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Post by stokie23 on Oct 30, 2011 10:50:31 GMT
The Guy gets better and better every week. Its not like he is a flair player who has a bag of tricks, he is getting praised for his work ethic, timely runs, through balls, crosses, head down and run attitude. In his short time here, he has scored a double at the baggies, scored a double at wembley, and winners against chelsea and liverpool.
Obviously a fans favourite, but what does it take to get a player legendary status.
Consistency, more than 5 years at the club, averaging more than 10 a season???
Also think its been talked about before but does Fuller go down as a city legend ??
Keep it up SJW!!
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Post by cheekymonkey on Oct 30, 2011 11:14:06 GMT
I don't think Fuller could be called a legend, much as I like him. By legend I suppose you mean Greenhoff, Hudson, Shilton, Matthews etc... IMO Walters could be, but he'd need to say in the side, in the Prem, score a shitload more, and be part of a team that won some silverware...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 11:26:51 GMT
This is new news, thanks
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Post by smigchop on Oct 30, 2011 11:27:15 GMT
In my time supporting stoke, 21 years, ricardo fuller is Number 1. Legend.
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Post by christhepotter on Oct 30, 2011 11:28:52 GMT
the most improved player i have ever seen, he was average at ipswich and not to great when he first came but then he just started to get better and better and if he carries on we will have a top quality player on our books
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Post by StokeOnTour on Oct 30, 2011 11:33:37 GMT
I don't think Fuller could be called a legend, much as I like him. By legend I suppose you mean Greenhoff, Hudson, Shilton, Matthews etc... IMO Walters could be, but he'd need to say in the side, in the Prem, score a shitload more, and be part of a team that won some silverware... fuller isnt but walters could be? aahaha wrong |
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Post by staffordshireknot on Oct 30, 2011 11:42:52 GMT
I think Fuller is a legend as his brace of goals and skill got us into the Premiership.
I also think Walters has the POTENTIAL to be as do a number of current players.
One current player that already is a legend in my opinion is Rory Delap who, thanks to his long throws, has made our club world famous.
He also contributed massively to our promotion hopes and also helped keep us safe in the Prem and helped get us to an FA cup final.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 30, 2011 11:58:45 GMT
Jon has done very well since coming to Stoke, but I think he is far from being a legend yet! Ric on the other hand must be the closest a player has become a legend for more than 20 years at this club! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 11:59:40 GMT
I don't think Fuller could be called a legend, much as I like him. By legend I suppose you mean Greenhoff, Hudson, Shilton, Matthews etc... IMO Walters could be, but he'd need to say in the side, in the Prem, score a shitload more, and be part of a team that won some silverware... Always the same from the older blokes who liked to pretend that their era was more significant. Fuller is adored and always will be. Legend. |
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Post by smigchop on Oct 30, 2011 12:10:34 GMT
I don't think Fuller could be called a legend, much as I like him. By legend I suppose you mean Greenhoff, Hudson, Shilton, Matthews etc... IMO Walters could be, but he'd need to say in the side, in the Prem, score a shitload more, and be part of a team that won some silverware... Always the same from the older blokes who liked to pretend that their era was more significant. +1 One mickey mouse cup and they think theyre better than us young uns  Fuller is adored and always will be. Legend. |
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Post by march4 on Oct 30, 2011 12:18:27 GMT
Who will be remembered in 25 years time, 50 years time, 100 years time?.
Certainly Rory - anyone else??
Ric perhaps, Ryan if he becomes an England international?
It takes a lot to be a legend - think pre 1950's, who can you remember????
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 13:05:37 GMT
Who will be remembered in 25 years time, 50 years time, 100 years time?. Certainly Rory - anyone else?? Ric perhaps, Ryan if he becomes an England international? It takes a lot to be a legend - think pre 1950's, who can you remember???? Good point. I reckon in 50 years, Rory, Fuller, Shawcross will still be legends, among the still surviving fans from the promotion and prem consolidation. We don't know what the state of the agme or even the world will be in 50 years. |
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Post by stokester1989 on Oct 30, 2011 13:14:57 GMT
Rory for me will be one to remember for me . i think many grandchildren will hear about the man with "bionic arms"
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Post by march4 on Oct 30, 2011 13:36:37 GMT
Rory for me will be one to remember for me . i think many grandchildren will hear about the man with "bionic arms" He is our one player who is known to fans around the world. |
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 30, 2011 13:44:06 GMT
Thats the point here the only time i saw Sir Stan live was running past me on match day aged 70.
