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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2011 8:58:02 GMT
We are at a stage now with so many new faces and players performing that the team will be selected on form only. For me its simple. Best performers deserve to keep their place.
Bego Shotton Shawcross Huth Wilson Pennant Palacios Whitehead Walters Jerome Crouch
and you?
Big selection headache for TP !
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Sept 16, 2011 9:03:03 GMT
We are at a stage now with so many new faces and players performing that the team will be selected on form only. For me its simple. Best performers deserve to keep their place. Bego Shotton Shawcross Huth Wilson Pennant Palacios Whitehead Walters Jerome Crouch and you? Big selection headache for TP ! Not that I'm disagreeing with you............but you've left out Woodgate and Upson!!!!!! Talk about being spoilt for choice!!!!! Happy Days!!!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 9:03:07 GMT
Crouch, Ethers, Pennat, Delap, Bego, Wilson, Woodgate - I think they will al come back in. Begovic Huth Shawcross Woodgate Wilson Pennant Delap Palacios Etherington Crouch Jerome/Walters
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2011 9:06:03 GMT
Crouch, Ethers, Pennat, Delap, Bego, Wilson, Woodgate - I think they will al come back in. Begovic Huth Shawcross Woodgate Wilson Pennant Delap Palacios Etherington Crouch Jerome/Walters i dont like seeing Huth at right back. does Etherington deserve to keep his place? has been very poor this season.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2011 9:07:25 GMT
We are at a stage now with so many new faces and players performing that the team will be selected on form only. For me its simple. Best performers deserve to keep their place. Bego Shotton Shawcross Huth Wilson Pennant Palacios Whitehead Walters Jerome Crouch and you? Big selection headache for TP ! Not that I'm disagreeing with you............but you've left out Woodgate and Upson!!!!!! Talk about being spoilt for choice!!!!! Happy Days!!!! ;D Its that or Huth will be gone in January unfortunately. He is an absolute disaster waiting to happen at full back. tough choice to make !
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Post by steventweed on Sept 16, 2011 9:09:35 GMT
Crouch, Ethers, Pennat, Delap, Bego, Wilson, Woodgate - I think they will al come back in. Begovic Huth Shawcross Woodgate Wilson Pennant Delap Palacios Etherington Crouch Jerome/Walters i dont like seeing Huth at right back. does Etherington deserve to keep his place? has been very poor this season. He's been carrying a bit of an injury hasn't he? His movement seems somewhat inhibited. At least he should be fresh.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2011 9:12:03 GMT
i dont like seeing Huth at right back. does Etherington deserve to keep his place? has been very poor this season. He's been carrying a bit of an injury hasn't he? His movement seems somewhat inhibited. At least he should be fresh. to be honest i've got a nasty feeling we will be seeing the end of Etherington fairly shortly. Has never recovered from the Wolves injury. Hes afraid of taking players on, his touch has gone, and even his passing seems erratic. Shame. he was a fine player to watch on his day.
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Post by steventweed on Sept 16, 2011 9:12:41 GMT
I can see Whitehead starting having only got a limited run out last night. He's not everyone's cup of tea, but a player with his kind of stamina is pretty useful for a team with as many fixtures as us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 9:20:57 GMT
I think Upson will be rested, he hasn't really had a preseason yet he would have to play 3 games in a week so close to the beginning of the season, might be too much for the lad. For me I think we need a solid back line against Spurs as well which means that the Carling Cup, whilst not being a priority, is important. I'd rest Upson and Woodgate. I'd also give Shotton his much deserved chance, we liked how Wilko links up with Pennant, imagine how someone who can actually use the ball would do with Pennant!
Bego Shotton Huth Shawcross Wilson Pennant Delap Whelan Matty Walters KJ
I would only leave Palacios out as he hasn't played 90 mins for a while, and had to be subbed yesterday as he was quite clearly kankered, I wouldn't want to push him too far as he looks like he could be amazing for us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 9:23:07 GMT
He's been carrying a bit of an injury hasn't he? His movement seems somewhat inhibited. At least he should be fresh. to be honest i've got a nasty feeling we will be seeing the end of Etherington fairly shortly. Has never recovered from the Wolves injury. Hes afraid of taking players on, his touch has gone, and even his passing seems erratic. Shame. he was a fine player to watch on his day. Completely disagree, personally I think he's just had a bit of a poor start to the season, which can be explained by the games we've played. Away from home we are never very attacking, and at home we've had to play against Liverpool and Chelsea. Matty will get his confidence back soon, I think that's all he is lacking.
