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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2011 22:33:12 GMT
If that's true, in a week when we've had to put out a team with Danny Pugh and Michael Tonge starting, that is fucking insane.
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Post by MrMagic on Aug 20, 2011 22:34:16 GMT
Very interesting if true.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 20, 2011 22:38:25 GMT
But why? I know we're desperate for strikers, but Crouch is a long way from being a Stoke player. Far, far too much money for a 30 year old who doesn't even suit our style of play, apart from that he might get his head on the odd corner.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 20, 2011 22:45:33 GMT
Jesus Christ if he's really holding out for a double swoop he wants kicking in the dick.
We are desperate for Palacios in midfield, I could live without Crouch but I want Palacios here.
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Post by MrMagic on Aug 20, 2011 22:49:50 GMT
But why? I know we're desperate for strikers, but Crouch is a long way from being a Stoke player. Far, far too much money for a 30 year old who doesn't even suit our style of play, apart from that he might get his head on the odd corner. But Peter luuuurrves him and Tony lurrrvess Peter so we will chase him until 11:59 on 31/8 or he signs for someone else, whatever happens first. Personally I hope he signs for QPR tomorrow so that we can get on with chasing up realistic options.
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Post by trebor63 on Aug 20, 2011 22:55:01 GMT
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Aug 20, 2011 22:56:32 GMT
Why would he be so arsed about a double deal?
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Post by shiftyfifty on Aug 20, 2011 23:14:50 GMT
But why? I know we're desperate for strikers, but Crouch is a long way from being a Stoke player. Far, far too much money for a 30 year old who doesn't even suit our style of play, apart from that he might get his head on the odd corner. We play with 2 wingers and a 6'7" striker doesn't suit our play, what the f**k are you on?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 9:00:18 GMT
But why? I know we're desperate for strikers, but Crouch is a long way from being a Stoke player. Far, far too much money for a 30 year old who doesn't even suit our style of play, apart from that he might get his head on the odd corner. We play with 2 wingers and a 6'7" striker doesn't suit our play, what the f**k are you on? He's on planet "has actually watched a few Stoke games over the last few years and is absolutely right". What are you on?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 21, 2011 9:02:52 GMT
twitter.com/#!/reluctantnicko If deal's there to be done for P'cios, why would Pulis not go full steam ahead and deal with Crouch as a separate thing? OddWants both. Probably Crouch more than Palacios. Best way of getting both is doing it together.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Aug 21, 2011 9:04:53 GMT
Redknapp is desperate for incoming transfer money.Pulis does not want him to have the money until the whole deal is done i.e. both players. Probably believes he has a better chance of getting both of them for the right money if Redknapp stays under pressure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 9:05:05 GMT
twitter.com/#!/reluctantnicko If deal's there to be done for P'cios, why would Pulis not go full steam ahead and deal with Crouch as a separate thing? OddWants both. Probably Crouch more than Palacios. Best way of getting both is doing it together. That still sounds mental.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 21, 2011 9:19:22 GMT
Interesting that the journo on Sunday Supplement, Sam Wallace, who Woolnough says "knows Crouch well" says "Stoke are serious about getting him", but Crouch "wants to leave on his terms, not Levy's"
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Post by seddonstandviewer on Aug 21, 2011 9:30:54 GMT
Interesting that the journo on Sunday Supplement, Sam Wallace, who Woolnough says "knows Crouch well" says "Stoke are serious about getting him", but Crouch "wants to leave on his terms, not Levy's" That kind of hints that he is interested in coming here, but wants his pay off in full. re. Palacios. I know for a fact that he was here in January for talks at the Moat House hotel in Hanley.
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Post by fca47 on Aug 21, 2011 9:38:48 GMT
Seems to me that Stoke have agreed a double deal for them and agreed terms with the club. Bernstein however is a person who wants to screw everybody and is probably trying to get out of paying Crouch for something they owe him, and hence are trying to pull a fast one on Stoke. He is renowned for being a slimy b*st*rd.
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Post by shiftyfifty on Aug 21, 2011 10:02:06 GMT
We play with 2 wingers and a 6'7" striker doesn't suit our play, what the f**k are you on? He's on planet "has actually watched a few Stoke games over the last few years and is absolutely right". What are you on? I see by the 83 in your username you're 26 or 27, well I've been watching Stoke for 43 years, so think before you post silly, childish statements in future. Crouch is a far better striker than any of the other names we've been linked with. Unfortunately we're not going to get a Drogba or Rooney but I suppose you'd say they're crap too.
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Post by kitkatkev on Aug 21, 2011 10:03:03 GMT
please dont sign Crouch
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 10:13:00 GMT
He's on planet "has actually watched a few Stoke games over the last few years and is absolutely right". What are you on? I see by the 83 in your username you're 26 or 27, well I've been watching Stoke for 43 years, so think before you post silly, childish statements in future. Crouch is a far better striker than any of the other names we've been linked with. Unfortunately we're not going to get a Drogba or Rooney but I suppose you'd say they're crap too. So you asking another poster "what he's on" isn't childish, but me saying the same to you is? How does that work then? Crouch scores goals - I'm not saying he's not a good striker. I'm saying that we have a very rigid idea of what we ask our two strikers to do and he doesn't readily fit into either of them. He lacks pace, he isn't especially strong, and his work rate isn't always the best. He isn't going to buzz about running the channels all day, and it's hard to imagine him dropping into midfield when we don't have the ball. He's not really one for bustling past defenders and he's not particularly strong under pressure. Given all that, he seems like he might suffer the same problems that Dave Kitson suffered when it comes to figuring out how our system works.
