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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 5, 2011 19:16:10 GMT
How the hell do You know that? ;D Well, how DO you know that? I don't! That's my whole point! ;D ;D ;D ;D But what I do know is I'd rather see Tuncay on the left than Delap or Walters.
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Post by GrandStokie on Mar 5, 2011 19:16:33 GMT
We and Middlesbrough are not the only clubs to have found that Tuncay flatters to deceive. Wolfsburg lost 3-0 today and Tuncay did not even get off the bench. We were very very luck to get rid at the price we did. Just not good enough. Really! And the results are rolling in of course!!!
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Post by shep207 on Mar 5, 2011 19:17:28 GMT
Y'know what, shep207 is right, what kind of a team has creative players in it? If you look at the best teams in the world they have no flair or creativity! FFS [rolley eyes person] We have Pennant and Etherington, they are good for us. Tuncay was shit for us. What is the point you are trying to make? I said what is the use in flair and creativity if it doesn't help to win matches. Stop trying to twist what people say to suit your argument, it's what kids do..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 19:17:38 GMT
How the hell do You know that? ;D 'Cos he rarely altered any match in any way, shape or form other than making it look a bit more fancy.. Unlike JW who makes it look a bit more well championship.
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Post by shep207 on Mar 5, 2011 19:19:03 GMT
'Cos he rarely altered any match in any way, shape or form other than making it look a bit more fancy.. Unlike JW who makes it look a bit more well championship. I would rather it look Championship and work than look Champions League and not work thanks..
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Post by scfcrmagic on Mar 5, 2011 19:19:46 GMT
I agree 100% we seem to be lacking in so many areas !! No flair no imagination no Tunny !! ......He bought so much creativity and confidence, always felt the game went up a gear when he played !! I miss him
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Post by march4 on Mar 5, 2011 19:19:49 GMT
We lost every single Prem game Tuncay started this season bar one, we were knocked out of the League Cup and we could only draw with Cardiff.
He has gone to Germany and started with 3 successive defeats before being dumped to the Reserves.
Is this the same Tuncay that you are talking about, or is there a different one??
TP has 3 defenders on the bench and 3 more offensive players. The offensive players today were Ric, KJ & Ethers. So, I ask again who would Tuncay have replaced on the bench???????????
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 19:21:58 GMT
Unlike JW who makes it look a bit more well championship. I would rather it look Championship and work than look Champions League and not work thanks.. So you think looking championship is working then ??? never mind he should fit in nicely next season.
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Post by serpico on Mar 5, 2011 19:22:40 GMT
He would offer us something we currently don't have, and that is variety and the unpredictable factor, we are currently as predictable as the sun coming up in the morning, teams know what they have to do to combat us, there's no variation in our play, Tunny gave us that.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Mar 5, 2011 19:24:09 GMT
today 1st goal - what the fuck was bego doing? - Tunny wouldnt have altered that second goal - would have jumper less than walters did - wouldnt have altered that game over
as far as attacking was concerned, we tried to lump it forward, nothing, we played it along the wings and struggled beat the first man.... Tunny might have got the ball in a few times from the wing but i would rather see pennant or ethers there and day of the week.
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Post by shep207 on Mar 5, 2011 19:24:39 GMT
Yeah it's worked pretty well for the last 3 years I think..
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Post by march4 on Mar 5, 2011 19:24:44 GMT
He would offer us something we currently don't have, and that is variety and the unpredictable factor, we are currently as predictable as the sun coming up in the morning, teams know what they have to do to combat us, there's no variation in our play, Tunny gave us that. I agree Serps, but the point I made was that TP wouldn't even have had him on the bench for the last 2 games due to the other options.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 19:26:14 GMT
We lost every single Prem game Tuncay started this season bar one, we were knocked out of the League Cup and we could only draw with Cardiff. He has gone to Germany and started with 3 successive defeats before being dumped to the Reserves. Is this the same Tuncay that you are talking about, or is there a different one?? TP has 3 defenders on the bench and 3 more offensive players. The offensive players today were Ric, KJ & Ethers. So, I ask again who would Tuncay have replaced on the bench??????????? He should have been in the fucking team let alone on the bench, Rory Delap on the wing FFS, as for the bench he must be a better option than that £8 mill waster Pulis has brought in.