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Post by nantwichstokie on Sept 16, 2011 9:24:33 GMT
He's been carrying a bit of an injury hasn't he? His movement seems somewhat inhibited. At least he should be fresh. to be honest i've got a nasty feeling we will be seeing the end of Etherington fairly shortly. Has never recovered from the Wolves injury. Hes afraid of taking players on, his touch has gone, and even his passing seems erratic. Shame. he was a fine player to watch on his day. Dear me. You have stuck your neck out there and I reckon that sooner rather than later this post will make you look a dick.
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Post by Gods on Sept 16, 2011 9:26:15 GMT
He's been carrying a bit of an injury hasn't he? His movement seems somewhat inhibited. At least he should be fresh. to be honest i've got a nasty feeling we will be seeing the end of Etherington fairly shortly. Has never recovered from the Wolves injury. Hes afraid of taking players on, his touch has gone, and even his passing seems erratic. Shame. he was a fine player to watch on his day. Well that's Matty's obituary written then Hope someone has told him he's finished ;D
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2011 9:28:41 GMT
I think Upson will be rested, he hasn't really had a preseason yet he would have to play 3 games in a week so close to the beginning of the season, might be too much for the lad. For me I think we need a solid back line against Spurs as well which means that the Carling Cup, whilst not being a priority, is important. I'd rest Upson and Woodgate. I'd also give Shotton his much deserved chance, we liked how Wilko links up with Pennant, imagine how someone who can actually use the ball would do with Pennant! Bego Shotton Huth Shawcross Wilson Pennant Delap Whelan Matty Walters KJ I would only leave Palacios out as he hasn't played 90 mins for a while, and had to be subbed yesterday as he was quite clearly kankered, I wouldn't want to push him too far as he looks like he could be amazing for us. Why would you play Jones instead of Crouch? And not play Palacios? Fair enough just curious as to the reasons.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Sept 16, 2011 9:39:32 GMT
Bego Shotton Huth Woodgate Wilson Pennant Palacios Delap Etherington Crouch Walters
Bench Sorro Shawcross Wilko Whelan Whitehead Jones Jerome
Jerome will be knackered after first game of the season KJ will be knackered after another long trip Shawcross has played every game and the lad needs a rest Upson will be knackered and he and Shawcross should be centre pairing on Tuesday Palacios however just looked like he was getting stronger and stronger in the second half. Need two good positional tackling mids against Sunderland - they have less threat down the wings so would like to see the attacking intent of Shotton, overlapping with Pennant
Walters has had a good rest, as has Crouch. If Matty is fit, he and Wilson, plus Shotton and Pennant could be very potent with Crouch and Walters in the box with Palacios pushing forward and Delap mopping up
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Post by superscfc on Sept 16, 2011 9:58:20 GMT
Bego
Shotton - Upson - Huth - Wilson
JP - Palacios - Deano - Ethers
Crouch - Walters
Bench: Sorro, Wilko, Shawcross, Delap, Whelan, Jerome, Kenwyne!
