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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 23:08:10 GMT
We agreed a fee with Everton in August. The deal was going to go through but then Arsenal stepped in and brought Arteta. Moyes said to Kenwright that if both players go he(moyes) is walking out on Everton so Kenwright had no alternative but to back down. If as the OP says Moyes has got other targets lined up we should be able to go in for him. But as has been said above, Cahill is no spring chicken so why don't we go for the players Everton are bringing in? Exactly Mark. The whole world knows about Everton's financial struggles. So why should we pick up their left-overs when they move on to presumably younger up-and-coming targets.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 18, 2011 23:08:55 GMT
Cahill is the absolutely perfect alternative to Walters - absolutely perfect. If we actually need an alternative to Walters I'm not sure but if Super John was injured for any length of time, then I'm struggling to think of another player in the Prem who could play that (very) specific role for us any better. Really? I wouldn't have thought he was a similar player to Walters in that he wont take on players as well as Walters and, although he is fantastic in the air, I cannot see him filling Walters role any better than Walters does. Absolutely not better. But I'd rather have him on the bench to cover that specific position than Jerome. However, as I said in my original post, I'm not even sure that we actually need cover for Walters.
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Post by werrington on Nov 18, 2011 23:09:17 GMT
We agreed a fee with Everton in August. The deal was going to go through but then Arsenal stepped in and brought Arteta. Moyes said to Kenwright that if both players go he(moyes) is walking out on Everton so Kenwright had no alternative but to back down. If as the OP says Moyes has got other targets lined up we should be able to go in for him. But as has been said above, Cahill is no spring chicken so why don't we go for the players Everton are bringing in? Do you think we would of bought Crouch also Mark if we had signed signed cahill.....somehow i doubt it given the age of them both?
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Post by kylelightbourne on Nov 18, 2011 23:09:48 GMT
We agreed a fee with Everton in August. The deal was going to go through but then Arsenal stepped in and brought Arteta. Moyes said to Kenwright that if both players go he(moyes) is walking out on Everton so Kenwright had no alternative but to back down. If as the OP says Moyes has got other targets lined up we should be able to go in for him. But as has been said above, Cahill is no spring chicken so why don't we go for the players Everton are bringing in? Cos TP likes the prem tried and tested and I'd have thought Moyes is looking at players from abroad, especially with their financial situation
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Post by Irish Stokie on Nov 18, 2011 23:12:33 GMT
Really? I wouldn't have thought he was a similar player to Walters in that he wont take on players as well as Walters and, although he is fantastic in the air, I cannot see him filling Walters role any better than Walters does. Absolutely not better. But I'd rather have him on the bench to cover that specific position than Jerome. However, as I said in my original post, I'm not even sure that we actually need cover for Walters. Fair enough, he would be a fantastic option coming off the bench but i doubt he would join unless he was guaranteed first team football. How much is being quoted as the fee for him?
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Post by werrington on Nov 18, 2011 23:15:39 GMT
Really? I wouldn't have thought he was a similar player to Walters in that he wont take on players as well as Walters and, although he is fantastic in the air, I cannot see him filling Walters role any better than Walters does. Absolutely not better. But I'd rather have him on the bench to cover that specific position than Jerome. However, as I said in my original post, I'm not even sure that we actually need cover for Walters. I dont think we do either tbh? We need somebody ( cover ) who can play wide and who is prepared to run at defenders and offer that something different as we are very one dimensional at the moment
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 18, 2011 23:17:10 GMT
A busted flush without any doubt and would be massive waste of money. Technically poor footballer.
How about the club get off their lazy arses and scout some talent instead of relying on other peoples cast offs?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 18, 2011 23:17:24 GMT
Absolutely not better. But I'd rather have him on the bench to cover that specific position than Jerome. However, as I said in my original post, I'm not even sure that we actually need cover for Walters. Fair enough, he would be a fantastic option coming off the bench but i doubt he would join unless he was guaranteed first team football. How much is being quoted as the fee for him? Oh that would very much be the worry ... would we be signing him to replace somebody who is a good deal younger than him, in the same we signed Woodgate to displace Huth?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 23:22:26 GMT
How about the club get off their lazy arses and scout some talent instead of relying on other peoples cast offs? Are you mad?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 18, 2011 23:23:26 GMT
We agreed a fee with Everton in August. The deal was going to go through but then Arsenal stepped in and brought Arteta. Moyes said to Kenwright that if both players go he(moyes) is walking out on Everton so Kenwright had no alternative but to back down. If as the OP says Moyes has got other targets lined up we should be able to go in for him. But as has been said above, Cahill is no spring chicken so why don't we go for the players Everton are bringing in?Everton have much more pull than we do, with their recent years in the Prem and they also have one of the best managers in the League so for those reason I don't think we could compete against them, and wages wise I'd be surprised If we can offer more than they can due to our wage structure.