All the so called legends are players that 60% of fans never saw play! I've got videos of the 70's and yes they were great players but if you are younger than 45 then Steino,Biggings,Beagarie, and the likes of Fuller will go down as modern day legends.
I also think the Geoff Salmons who played out wide was a hell of a player in the 70's but not too much gets said about him.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 30, 2011 13:48:10 GMT
Winning a trophy will mean that the whole team will become legends. Looking back to our league cup win .....the whole team remain legends to those who were lucky enough to be around at the time.
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Post by kerouac on Oct 30, 2011 13:49:09 GMT
Rory isn't a legend or anywhere near one in my eyes I'm afraid.To put him in the same league as Jimmy,Huddy,Steino etc is daft.I appreciate what he's done but his throws are tedious now and his legs have gone.
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Post by march4 on Oct 30, 2011 13:55:24 GMT
Rory isn't a legend or anywhere near one in my eyes I'm afraid.To put him in the same league as Jimmy,Huddy,Steino etc is daft.I appreciate what he's done but his throws are tedious now and his legs have gone. Hmmmmmm!! Don't even know where to start with that ;D |
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Post by oldgit57 on Oct 30, 2011 13:57:23 GMT
Big word legend, and tbh very difficult to decide the criteria!
Its a pretty valid point to say that many of us ( myself included) would favour players from our own "golden age", however that doesn't mean that you can't appreciate or repect players either before or after that! For example for me the poster who named Greenhoff, Huddy etc was spot on for me. But hey Steino, what a finisher and how can he not be mentioned when talking of Stoke legends? But what of the people who came before? The Neil Franklins, Freddy Steeles, the Frankie Mountfords and we aint even mentioned Sir Stan!
Lets be honest, its all a matter of opinion really, and we all have our favourites, rightly or wrongly.
In truth I think that if we were to apply the definitive criteria to our " legends " perhaps only Sir Stan and Banksy would qualify! But that certainly does not mean that we cannot celebrate the talents of all the other players that have been mentioned on this thread!
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Post by march4 on Oct 30, 2011 14:10:12 GMT
Big word legend, and tbh very difficult to decide the criteria! Its a pretty valid point to say that many of us ( myself included) would favour players from our own "golden age", however that doesn't mean that you can't appreciate or repect players either before or after that! For example for me the poster who named Greenhoff, Huddy etc was spot on for me. But hey Steino, what a finisher and how can he not be mentioned when talking of Stoke legends? But what of the people who came before? The Neil Franklins, Freddy Steeles, the Frankie Mountfords and we aint even mentioned Sir Stan! Lets be honest, its all a matter of opinion really, and we all have our favourites, rightly or wrongly. In truth I think that if we were to apply the definitive criteria to our " legends " perhaps only Sir Stan and Banksy would qualify! But that certainly does not mean that we cannot celebrate the talents of all the other players that have been mentioned on this thread! Legends to me are those players who will be remembered by future generations when those of us who saw them play are long gone. Legends are those players that fans of other clubs remember and associate with us. There are not many about and certainly not many at SCFC. Think of legends at other clubs; Bobby Moore, George Best, Billy Wright, etc. Who can we add from SCFC to the list? Sir Stan is a legend, as is Banksie, but are they associated with SCFC by your average fan? Franklin is a legend in our eyes, but how many knowledgeable fans from other clubs will have heard of him? Denis Smith is a legend to me, but can he really go into the list of big time legends? (same goes for Huddy and Greenhoff). No players from the dark years can be included in my list, even our best player from that period; Steve Bould. (or Steino or Thorney). Can lower league players be legends?? What about Lee Chapman - who was close to top scorer in the top division in his period with us. Would anyone list him as a legend? Or Mark Chamberlain, the 2nd best player I have ever seen play for anyone (after Sir Stan) In conclusion, I think we can sub-divide legend into 3 categories; 1) personal legend 2) club legend 3) footballing legend And just to give you food for thought, every Vale fan I know would put Roy Sproson in all of the above 3 categories. |
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Post by hidman on Oct 30, 2011 14:22:00 GMT
For me first and foremost is Pulis, I've seen so many dark days in my 30 years as a fan and TFP has change all that, Coates too for that matter. As far as players go, then everyone who took us to the promised land has it for me! In the current squad on top of those, agree SJW has every chance as does KJ, Ringtone and Peter C, shame about Huth at the moment because he could and should go down in history, total leg in my opinion