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Post by geoffscott on Sept 16, 2011 10:03:36 GMT
Begovic Shotton Shawcross Huth Wilson Pennant Whitehead Whelan Etherington Crouch Walters
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 10:04:31 GMT
I think Upson will be rested, he hasn't really had a preseason yet he would have to play 3 games in a week so close to the beginning of the season, might be too much for the lad. For me I think we need a solid back line against Spurs as well which means that the Carling Cup, whilst not being a priority, is important. I'd rest Upson and Woodgate. I'd also give Shotton his much deserved chance, we liked how Wilko links up with Pennant, imagine how someone who can actually use the ball would do with Pennant! Bego Shotton Huth Shawcross Wilson Pennant Delap Whelan Matty Walters KJ I would only leave Palacios out as he hasn't played 90 mins for a while, and had to be subbed yesterday as he was quite clearly kankered, I wouldn't want to push him too far as he looks like he could be amazing for us. Why would you play Jones instead of Crouch? And not play Palacios? Fair enough just curious as to the reasons. Jones is playing against his former club. Strikers that do that usually have a bit of a bee in their bonnet and give it their all. So i'd save Crouch for Spurs so he can do it there. Palacios, like I said, had a blinder yesterday but that's one of his first starts all year, don;t want to rush him too quick by then getting him to play two in a few days.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Sept 16, 2011 10:16:06 GMT
Begovic Wilko Shawcross Huth Wilson Pennant Delap Whelan Etherington Crouch Walters Bench: Sorensen, Woodgate, Shotton, Jones, Whitehead, Palacios, Jerome IMO we need to play with 2 proper full backs against Sunderland I believe Pennant's slow start to the season is due to him not playing with Wilkinson at full-back.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Sept 16, 2011 10:28:55 GMT
Begovic Wilko Shawcross Huth Wilson Pennant Delap Whelan Etherington Crouch Walters Bench: Sorensen, Woodgate, Shotton, Jones, Whitehead, Palacios, Jerome IMO we need to play with 2 proper full backs against Sunderland I believe Pennant's slow start to the season is due to him not playing with Wilkinson at full-back. I'd be very happy with that team given the schedule we're up against. As well as Palacios did I think we need to go steady with him. Personally I'd start him against Spurs rather than the Mackems.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 10:36:50 GMT
can we keep the unbeaten run going? - a tough one, but i think we will win 2-1 (crouch walters)
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Post by stokelad84 on Sept 16, 2011 10:41:06 GMT
We are at a stage now with so many new faces and players performing that the team will be selected on form only. or me its simple. Best performers deserve to keep their place. I disagree with you there Nick, fitness is also a big issue with the amount of game we will have this season. Would Palacios and Jerome be fit enough for another tough away game within 3 days of Kiev? We not have a big enough first time to swap and change without weakening the starting lineup (apart from on the wings really)
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Sept 16, 2011 10:43:20 GMT
can we keep the unbeaten run going? - a tough one, but i think we will win 2-1 (crouch walters) We have a wealth of talent to put on the paddock even after travelling to Kiev and back......I'd settle for a draw, as I believe that Blunderland will be very desperate and may even try to 'do a Stoke' on us..... In saying that I think Gyan's leaving may have started something of a rot within the club and they may be on the verge of imploding....... binary soccer to continue......1-0 to us (Walters to score)
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Post by Binndy on Sept 16, 2011 10:46:14 GMT
If Delap is injured play shotton.wilson injured play Huth. Matty injured play walters Begovic
Shotton/wilko upson woodgate wilson/huth
shawcross a week off , back , having rested for the manure match Pennant Deano/delap Palacios Matty / walters Crouch jerome.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2011 10:52:39 GMT
We are at a stage now with so many new faces and players performing that the team will be selected on form only. or me its simple. Best performers deserve to keep their place. I disagree with you there Nick, fitness is also a big issue with the amount of game we will have this season. Would Palacios and Jerome be fit enough for another tough away game within 3 days of Kiev? We not have a big enough first time to swap and change without weakening the starting lineup (apart from on the wings really) thats fine, but then by that theory, Jones, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, Upson cant play either? With Etherington out of form too we wont have many quality players to pick from if we avoid playing those who played last night (although i certainly dont think Jones is quality at the best of times and we should do our utmost to avoid selecting him). Im a big believer that for the premier league you have to use your best 11. If they cant hack 2 games in a week on 40 k a week then its pretty fucked up Thus Palacios, Crouch, Walters, Jerome, Pennant etc should be on the pitch regardless. If there tired, fine, sub them on the hour mark. A 70% Palacios is a mile better than a 100% Delap. And Crouch on one leg is better than Jones.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 16, 2011 10:59:10 GMT
I disagree with you there Nick, fitness is also a big issue with the amount of game we will have this season. Would Palacios and Jerome be fit enough for another tough away game within 3 days of Kiev? We not have a big enough first time to swap and change without weakening the starting lineup (apart from on the wings really) thats fine, but then by that theory, Jones, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, Upson cant play either? With Etherington out of form too we wont have many quality players to pick from if we avoid playing those who played last night (although i certainly dont think Jones is quality at the best of times and we should do our utmost to avoid selecting him). Im a big believer that for the premier league you have to use your best 11. If they cant hack 2 games in a week on 40 k a week then its pretty fucked up Thus Palacios, Crouch, Walters, Jerome, Pennant etc should be on the pitch regardless. If there tired, fine, sub them on the hour mark. A 70% Palacios is a mile better than a 100% Delap. And Crouch on one leg is better than Jones. Don't agree with some of this. But 100% agree with the fitness issue, players should really be able to play 2 or 3 times a week well for the money they are paid, plus the fact that it is actually their job, so they need to suck it up and get on with it. ;D
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Sept 16, 2011 11:01:39 GMT
I can see him resting Shawcross for this one.