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Post by larstoke on Nov 18, 2011 23:30:19 GMT
I'd be dead happy with cahill. He can play left back, can't he?
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Post by march4 on Nov 19, 2011 0:28:55 GMT
Cahill would score at least 20 goals from our set plays.
He would be one of the greatest signings of our modern histroy.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 19, 2011 1:38:58 GMT
Cahill = pipedream.
Too old . . . . too slow . . . . . too injury prone . . . . . can't play left back . . . . .
Not much going for it really!
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 19, 2011 1:43:21 GMT
Cahill would score at least 20 goals from our set plays. He would be one of the greatest signings of our modern histroy. 4 seasons ago, yes, I'd agree whole heartedly but now he would spend too much time getting to know the physios than he would getting to know our daunting system that has every team in the prem baffled and quakkiing in their boots.
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Post by stokeyouth on Nov 19, 2011 2:23:24 GMT
Cahill would score at least 20 goals from our set plays. He would be one of the greatest signings of our modern histroy. Last season we only scored 11 goals from set pieces. What the fuck do you want Cahill to do? Magic the other 9 out of thin air. He'd be a decent squad signing on a free. Not worth anything over £5m, neither was Crouch but I think TP has learnt..
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Post by mark71 on Nov 19, 2011 2:23:41 GMT
We agreed a fee with Everton in August. The deal was going to go through but then Arsenal stepped in and brought Arteta. Moyes said to Kenwright that if both players go he(moyes) is walking out on Everton so Kenwright had no alternative but to back down. If as the OP says Moyes has got other targets lined up we should be able to go in for him. But as has been said above, Cahill is no spring chicken so why don't we go for the players Everton are bringing in?Everton have much more pull than we do, with their recent years in the Prem and they also have one of the best managers in the League so for those reason I don't think we could compete against them, and wages wise I'd be surprised If we can offer more than they can due to our wage structure. I agree with that to a point but Everton aren't the club they were, financially there on their arse, there is no way they could afford to sign the players we have this season. Wages wise we can and do pay as much as Everton do. Players like Crouch and Jones don't come cheap.
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Post by prettyricky on Nov 19, 2011 4:41:30 GMT
He is about 32 now isnt he?.....if so it seems a strange signing......we need some pace in the side and he isnt the answer at this moment in time No, no, no We don't need pace, ok it was a nice idea lets run it along the ground and take people on and we do play some brilliant football at times but for the most part it isn't working, Tim Cahill regardless of his age would be a godlike player for us always been a long time admirer in fact he is possibly my favourite player ever and exactly the kind of man we should be looking at
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 19, 2011 9:14:30 GMT
He's the best player in the air in the Premiership and for that reason I can see where TP is coming from. Can play in midfield too and would be a better option than most players we already have in that position. I'd love him at Stoke for a couple of seasons.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 19, 2011 9:39:05 GMT
We agreed a fee with Everton in August. The deal was going to go through but then Arsenal stepped in and brought Arteta. Moyes said to Kenwright that if both players go he(moyes) is walking out on Everton so Kenwright had no alternative but to back down. If as the OP says Moyes has got other targets lined up we should be able to go in for him. But as has been said above, Cahill is no spring chicken so why don't we go for the players Everton are bringing in? That was my understanding of the Cahill situation in August, Mark (although Rudgie sort of denied it to me.) He'd be a fantastic acquisition, even at 32.
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Post by alexk on Nov 19, 2011 9:46:08 GMT
Would be another ridiculous signing. He's 32, almost never scores these days(and if he doesn't score, he doesn't do a whole lot else) and he's on over £50K a week.
Why is Tony Pulis turning SCFC into a retirement home? We need younger, hungry players, not has-beens after one last pay day.
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 19, 2011 10:03:58 GMT
If we're talking another massive fee for a player in the Autumn of his career, then I really do give up.
Coates must be going senile.
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Post by LH_SCFC on Nov 19, 2011 10:12:35 GMT
The Xmas adverts are on so the New Signings thread should also be on.
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Post by foster on Nov 19, 2011 10:20:39 GMT
I like Cahill and would love to get him in cheap. However, there no point in building up a collection of tall and/or top class headerers of the ball like KJ, Cahill, Crouch, etc if the crosses into the box are few and far between. Not to mention generally shite.
Sort the midfield out first Tone. A striker is the last of our priorities at the moment.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 19, 2011 10:22:03 GMT
The Xmas adverts are on so the New Signings thread should also be on. This.
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