billc
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Post by billc on Sept 21, 2011 19:37:56 GMT
I was researching a piece for the Sentinel on the 70s and I decided to look at 1975. It was interesting to read the accounts of hooliganism perpetrated in Stoke and by Stoke fans in various locations.
In Feb after a 4-0 drubbing Man City fans went on the rampage and to quote a senior Police Officer . " We might have expected it from Manchester United- and it appears that the mantle of violence has descended on Manchester City fans.
Shortly afterwards Stoke played Wolves a 2-2 draw in a game marred by pitch invasions and 4 stabbings.
Stoke play a friendly in March in Stafford and the town suffers damage from Stoke fans especially shops in Marston Road are looted.
A Stoke fan is stabbed at an away game at Derby and a local MP calls Stoke along with United fans the worst in the country.
Finally on Easter Monday with over 40,000 in the ground. There is another stabbing. Liverpool supporters rob a middle aged man in Hill St, a programme seller is attacked and robbed and someone makes off with £200 from one of the turnstilles. There are 25 arrests for theft and 25 arrests for possession of offensive weapons, criminal damage, etc .
On a lighter note United are playing in the Second Division courtesy of a back heel by Mr Dennis Law
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Post by Gods on Sept 21, 2011 19:39:53 GMT
Kids of today, don't know they're born  |
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Sept 21, 2011 20:05:48 GMT
Wow  |
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Post by offthewall on Sept 21, 2011 20:08:25 GMT
I went to all those games and can confirm that I was not even stabbed once.
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 21, 2011 20:10:57 GMT
I went to all those games and can confirm that I was not even stabbed once. But you don't mention the looting or theft of ticket money...? hmmmm... ;D |
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Post by blockelevenview on Sept 21, 2011 20:14:05 GMT
I am sure that when we were in the second division(in the 70's) a Stoke fan got stabbed to death by Spurs fans and remember the police coming to school to ask if any kids had been to the game and seen anything .... Can anyone else remember this incident or is it a figment of my imagination ? There doesn't seem to be a lot of bad blood between us and Spurs
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Post by offthewall on Sept 21, 2011 20:38:50 GMT
I am sure that when we were in the second division(in the 70's) a Stoke fan got stabbed to death by Spurs fans and remember the police coming to school to ask if any kids had been to the game and seen anything .... Can anyone else remember this incident or is it a figment of my imagination ? There doesn't seem to be a lot of bad blood between us and Spurs No, a Stoke lad was beaten very very badly at one spurs match from what i remember |
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Post by trebor63 on Sept 21, 2011 20:47:14 GMT
My formative 'Stoke' years were spent on the Stoke end looking enviously towards the boothen. Every single week a big black hole, of what looked like a circle about 30foot circumference, appeared and the familiar 'Stokie agro Stokie agro hello hello' chant would rise. And when the crowd gathered its normal shape and the 'invading' fans had been stretchered out, the chant of 'your goin home in a Staffordshire ambulance' was the 'victory' chant
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Post by SidibeGod on Sept 21, 2011 21:56:07 GMT
I went to all those games and can confirm that I was not even stabbed once. Twice? |
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Post by offthewall on Sept 22, 2011 6:37:40 GMT
I went to all those games and can confirm that I was not even stabbed once. Twice? ;D once at all. |
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Post by Binndy on Sept 22, 2011 6:41:30 GMT
I was at all home matches and only ever walked past a punch up once.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2011 6:53:34 GMT
45 years ive ben going and i cant tell you it ws nowt like it is today , i was in
Baddeley Green a couple of year ago , when West ham arrived what a do that ! was Mable even had to go in the concert room for her sherry and the meat raffle was cancelled
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Post by scottzbj on Sept 22, 2011 6:59:44 GMT
I was at all home matches and only ever walked past a punch up once. You mean you got stuck in every other time? :-) |
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Post by armitagestokie on Sept 22, 2011 7:20:00 GMT
70's had loads of violent scenes. 2 sets of fans in the Boothen and a thin blue line of plod seperating them. "You'll never take the Boothen" rang out as biscuitware was flung back and forth,then you might also see the odd pub ashtray!Lads used to carry bags of potters slip hanging from their belts, in Sentinel a picture showed a copper covered from head to foot.Hot meat an tatta pies were also lobbed and the occasional dart!!
I loved chucking PMT ticket rolls, never afforded the classic bog rolls and the toilet ones had gone ages before.
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billc
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Post by billc on Sept 22, 2011 7:27:42 GMT
A mate of mine at University from Buxton remembers a mass brawl amongst Stoke fans sometime in the 70s at a friendly at Buxton when they got bored with the match
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Post by theincontinents on Sept 22, 2011 9:04:01 GMT
I was a season ticket holder in the boothen end in 1975 and traveled to all but 1 away game that season aged 17/18. There's a lot of mythology about this era and far too much to debunk in a single posting. If you want to message me feel free and that way you can be sure of some genuine information.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2011 14:23:19 GMT
"I loved chucking PMT ticket rolls"
Berresfords never ad any =)
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Post by mayf on Sept 22, 2011 15:12:16 GMT
whenever there was a game with a big away following in the 70's/early 80's when we'd come out of the Boothen End past the main stand it would always be kicking off and we'd have to nip down the back allyways to get round it only to find it going off on the car sales on the corner as well ....it's a car wash now......the good ole days  |
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Post by withnall on Sept 22, 2011 15:51:51 GMT
In the early seventies, the place to be was the Stoke End.
Unlike the Boothen, away fans were welcomed in there.
There has always been places inside the ground for home fans (Boothen), and it is because of places like the old Stoke End that segregation was deemed essential.
The nutters that used to try and take the Boothen were always escorted back to the Stoke End, where they joined their merry gang, surrounded by Stokies who were more game for the "aggro" than the match.
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 22, 2011 17:26:05 GMT
i remember going to luton in77/78 absolute mayhem stoke fans trashed the dump
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Sept 22, 2011 17:58:06 GMT
went the stafford rangers away "friendly" on the train think we lost but followed the trail of damage thru Stafford on the way back to the station  and my post is my 1975 th how weird ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? |
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Post by andrewcritchlow on Sept 22, 2011 18:00:51 GMT
Iam a Stoke fan from Buxton and I went to the friendlies at Buxton in the seventies. A mob of Stoke fans
came up from Leek and were doing the conga on the pitch at half time. Garth Crooks was playing and the Buxton fans started singing zigger zagger zigger Stoke's got a nigger. Try getting away with that one now.
The following year all the Buxton heavy mob turned up for a set to but there was only me and my mate there.
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