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Post by french toast on Mar 5, 2011 19:29:19 GMT
Obly because pulis doesnt want to play ric, sold one flair forward and doesnt want to use the other Selling him and not replacing him has proven to be the wrong decision.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 5, 2011 19:30:18 GMT
He would offer us something we currently don't have, and that is variety and the unpredictable factor, we are currently as predictable as the sun coming up in the morning, teams know what they have to do to combat us, there's no variation in our play, Tunny gave us that. I agree Serps, but the point I made was that TP wouldn't even have had him on the bench for the last 2 games due to the other options. March you have no idea what kind of impact Tuncay could have made, and you have no idea whether Pulis would have included him in the team. Stop pretending to think like Pulis, its becoming tiresome. You know full well Tuncay was a great option for us to have in the team. You also know that today was another very dull performance lacking any kind of spark you would hope for from a premier league team. You also must be aware that we are experiencing a very poor run of performances at the moment. And finally, you must be aware that this negative mindset week in week out is doing us no favours at this stage in the season.
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Post by shep207 on Mar 5, 2011 19:30:46 GMT
No one is saying we shouldn't have back up for Etherington, but Tuncay was definitely not the answer. Everyone just wants to have fancy players in our team regardless of whether it works or not. The amount of shit that gets posted about Walters on here is unreal when you compare it to the Tuncay love-in, especially as Walters is much more effective for us, works just as hard as Tuncay and scores more goals.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 19:31:19 GMT
Yeah it's worked pretty well for the last 3 years I think.. Wake up it ain't working anymore, we need to improve push on I belive was the quote from TP !, selling your better players and replacing them with inferior ones is not the answer. SIMPLES!
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Post by shep207 on Mar 5, 2011 19:31:49 GMT
I agree Serps, but the point I made was that TP wouldn't even have had him on the bench for the last 2 games due to the other options. March you have no idea what kind of impact Tuncay could have made, and you have no idea whether Pulis would have included him in the team. Stop pretending to think like Pulis, its becoming tiresome. You know full well Tuncay was a great option for us to have in the team. You also know that today was another very dull performance lacking any kind of spark you would hope for from a premier league team. You also must be aware that we are experiencing a very poor run of performances at the moment. And finally, you must be aware that this negative mindset week in week out is doing us no favours at this stage in the season. Just because you think Tuncay was a great option for us doesn't mean everyone else has to.
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Post by hoofit on Mar 5, 2011 19:33:47 GMT
We lost every single Prem game Tuncay started this season bar one, we were knocked out of the League Cup and we could only draw with Cardiff. He has gone to Germany and started with 3 successive defeats before being dumped to the Reserves. Is this the same Tuncay that you are talking about, or is there a different one?? TP has 3 defenders on the bench and 3 more offensive players. The offensive players today were Ric, KJ & Ethers. So, I ask again who would Tuncay have replaced on the bench??????????? How canyou mention the Cardiff game? Yeah we drew with them, but why was it a draw and not a loss?....because that bloke scored...erm whats his name....er, oh yeah Tuncay.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 5, 2011 19:34:06 GMT
March you have no idea what kind of impact Tuncay could have made, and you have no idea whether Pulis would have included him in the team. Stop pretending to think like Pulis, its becoming tiresome. You know full well Tuncay was a great option for us to have in the team. You also know that today was another very dull performance lacking any kind of spark you would hope for from a premier league team. You also must be aware that we are experiencing a very poor run of performances at the moment. And finally, you must be aware that this negative mindset week in week out is doing us no favours at this stage in the season. Just because you think Tuncay was a great option for us doesn't mean everyone else has to. I am talking about things that are as blatant as anything you will ever see. I respect you have your own views March but i honestly dont believe that you believe what you are saying half of the time. Come on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 5, 2011 19:34:50 GMT
Obly because pulis doesnt want to play ric, sold one flair forward and doesnt want to use the other Selling him and not replacing him has proven to be the wrong decision. ....and we have no back up for the wing. It's a massive balls up, compounded by other strange decisions as You have kindly pointed out.
