasons practice, like Tuncay, to perform this athletic feat!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 12:05:23 GMT
Wind yer necks in lads and lasses. Lets see what happens and more importantly what has happened after 90 mins tomorrow. why bother waiting to see who is actually picked when people can have a damn good whinge and start berating the manager based on pure speculation of one person on twitter?? you should know by now, the rule on this board is "Never let the truth get in the way of a good Stoke City bashing thread"
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Nov 25, 2011 12:06:19 GMT
Wind yer necks in lads and lasses. Lets see what happens and more importantly what has happened after 90 mins tomorrow. theres no place for sensible comments on here
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Post by Davef on Nov 25, 2011 12:15:20 GMT
Wind yer necks in lads and lasses. Lets see what happens and more importantly what has happened after 90 mins tomorrow. theres no place for sensible comments on here And what happens after 90 minutes tomorrow if things don't go the way we want them to go? Are people allowed to have an opinion then?
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Post by lordb on Nov 25, 2011 12:19:47 GMT
theres no place for sensible comments on here And what happens after 90 minutes tomorrow if things don't go the way we want them to go? Are people allowed to have an opinion then? yes of course how about waiting till then though before lambasting SCFC?(as some on this board already have)
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Post by cmonstoke1983 on Nov 25, 2011 12:31:55 GMT
Does Pulis really think his fans are that dumb to believe the "not match fit" line that he wheels out week after week in relation to Palacios? I have a few questions i'd love someone to get answers for from him: How is he supposed to get "match fit" if he's not featuring much in matches? How can Ricci Fuller be deemed "match fit" and get 20-30mins against QPR when he's been out for months? Why not start with Palacios and play him until he's knackard and then revert to Rory, rather than starting with a shattered Rory and then bringing on Palacios for 10 mins. If we did it this way around then maybe we'd be a few goals in the lead before going back to boring hoofball.
My belief is that we've got to wait until Palacios has had the footballing ability trained out of him, afterall why would we want some one who can pass in the midfield when we could have him trained to be a hoof-er who just punts it up to the front two.
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Post by mistersausage on Nov 25, 2011 12:33:24 GMT
Strange how the Stoke medical team felt that Palacios was fit enough to spend 6 million on him then he is not fit enough to play for three months, and they say Ba was not fit and we don't sign him and he then plays most games and scores shitloads of goals, especially against us. Funny old game eh
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Post by Davef on Nov 25, 2011 12:35:40 GMT
And what happens after 90 minutes tomorrow if things don't go the way we want them to go? Are people allowed to have an opinion then? yes of course how about waiting till then though before lambasting SCFC?(as some on this board already have) Oh come on mate, it's a message board for Stoke City discussion. Don't you think there'll be a few moans and groans in the pubs tomorrow at the prospect of Palacios not figuring again? What's the difference between that and people moaning on here?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 25, 2011 12:40:56 GMT
Im not saying its not a big game because it is but its notn the game of the season is it as far as we are all concerned.We are on a bad run every team has them in the season but the majority of teams bounce back from them and start peforming again.I think it is a game that we will go into all guns blazing but even if we did lose we could still prove to beat the likes of Spurs and Everton. I think it could well be the biggest game of the season - Certainly the most important so far. If we were to lose and drop into the bottom 3 then we will be in a lot fo trouble and losing, much like winning, is a habit which is hard to break. Tomorrow could really see a big turnaround in our season and push us into mid table safety. It will also have an impact on the January Transfer window and our league position on the 1st o January will either help or hinder us with regards to bringing new faces in. It is absolutely crucial, especially as it's against Blackburn - We could really hurt them with a thumping defeat.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Nov 25, 2011 12:42:51 GMT
Wind yer necks in lads and lasses. Lets see what happens and more importantly what has happened after 90 mins tomorrow. why bother waiting to see who is actually picked when people can have a damn good whinge and start berating the manager based on pure speculation of one person on twitter?? you should know by now, the rule on this board is "Never let the truth get in the way of a good Stoke City bashing thread" Actually it is several journos on Twitter who attended the press conference and are reporting on what came of the capped one's mouth, and the official website and Sky
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Post by superjonnywalters on Nov 25, 2011 12:43:14 GMT
yes of course how about waiting till then though before lambasting SCFC?(as some on this board already have) Oh come on mate, it's a message board for Stoke City discussion. Don't you think there be a few moans and groans in the pubs tomorrow at the prospect of Palacios not figuring again? What's the difference between that and people moaning on here? This.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 25, 2011 12:44:43 GMT
yes of course how about waiting till then though before lambasting SCFC?(as some on this board already have) Oh come on mate, it's a message board for Stoke City discussion. Don't you think there be a few moans and groans in the pubs tomorrow at the prospect of Palacios not figuring again? What's the difference between that and people moaning on here? I'll moan if I want to!! I don't believe it's 'Stoke bashing' to be asking serious questions about a £6 million player not being 'match fit' and in the manager's view, unable to play after months and months at the club. Before the last game, Kemp made the lame excuse that due to the added European games they 'hadn't had time to work on him properly'. How does this work then, if you have a midweek match players not involved stop training?? Why don't the club come out and give a full and proper explanation for Palacios's continued absence instead of these airy-fairy, throw away, comments that satisfy no one except whatever inept Radio Stoke reporter is asking the questions at the time! Is there more to this than meets the eye, I wonder??
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Post by werrington on Nov 25, 2011 12:50:54 GMT
Palacios has called Pulis;s bluff by saying he is 100% fit and raring to go.
We shall see eh?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 25, 2011 12:55:46 GMT
Well its the wrong one, and while we are at it does he think supporters are stupid. How fit can Fuller be compared to Palacios but Fuller doesnt even have to play 90 minutes in any reserve game after recupation from 6 months out and still comes straight back in as did Sidibe. Its all wrong. He must think we are thick as pig shit That is most unlike you JSU? Yeah I was just thinking the same ... has somebody hacked into his account? Oh and I thought is was actually eight (not six) million that we signed Wilson for: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=Potters&thread=173163&page=1#3002718
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