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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 13, 2011 13:30:06 GMT
Do people think we will ever get relegated under the stewardship of Sir Tony??
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Post by Miracle Aligner on Sept 13, 2011 13:43:52 GMT
If we stay up this year with the added constraints of Europe (which I think we will), then IMO we will remain in the Premier League until TP retires.
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Post by Batfink on Sept 13, 2011 13:45:29 GMT
No
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Post by mayf on Sept 13, 2011 13:52:42 GMT
The way he sends his teams out it's always likely we'll amass enough point to survive
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Post by Coll40 on Sept 13, 2011 14:02:39 GMT
What bollox - who do you think we are ? At the moment, Man City, Man U and Chelsea are safe. Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs should be ok, but even they could have problems if their top players get injured. After those, ANYONE can be relegated. It only takes a few injuries to key players and we'd be in trouble
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Post by niel on Sept 13, 2011 14:15:09 GMT
Certainly possible........nothing lasts forever so enjoy it while it lasts.
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Post by kylelightbourne on Sept 13, 2011 14:17:32 GMT
Course we can pulis isn't invincible, if you think it's impossible to be relegated under him you're deluded
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Post by Sammz on Sept 13, 2011 14:18:06 GMT
that's why he won't throw caution to the wind until we reach the safety barrier circa 40 points....and he's right not to imho.
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Post by joinerssquire on Sept 13, 2011 14:20:15 GMT
Of course we might. Who would have thought that Forest would have been relegated whilst Cloughie was in charge. Mind you he was knocking back the vino a bit more than Sir Tone does.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 13, 2011 14:41:34 GMT
The question was do we THINK we'll get relegated under Tony Pulis. Of course we COULD get relegated. Anything is possible and we mustn't start thinking we have a right to be in the top flight.
But do I THINK we WILL get relegated under TP? No I don't, I'm pleased to say.
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Post by vahl on Sept 13, 2011 14:47:10 GMT
I think there's more chance of us being relegated by
a) the aftermath of Peter Coates' death (lets be honest here.. he isn't getting any younger) b) who buys the club in the future
Not whether TP can keep us up or not.
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Post by burberrybassist on Sept 13, 2011 15:41:45 GMT
Only through some major drastic occurrences like mentioned above (injuries/change of ownership) can I see us being relegated under Pulis. If there's one thing he can do better than any others manager, it's saving a club from relegation.
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Post by howedy on Sept 13, 2011 15:51:29 GMT
i heard somewhere that tony has never led a team to relegation, is that true?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 13, 2011 16:26:48 GMT
i heard somewhere that tony has never led a team to relegation, is that true? Yes, it is true. About 6 clubs in 20 years and no relegations. Not sure of the exact figures. Edit: According to Wiki it is 6 clubs (7 if you count Stoke twice) in 19 years.
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Post by jg8 on Sept 13, 2011 17:16:51 GMT
Do people think we will ever get relegated under the stewardship of Sir Tony?? No
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Post by spongebobflathead on Sept 13, 2011 19:18:32 GMT
The way he sends his teams out it's always likely we'll amass enough point to survive +1 Of course it's Possible but I doubt it !
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 13, 2011 19:31:08 GMT
It's possible, but I can't see it ever happening under the present manager. Right now we're getting stronger and stronger and pushing on. We're building the club's infrastructure and giving ourselves a solid platform that should make us a properly established team like Everton or Villa, who wouldn't be relegated unless there was a serious disaster.
The two defining moments will be the choice of manager when TP leaves and whether the Coates family decide to carry on investing when Peter Coates retires.
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Post by Rick Oshea on Sept 13, 2011 19:40:55 GMT
relegation under tony doesnt seem logical
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 13, 2011 19:41:52 GMT
I think it depends on whether we can hang on to Begovic, Huth and Shawcross. If we lose these three then things will start to get difficult and it would really depend on whether Pulis could bring in quality replacements. With these 3 at the back though I can't see us conceding enough goals to be relegated.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 13, 2011 20:47:41 GMT
Do people think we will ever get relegated under the stewardship of Sir Tony?? No, although if we had a massive injury list there would be testing times!
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Post by str8outtahampton on Sept 13, 2011 21:05:39 GMT
I would have thought most people vaguely familiar with our history (and indeed the unpredictability of life) would say it's "when", not "if", although Pulis' (and Coates') pragmatic approach reduce the chances I suspect.
