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Post by n01stokie on Mar 17, 2011 16:06:20 GMT
Oh I dunno, some bloke called Fuller maybe? Fullers probably the worst of the lot! There's more to football than when we have the ball. Yes fuller is good with the ball at his feet running at people, but he is poor without the ball.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 17, 2011 16:10:52 GMT
Oh I dunno, some bloke called Fuller maybe? Fullers probably the worst of the lot! There's more to football than when we have the ball. Yes fuller is good with the ball at his feet running at people, but he is poor without the ball. So he doesn't run into the channels and create space for others etc? He's the best we have at it. And in the past 18 months Ric's workrate has been good. The witch hunt is sad.
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Post by n01stokie on Mar 17, 2011 16:33:28 GMT
i don't think your getting my point. yes fuller runs the channels, yes he can work hard closing down. I talking about general movement when we don't have the ball. Jones, Carew and Fuller are very static, they are what i would call reactive players, they wait for something to happen, and then react, i.e a cross into the box, a pass, a flick on. Walters is more a pro active player, he makes little runs, sometimes only 5 yards, but these create a little bit of space. I'm not saying he is the answer, and there have been occasions where he has looked poor, i think we need someone who is pro active but poses more of a goal threat. As it stands though i would put Walters in out strongest 11. I also think he get the best out of our wingers
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Post by rigsby on Mar 17, 2011 16:42:53 GMT
Begovic Wilson Huth Shawcross Higginbotham Pennant Whitehead Delap Etherington Carew Walters ---------------- Sorensen Wilkinson Collins Whelan Pugh Fuller Jones
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Post by Ddraigcoch on Mar 17, 2011 19:17:52 GMT
Barton is a doubt and so is Gutierez. Ireland defo not gonna feature, accoriding to BBC.
So lets get amongst from the off, just like last Sunday and be 3 pts the better off by final whisltle.
GOOOAAARRNNNNNN YOU RIP ROARING POTTERS!!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 17, 2011 22:28:42 GMT
i don't think your getting my point. yes fuller runs the channels, yes he can work hard closing down. I talking about general movement when we don't have the ball. Jones, Carew and Fuller are very static, they are what i would call reactive players, they wait for something to happen, and then react, i.e a cross into the box, a pass, a flick on. Walters is more a pro active player, he makes little runs, sometimes only 5 yards, but these create a little bit of space. I'm not saying he is the answer, and there have been occasions where he has looked poor, i think we need someone who is pro active but poses more of a goal threat. As it stands though i would put Walters in out strongest 11. I also think he get the best out of our wingers You're right I don't see Your point. I don't see how that running when we have the ball affects our attacking play. And how him doing that when we don't have the ball makes any difference? Why do we need to create space when we don't have the ball?
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 18, 2011 6:40:42 GMT
unsoiled sheet
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Post by n01stokie on Mar 18, 2011 9:14:48 GMT
i don't think your getting my point. yes fuller runs the channels, yes he can work hard closing down. I talking about general movement when we don't have the ball. Jones, Carew and Fuller are very static, they are what i would call reactive players, they wait for something to happen, and then react, i.e a cross into the box, a pass, a flick on. Walters is more a pro active player, he makes little runs, sometimes only 5 yards, but these create a little bit of space. I'm not saying he is the answer, and there have been occasions where he has looked poor, i think we need someone who is pro active but poses more of a goal threat. As it stands though i would put Walters in out strongest 11. I also think he get the best out of our wingers You're right I don't see Your point. I don't see how that running when we have the ball affects our attacking play. And how him doing that when we don't have the ball makes any difference? Why do we need to create space when we don't have the ball? I'm talking about off the ball movement when we have the ball.
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Post by Binndy on Mar 18, 2011 9:46:24 GMT
They have left back problems. They wont want to play recovering players. This will be a physical game and it going to have to be a win by hook or by crook. just hope it the same team from sunday and no red cards for us.
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Post by scfcmacca on Mar 18, 2011 11:07:01 GMT
begovic
wilson huth shawcross higgy
pennant delap whitehead etherington
carew jones
sorro pugh wilko whelan diao fuller walters
2-0
carew walters
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Post by lordb on Mar 18, 2011 12:43:32 GMT
I think the general point no1stokie makes about off the ball -pro-active-movement is spot on Walters IS good at this imho* Ric,JC aren't KJ isnt normally either however I noticed in his last two games he's been looking to make runs behind the CB's when they are defending a high line.In theory if we can slip a through ball we could get KJ one on one with the keeper on a regular basis IF 1: he keeps making these runs & 2:someone plays an early accurate ball often enough.
