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Post by frasier45 on Oct 23, 2011 20:42:34 GMT
Help appreciated ... my lad is looking for a pa/mixer/pre amp for a small band but, mainly to record by adding his mac and software
and after having a butchers around i'm tempted by the above equipment.
I know there are quite a few musicians that use the Oatcake so, was wondering if you rated them or if there was anything better preferred for the price range
lad is only 15 and i haven't a clue
thanks
ps
are Rode NT1A recording mics as good as they read?
thanks again
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Post by frasier45 on Oct 24, 2011 10:45:29 GMT
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Post by redsaturday on Oct 24, 2011 10:58:19 GMT
Maybe people avoiding coming on the oc due to the wrist slashers.
Or no one Feckin knows
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Post by amancalledhorse on Oct 24, 2011 11:07:53 GMT
Can't help you on the mic.
How much is that mixer/what's your budget?
How many/what instruments will be recorded and what sort of venue will he be playing at?
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Post by frasier45 on Oct 24, 2011 11:09:32 GMT
;D i've got to admit i've avoided the main board in case i slash my wrists i don't like to think about our game for at least two days after a loss
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Post by frasier45 on Oct 24, 2011 11:15:59 GMT
Can't help you on the mic. How much is that mixer/what's your budget? How many/what instruments will be recorded and what sort of venue will he be playing at? £310 There are three of them But, mainly Vocal acoustic recording. On occasion, small band ie Base-Drums-Lead-Vocal School hall - Chapel nothing big
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Post by amancalledhorse on Oct 24, 2011 11:28:14 GMT
That one you posted could well be overkill for that sort of application then. For computer recording, a cheaper interface bundled with similar lite ed software would do the job for recording. You'd probably need no more than two inputs and that would be for recording vox and acoustic together. Something like this www.dv247.com/computer-hardware/m-audio-mobile-pre-usb-usb-bus-powered-preamp-and-audio-interface--9473 would do the job though you might want to spend some money on low end monitors to go with it. That big mixer would be very little use live either as it doesn't have a power amp. If they're performing live in a small room, you would mic up very few instruments, probably only the vocals so the 'mixing' element would come down to turning a volume knob. You can certainly get a computer recording set up well within your budget. For a PA system, you might want to look at the busker sort of kits, none of which I can think of off hand. I expect Yamaha and the like make them though. A second-hand Fender Passport might come in budget but wouldn't do your recording.
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Post by davel on Oct 24, 2011 11:52:52 GMT
Just had a quick look but there doesn't seem to be any onboard effects such as reverb or echo etc, a must for recording vocals.
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Post by amancalledhorse on Oct 24, 2011 11:56:27 GMT
I wouldn't worry too much about onboard effects. If the software doesn't come with them, you can use a sequencer called Reaper that comes with an infinite evaluation license (though really you should consider buying it as they only ask for 30 quid) and there are plenty of plugins floating round for that.
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Post by frasier45 on Oct 24, 2011 11:56:30 GMT
Cheers Horse, much appreciated and will look deeper into it.
Davel, i think he has reverb and alike for recording on the software program on the connected Mac
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Post by amancalledhorse on Oct 24, 2011 12:36:32 GMT
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Post by frasier45 on Oct 24, 2011 15:35:55 GMT
It only has one stereo output We've Just had a play on a Zed14 at my wifes school with added Mac and garage band i couldn't get him away from it ;D although i'm still looking tonight make a decision tomorrow cheers again mate
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 24, 2011 15:44:53 GMT
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Post by slicko on Oct 24, 2011 16:37:43 GMT
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Post by frasier45 on Oct 24, 2011 18:32:34 GMT
Huddy, I do use GAK, they're not bad at all I've been told today by a lad at Rock FM that they use these in Liverpool www.studiocare.comslicko - It's just a software program which he already uses. He wants to add Preamp/mixer
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Post by burberrybassist on Oct 26, 2011 15:18:06 GMT
ps are Rode NT1A recording mics as good as they read? thanks again They are very good, however in my opinion Shure make the best microphones for both recording and performing. I'd suggest something like the Shure PG42 for the studio, and the SM58 for live gigs etc.
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Post by Widget123 on Oct 26, 2011 16:05:21 GMT
The Rode mic are very good. Sennheiser's are even better - I have two that I've used extensively for recording audio for the last 7 years. As your lad is 15 I'd say that investing £300+ sheets in a top end mic is probably over kill at the moment. Instead - take a look at this: www.editorskeys.com/sl300-usb-studio-vocal-microphone-extras.htmlI've heard nothing but praise for this USB (!) mic from pro's I know in the industry. Its rock solid, provides an excellent return on investment in terms of quality and fidelity. It'll plug stright into a mac or pc and your ready to go with your favorite software. Its £99 so its not going to break the bank either.
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Post by frasier45 on Oct 26, 2011 18:59:51 GMT
Today, after waiting in vain for more info on here at 10.40 I decided to order an Allen&heath zed14 PA and a Rode NT1A Recording mic Then, at tea time today I get options of other equipment Thanks anyway lads
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