Bego Huth Woodgate Upson Wilson Pennant Delap Whitehead Etherington Crouch Walters
With Palacios, Jerome and Jones to come on from the bench.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2011 11:01:52 GMT
thats fine, but then by that theory, Jones, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, Upson cant play either? With Etherington out of form too we wont have many quality players to pick from if we avoid playing those who played last night (although i certainly dont think Jones is quality at the best of times and we should do our utmost to avoid selecting him). Im a big believer that for the premier league you have to use your best 11. If they cant hack 2 games in a week on 40 k a week then its pretty fucked up Thus Palacios, Crouch, Walters, Jerome, Pennant etc should be on the pitch regardless. If there tired, fine, sub them on the hour mark. A 70% Palacios is a mile better than a 100% Delap. And Crouch on one leg is better than Jones. Don't agree with some of this. But 100% agree with the fitness issue, players should really be able to play 2 or 3 times a week well for the money they are paid, plus the fact that it is actually their job, so they need to suck it up and get on with it. ;D Indeed. If they dont like it they can always join me in the Call Centre.
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Post by stokelad84 on Sept 16, 2011 11:09:13 GMT
thats fine, but then by that theory, Jones, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, Upson cant play either?I'm not saying they can't play, just saying the manager and coaching team can assess their fitness to see if they can last a Premier League game. Upson has played 2 games in a week without a pre season, so I expect him to be rested. Same with Palacios (he played in 1 and a half games, but still needs to be nurtured) Thus Palacios, Crouch, Walters, Jerome, Pennant etc should be on the pitch regardless. If there tired, fine, sub them on the hour mark. A 70% Palacios is a mile better than a 100% Delap. And Crouch on one leg is better than Jones. That's just silly, why have a player who is 70% fit playing when we have players like Delap and Whitehead who are 90+% fit? Remember the cup final where a 70% fit Etherington, Huth and Jones struggled? 'Crouch on one leg is better than Jones' why does it have to be either Crouch or Jones? Some games they will start together (altho a more rested Walters would be more likely to start against Sunderland)
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2011 11:12:21 GMT
thats fine, but then by that theory, Jones, Whelan, Huth, Shawcross, Upson cant play either?I'm not saying they can't play, just saying the manager and coaching team can assess their fitness to see if they can last a Premier League game. Upson has played 2 games in a week without a pre season, so I expect him to be rested. Same with Palacios (he played in 1 and a half games, but still needs to be nurtured) Thus Palacios, Crouch, Walters, Jerome, Pennant etc should be on the pitch regardless. If there tired, fine, sub them on the hour mark. A 70% Palacios is a mile better than a 100% Delap. And Crouch on one leg is better than Jones. That's just silly, why have a player who is 70% fit playing when we have players like Delap and Whitehead who are 90+% fit? Remember the cup final where a 70% fit Etherington, Huth and Jones struggled? 'Crouch on one leg is better than Jones' why does it have to be either Crouch or Jones? Some games they will start together (altho a more rested Walters would be more likely to start against Sunderland) Well...maybe your right. But then Delap isnt 100 percent as hes got an injury (groin) so does that pave the way for Palacios? And I take it you agree that Crouch should play instead of Jones? On a completely separate note, Palacios doesnt appear to have a neck.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2011 11:51:24 GMT
Crouch, Ethers, Pennat, Delap, Bego, Wilson, Woodgate - I think they will al come back in. Begovic Huth Shawcross Woodgate Wilson Pennant Delap Palacios Etherington Crouch Jerome/Walters unless there are injuries I think TP will pick this side (with Walters not Jerome) & then make lots of changes for Tuesday
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