I shant hold my breath mind
* making space for other is crucial in attacking play Mark Stein was brilliant for many reasons & 1 of those was he was superb at anticipating chances,making the right runs at the right time e.t.c. e.t.c. Walters is no Stein unfortunately however I think he's a valuable player not soley re his effort/stamina but also because he reads the game so well & makes these runs.
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Post by mozzer68 on Mar 18, 2011 13:36:15 GMT
Carew a doubt
Begovic Wilson Huth Shawcross Higgy Pennant Delap Whelan Ethers Jones Walters
Sorro Wilko Collins Whithead Fuller Pugh
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Post by maximusdickie on Mar 18, 2011 14:08:06 GMT
We could do with 3 points, but we still have home games against Wigan and Wolves, which we will win. Need another 2 wins to guarantee safety, and if im honest i can see a draw 2moro. Newcastles form on the road is just as good as their home form. For starters, it's not tomorrow, it's on Saturday, but mainly....you said "we will win" the games against Wigan and Wolves! We will??? You know that for sure do you? Home game against Wolves last season, draw, home game with Wigan last season, draw. We are nowhere near guaranteed a win over anybody, ever, let alone Wigan and Wolves who are fighting for their Premier League lives. You've pretty much posted that comment as a kind of, yeah well, 3 points would be nice against 'Castle, but dun't really matter cuz we'll get 6 points off of Wolves and Wigan. Wouldn't be so sure matey, we NEED 3 points asap! Starting on Saturday!! Have a look at wigans and Wolves away records for this season compared newcastles. then maybe youll understand that we have more of a chace against wigan and wolves of 3 points than newcastle!
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Post by rigsby on Mar 18, 2011 14:19:25 GMT
For starters, it's not tomorrow, it's on Saturday, but mainly....you said "we will win" the games against Wigan and Wolves! We will??? You know that for sure do you? Home game against Wolves last season, draw, home game with Wigan last season, draw. We are nowhere near guaranteed a win over anybody, ever, let alone Wigan and Wolves who are fighting for their Premier League lives. You've pretty much posted that comment as a kind of, yeah well, 3 points would be nice against 'Castle, but dun't really matter cuz we'll get 6 points off of Wolves and Wigan. Wouldn't be so sure matey, we NEED 3 points asap! Starting on Saturday!! Have a look at wigans and Wolves away records for this season compared newcastles. then maybe youll understand that we have more of a chace against wigan and wolves of 3 points than newcastle! There's a difference between 'having more of a chance' and you stating 'we will win' though.
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Post by stokeyagro on Mar 18, 2011 15:14:39 GMT
Thats 3 words including and m8 lol
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 18, 2011 15:53:25 GMT
Two words that we have lost the knack of. We have lost the ability to grind out results with clean sheets and solid defensive play. We find ourselves in trouble because we have lost games we would have drawn last season, we have to stop conceding sloppy goals or the championship becons.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2011 16:12:31 GMT
You're right I don't see Your point. I don't see how that running when we have the ball affects our attacking play. And how him doing that when we don't have the ball makes any difference? Why do we need to create space when we don't have the ball? I'm talking about off the ball movement when we have the ball. I talking about general movement when we don't have the ball.Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=Potters&thread=154068&page=3#2623288#ixzz1Gy5YVAN1i don't think your getting my point. yes fuller runs the channels, yes he can work hard closing down. I talking about general movement when we don't have the ball. Jones, Carew and Fuller are very static, they are what i would call reactive players, they wait for something to happen, and then react, i.e a cross into the box, a pass, a flick on. Walters is more a pro active player, he makes little runs, sometimes only 5 yards, but these create a little bit of space. I'm not saying he is the answer, and there have been occasions where he has looked poor, i think we need someone who is pro active but poses more of a goal threat. As it stands though i would put Walters in out strongest 11. I also think he get the best out of our wingers Make Your mind up!
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Post by n01stokie on Mar 18, 2011 16:35:25 GMT
I'm talking about off the ball movement when we have the ball. I talking about general movement when we don't have the ball.Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=Potters&thread=154068&page=3#2623288#ixzz1Gy5YVAN1i don't think your getting my point. yes fuller runs the channels, yes he can work hard closing down. I talking about general movement when we don't have the ball. Jones, Carew and Fuller are very static, they are what i would call reactive players, they wait for something to happen, and then react, i.e a cross into the box, a pass, a flick on. Walters is more a pro active player, he makes little runs, sometimes only 5 yards, but these create a little bit of space. I'm not saying he is the answer, and there have been occasions where he has looked poor, i think we need someone who is pro active but poses more of a goal threat. As it stands though i would put Walters in out strongest 11. I also think he get the best out of our wingers Make Your mind up! Sorry a typing mistake, i meant off the ball movement when we have the ball
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Post by toonguest on Mar 18, 2011 19:12:11 GMT
Hi, im a newcastle fan and I usually scour boards of rival teams before games mainly for another point of view and banter. If theres anything you want to know feel free to ask
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Post by knype on Mar 18, 2011 19:55:45 GMT
Hi, im a newcastle fan and I usually scour boards of rival teams before games mainly for another point of view and banter. If theres anything you want to know feel free to ask Why are a lot of your fans deluded?