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Post by Linx on Oct 30, 2011 14:38:06 GMT
Who will be remembered in 25 years time, 50 years time, 100 years time?. Certainly Rory - anyone else?? Ric perhaps, Ryan if he becomes an England international? It takes a lot to be a legend - think pre 1950's, who can you remember???? Not that I was there, but obviously Matthews, Franklin and Soo could be classed as SCFC legends. |
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Post by staffordshireknot on Oct 30, 2011 15:14:59 GMT
Rory isn't a legend or anywhere near one in my eyes I'm afraid.To put him in the same league as Jimmy,Huddy,Steino etc is daft.I appreciate what he's done but his throws are tedious now and his legs have gone. Respect your opinion but you dont half talk nonesense. |
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Post by staffordshireknot on Oct 30, 2011 15:17:09 GMT
Big word legend, and tbh very difficult to decide the criteria! Its a pretty valid point to say that many of us ( myself included) would favour players from our own "golden age", however that doesn't mean that you can't appreciate or repect players either before or after that! For example for me the poster who named Greenhoff, Huddy etc was spot on for me. But hey Steino, what a finisher and how can he not be mentioned when talking of Stoke legends? But what of the people who came before? The Neil Franklins, Freddy Steeles, the Frankie Mountfords and we aint even mentioned Sir Stan! Lets be honest, its all a matter of opinion really, and we all have our favourites, rightly or wrongly. In truth I think that if we were to apply the definitive criteria to our " legends " perhaps only Sir Stan and Banksy would qualify! But that certainly does not mean that we cannot celebrate the talents of all the other players that have been mentioned on this thread! Legends to me are those players who will be remembered by future generations when those of us who saw them play are long gone. Legends are those players that fans of other clubs remember and associate with us. There are not many about and certainly not many at SCFC. Think of legends at other clubs; Bobby Moore, George Best, Billy Wright, etc. Who can we add from SCFC to the list? Sir Stan is a legend, as is Banksie, but are they associated with SCFC by your average fan? Franklin is a legend in our eyes, but how many knowledgeable fans from other clubs will have heard of him? Denis Smith is a legend to me, but can he really go into the list of big time legends? (same goes for Huddy and Greenhoff). No players from the dark years can be included in my list, even our best player from that period; Steve Bould. (or Steino or Thorney). Can lower league players be legends?? What about Lee Chapman - who was close to top scorer in the top division in his period with us. Would anyone list him as a legend? Or Mark Chamberlain, the 2nd best player I have ever seen play for anyone (after Sir Stan) In conclusion, I think we can sub-divide legend into 3 categories; 1) personal legend 2) club legend 3) footballing legend And just to give you food for thought, every Vale fan I know would put Roy Sproson in all of the above 3 categories. Rory Delap meets all your criteria then. He is the most famous Stoke player the world over due to his long throws. He will be remembered for a long time after he and most fans will be gone. |
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Post by kerouac on Oct 30, 2011 15:30:16 GMT
No,Crouch is more famous throughout the world.
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Post by chell_rosey on Oct 30, 2011 16:59:37 GMT
Jon has done very well since coming to Stoke, but I think he is far from being a legend yet! Ric on the other hand must be the closest a player has become a legend for more than 20 years at this club! ;D Will we be talking about Ric in 20 years time? Yes. Even if only for the quality of some of his goals. That equals Legend in my eyes. Will be be still talking about SJW? Probably. That's not quite legendary status. Yet... |
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 30, 2011 17:03:16 GMT
In his short time here, he has scored a double at the baggies, scored a double at wembley, and winners against chelsea and liverpool. Winner v Chelsea? ??? |
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Post by choppercherry on Oct 30, 2011 17:08:17 GMT
David Oldfield, legend! |
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 30, 2011 17:11:27 GMT
walters a legend this has got to be the biggest piss take ever,average on his day a dog with a balloon on a bad day, a sorry day for SCFC when players like this are banded about as legends
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 17:30:58 GMT
walters a legend this has got to be the biggest piss take ever,average on his day a dog with a balloon on a bad day, a sorry day for SCFC when players like this are banded about as legends I suppose abit similar to you calling yourself a fan you negative tool  everything you post is against the team and the manager  |
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