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Post by chrispk76 on Aug 21, 2011 10:21:06 GMT
But he's good in goal , proven by himself at the Brit Personally I think he'll be great for holding the ball up to slide our wingers into play
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Post by shiftyfifty on Aug 21, 2011 10:22:24 GMT
I see by the 83 in your username you're 26 or 27, well I've been watching Stoke for 43 years, so think before you post silly, childish statements in future. Crouch is a far better striker than any of the other names we've been linked with. Unfortunately we're not going to get a Drogba or Rooney but I suppose you'd say they're crap too. So you asking another poster "what he's on" isn't childish, but me saying the same to you is? How does that work then? Crouch scores goals - I'm not saying he's not a good striker. I'm saying that we have a very rigid idea of what we ask our two strikers to do and he doesn't readily fit into either of them. He lacks pace, he isn't especially strong, and his work rate isn't always the best. He isn't going to buzz about running the channels all day, and it's hard to imagine him dropping into midfield when we don't have the ball. He's not really one for bustling past defenders and he's not particularly strong under pressure. Given all that, he seems like he might suffer the same problems that Dave Kitson suffered when it comes to figuring out how our system works. You didn't ask what I was on, you made a statement that hinted at me not watching Stoke, that's how it works. As for not fitting our style and not bustling past defenders, he can as much as Jones who goes down very easily looking for fouls and penalties. Besides which I thought we were supposed to moving on from that style of play?
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Post by dbpotters on Aug 21, 2011 10:26:28 GMT
I see by the 83 in your username you're 26 or 27, never assume 83 could be when he got married first had kids won the pools i mean come on i aint exactly 4 months old now am i
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Post by RAF on Aug 21, 2011 10:26:47 GMT
We play with 2 wingers and a 6'7" striker doesn't suit our play, what the f**k are you on? He's on planet "has actually watched a few Stoke games over the last few years and is absolutely right". What are you on? Seems he did ask what you are on! H
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Post by seddonstandviewer on Aug 21, 2011 10:27:57 GMT
I see by the 83 in your username you're 26 or 27, well I've been watching Stoke for 43 years, so think before you post silly, childish statements in future. Crouch is a far better striker than any of the other names we've been linked with. Unfortunately we're not going to get a Drogba or Rooney but I suppose you'd say they're crap too. So you asking another poster "what he's on" isn't childish, but me saying the same to you is? How does that work then? Crouch scores goals - I'm not saying he's not a good striker. I'm saying that we have a very rigid idea of what we ask our two strikers to do and he doesn't readily fit into either of them. He lacks pace, he isn't especially strong, and his work rate isn't always the best. He isn't going to buzz about running the channels all day, and it's hard to imagine him dropping into midfield when we don't have the ball. He's not really one for bustling past defenders and he's not particularly strong under pressure. Given all that, he seems like he might suffer the same problems that Dave Kitson suffered when it comes to figuring out how our system works. Wasting your breath.
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Post by wingy11 on Aug 21, 2011 10:28:35 GMT
I think if the deal is done for palacios i would bring him in how before any other teams come sniffing, i think crouch would be a good signing as well but i think it aint worth losing palacios over. Crouch is worse than jones for strength and power so god knows why we are even thinkin about signing him.
We need a fast skillful striker, ie another fuller please, Defoe would do ;D
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 21, 2011 10:29:24 GMT
It'd be a bit mystifying if we were actually prioritising Crouch over Bendtner for the same outlay.
Surely you'd go with the 23-year-old, over the bloke who'll be 31 in January?
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Post by shiftyfifty on Aug 21, 2011 10:33:36 GMT
He's on planet "has actually watched a few Stoke games over the last few years and is absolutely right". What are you on? Seems he did ask what you are on! H Fair enough, I missed that bit, I was so p***ed off at the first statement.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 10:39:47 GMT
The statement was supposed to imply that actually watching the games should make it clear how we play and how Crouch fits in. It was facetious, rather than some boring dick-measuring "true fan" contest.
I don't see how signing Crouch would be "moving on" from that style of play. When at the back end of last season we were playing good stuff against the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal, Bolton, Newcastle etc a large part of that was down to the power and mobility of our strikers. Jones is a lot stronger than Crouch even if he does go down a touch easily at times. Crouch isn't particularly quick or mobile and I could see us relying far more on set pieces than we already do, whereas what we need to progress are strikers who can do what Jones and Walters can do but offer more pace and trickery into the bargain.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 21, 2011 10:46:00 GMT
I think the only negative side of signing Crouch would be the financial outlay. That aside, he would, IMO, be a great signing.
Say 5m on 50k a week, I think a lot more would be on board with it. But 10m on up to 70k and of course people turn their heads.
I wouldn't be too happy paying anywhere near 10m for anyone on the wrong side of 30 on a 4 year deal thats for sure.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 21, 2011 10:47:45 GMT
I have been saying Junior Hoillet would be an immense signing for about 3 seasons now.
He would be the Fuller-esque signing that everyone would be drooling over if we pulled it off.
Sadly for us, I feel Blackburn have exactly the same idea. But if we are lumping 10m around on 31 year old Strikers, why not him bid less for him?
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Post by stokeyagro on Aug 21, 2011 11:53:02 GMT
I hope we get Crouch he score us shit loads of goals
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