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Post by toonguest on Mar 18, 2011 20:00:47 GMT
Hi, im a newcastle fan and I usually scour boards of rival teams before games mainly for another point of view and banter. If theres anything you want to know feel free to ask Why are a lot of your fans deluded? Is that why almost a 100% of us would of been happy with 17th place at the beggining of the season? Its a myth as I have never met anyone like that in my time as a newcastle fan.
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Post by musik on Mar 18, 2011 20:12:53 GMT
Stoke 2 - Newcastle 1 is my guess.
Fuller scores.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2011 20:15:24 GMT
Alright Toonguest, Iv a couple of questions,, Who would you like to sign out of stokes current squad? What do you think of stoke's fans? What do you think of stoke's style of play and Manager? Cheers
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Post by boothenender on Mar 18, 2011 20:21:14 GMT
toonguest..
who the fucking hell is it that cuts alan shearers hair...?
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Post by boothenender on Mar 18, 2011 20:24:51 GMT
if we play newcastle as we played west ham in league it will be 0-2 to them. if we play newcastle as we played west ham in the fa cup it will be 3-1 to us. lets hope that the wembley "carnival" does not distract us from the more important premiership survival.
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Post by toonguest on Mar 18, 2011 20:40:52 GMT
Alright Toonguest, Iv a couple of questions,, Who would you like to sign out of stokes current squad? What do you think of stoke's fans? What do you think of stoke's style of play and Manager? Cheers 1: Kenwyne Jones. Even though he is an ex Sunderland player he suits our style of play and could help fill the Andy Carroll role but of course that doesnt mean he is your BEST player but just the one newcastle could put to use the most. 2: To be honest I have no opinion on them, I know your renowned for you good atmosphere and so on. 3: I think Tony Pulis is a down to earth no nonsense manager and is a great tactician. Im not to sure on your style of play. I wouldnt say you depend highly on delap throw ins as less than 50% of your goals have came from them and nothing says you cant do it.
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Post by toonguest on Mar 18, 2011 20:42:42 GMT
toonguest.. who the fucking hell is it that cuts alan shearers hair...? Have not got a clue xD
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2011 20:57:05 GMT
Alright Toonguest, Iv a couple of questions,, Who would you like to sign out of stokes current squad? What do you think of stoke's fans? What do you think of stoke's style of play and Manager? Cheers 1: Kenwyne Jones. Even though he is an ex Sunderland player he suits our style of play and could help fill the Andy Carroll role but of course that doesnt mean he is your BEST player but just the one newcastle could put to use the most. 2: To be honest I have no opinion on them, I know your renowned for you good atmosphere and so on. 3: I think Tony Pulis is a down to earth no nonsense manager and is a great tactician. Im not to sure on your style of play. I wouldnt say you depend highly on delap throw ins as less than 50% of your goals have came from them and nothing says you cant do it. Cheers, you lot happy with your manager then?
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Post by toonguest on Mar 18, 2011 21:02:18 GMT
1: Kenwyne Jones. Even though he is an ex Sunderland player he suits our style of play and could help fill the Andy Carroll role but of course that doesnt mean he is your BEST player but just the one newcastle could put to use the most. 2: To be honest I have no opinion on them, I know your renowned for you good atmosphere and so on. 3: I think Tony Pulis is a down to earth no nonsense manager and is a great tactician. Im not to sure on your style of play. I wouldnt say you depend highly on delap throw ins as less than 50% of your goals have came from them and nothing says you cant do it. Cheers, you lot happy with your manager then? I wouldnt say happy, pleased is probably the right word. None us were happy to see Hughton leave but we all backed Pardew. Most are waiting till the transfer window to see if he uses that 35 mil good enough. If he does he'll win us over.
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Post by triffic on Mar 18, 2011 21:13:55 GMT
Just watched Sundays game again and we have to go with the same back 4, maybe deano in for rory and carew in for jones. We looked far better at the back with higgy and tommy there. Im hoping that the euphoria of last sunday is still with the players and we come out and av a right go at em tomorrow. Lets work ard and push on up the table and get them there 40 points !!
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