But if you had suggested in February/March 1975, just after we had beaten Derby away (who went on to win the title that year), that we would spend around 30 of the next 36 years outside the top division, sinking towards the bottom of the third tier, getting through about 20 managers, and winning only the Autoglass (two times, mind) in the meantime - you would have been sectioned.
Nothing should be taken for granted, and these heady days should (therefore) be relished and cherished.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 13, 2011 21:08:08 GMT
I would have thought most people vaguely familiar with our history (and indeed the unpredictability of life) would say it's "when", not "if", although Pulis' (and Coates') pragmatic approach reduce the chances I suspect. But if you had suggested in February/March 1975, just after we had beaten Derby away (who went on to win the title that year), that we would spend around 30 of the next 36 years outside the top division, sinking towards the bottom of the third tier, getting through about 20 managers, and winning only the Autoglass (two times, mind) in the meantime - you would have been sectioned. Nothing should be taken for granted, and these heady days should (therefore) be relished and cherished. Top post. I fear that too many of our supporters are taking our current position for granted. We must enjoy the ride while it lasts
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2011 21:15:57 GMT
i heard somewhere that tony has never led a team to relegation, is that true? They used to say the same about Brian Horton.
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Post by swampmongrel on Sept 13, 2011 21:18:14 GMT
I think it depends on whether we can hang on to Begovic, Huth and Shawcross. If we lose these three then things will start to get difficult and it would really depend on whether Pulis could bring in quality replacements. With these 3 at the back though I can't see us conceding enough goals to be relegated. I have absolute faith in TP's ability to sign good keepers and centre halves (usually on the cheap as well). It's his bread and butter.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 13, 2011 21:19:03 GMT
No chance, but we have to hope he never wakes up one morning and decides that we have to play like Arsenal. It's a well known fact that Stoke will be relegated if they start to pass the ball.
Make the most of it lads, when TP leaves, the Potters will be in the conference quicker than you can say hoofit.
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Post by lg1985 on Sept 13, 2011 21:22:18 GMT
Apart from Man U, City, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool, everyone else is only ever 1 bad season away from relegation.
Whilst I don't think we'll go down any time soon with our defence, would be interesting to see what would happen if we did go on a really bad losing run and looked in trouble would Coates panic and give Pulis the boot to try and keep us up or would he keep him on and trust him to try and get us back up?
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Post by spongebobflathead on Sept 13, 2011 21:31:09 GMT
Apart from Man U, City, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool, everyone else is only ever 1 bad season away from relegation. Whilst I don't think we'll go down any time soon with our defence, would be interesting to see what would happen if we did go on a really bad losing run and looked in trouble would Coates panic and give Pulis the boot to try and keep us up or would he keep him on and trust him to try and get us back up? What does interest me is if we do ever go on a really bad run what would be the mood of the fans ! I think it's fair to say that tp has not really galvanised the support in the way macari did , these are the days I fear and any regrettable knee jerk reaction from a certain section of the support !
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Post by lewis2k on Sept 13, 2011 21:43:05 GMT
i dont think that we would get relegated because sir tone buys decent players and doesnt go out and by 6-10 players at a time. how many promoted teams can say, after nearly 4 seasons, still have 4 players in the first team and 3 more on the bench that were in the promotion team???
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Post by oldgit57 on Sept 13, 2011 22:59:22 GMT
Anything is possible given a certain set of circumstances, bad run of injuries, stand roof blowing off that sort of thing! Am old enough to remember Man U going down! Now if it can happen to a team with that sort of spending power and influence ( granted not as conspicuous then but there nonetheless!) then it can happen to anyone! Good point on another post that this same claim was frequently made by Brian Horton and tbh it used to irritate the fuck out of me then! That might just be the Vale thing though!
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Sept 13, 2011 23:05:51 GMT
i dont think that we would get relegated because sir tone buys decent players and doesnt go out and by 6-10 players at a time. how many promoted teams can say, after nearly 4 seasons, still have 4 players in the first team and 3 more on the bench that were in the promotion team??? Yep, and this is a reason Sunderland are struggling again Bruce tears the beating heart out of his starting 11 every season and brings in 8 or 9 new faces just for the sake of it. They never gel, and this could be the year they really sink like a stone.
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