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Post by serpico on Mar 5, 2011 19:35:28 GMT
I really can't think of a good reason as to why he was allowed to leave in january, in the summer yes, but not in january, in retrospect it was a crazy decision, to even have him in the squad would have been a huge benefit to us, even if he wanted to go, we could have held on to him till the summer, we paid his wages, he was our player, nobody held a gun to TP's head and we owed Tunny no favours.
TP really has had a nightmare january.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 5, 2011 19:35:31 GMT
We lost every single Prem game Tuncay started this season bar one, we were knocked out of the League Cup and we could only draw with Cardiff. He has gone to Germany and started with 3 successive defeats before being dumped to the Reserves. Is this the same Tuncay that you are talking about, or is there a different one?? TP has 3 defenders on the bench and 3 more offensive players. The offensive players today were Ric, KJ & Ethers. So, I ask again who would Tuncay have replaced on the bench??????????? How canyou mention the Cardiff game? Yeah we drew with them, but why was it a draw and not a loss?....because that bloke scored...erm whats his name....er, oh yeah Tuncay. This is the kind of behaviour from March that is just baffling. He mentions a game in which Tuncay single handedly kept us in the cup....yet singles out this man as a reason we did not win the match. Pretty warped view if you dont mind me saying...
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Post by french toast on Mar 5, 2011 19:41:51 GMT
Pugh would be a better left winger than tunny imho Obly because pulis doesnt want to play ric, sold one flair forward and doesnt want to use the other ....and we have no back up for the wing. It's a massive balls up, compounded by other strange decisions as You have kindly pointed out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 19:45:46 GMT
Pugh would be a better left winger than tunny imho ....and we have no back up for the wing. It's a massive balls up, compounded by other strange decisions as You have kindly pointed out. What a strange thought, oh well probably better than he is at fullback and to be fair he couldn't be any slower than our plan b Rory Delap carthorsing down the line.
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Post by march4 on Mar 5, 2011 19:49:49 GMT
I agree Serps, but the point I made was that TP wouldn't even have had him on the bench for the last 2 games due to the other options. March you have no idea what kind of impact Tuncay could have made, and you have no idea whether Pulis would have included him in the team. Stop pretending to think like Pulis, its becoming tiresome. You know full well Tuncay was a great option for us to have in the team. You also know that today was another very dull performance lacking any kind of spark you would hope for from a premier league team. You also must be aware that we are experiencing a very poor run of performances at the moment. And finally, you must be aware that this negative mindset week in week out is doing us no favours at this stage in the season. Negative mindset - have you read all your posts. I am the one supporting the club and the manager, not moaning that we somehow got £5M for a fringe player who has already been dropped by his new club. For the record, I would not have sold Tuncay until the summer. As I said on another post, let's getting the moaning done tonight and then concentrate on roaring the team to Wembley and a top half finish in the Prem. Together, we can make this the best season in our entire history.
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Post by stokiehad on Mar 5, 2011 19:51:26 GMT
same here, he defo would of made a difference today.. not good signs
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Post by heavysoul on Mar 5, 2011 20:14:07 GMT
Tuncay did not meet Pulis's standards- he could actually play football. We are far better off with Jones and Carew whose sole purpose is to run around the pitch like chickens with their heads cut off. Sadly this style seems to have rubbed off on Fuller too. Only 4 points from the drop now - Pulis's bush league type of play will land us back in the championship sooner than later. Jones run ?
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Post by serpico on Mar 5, 2011 20:16:25 GMT
who would you prefer out wide ? Tunny or Delap ?
end of argument, good night.
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Post by march4 on Mar 5, 2011 20:20:01 GMT
who would you prefer out wide ? Tunny or Delap ? end of argument, good night. Delap should never play anywhere other than in the middle.
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