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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2011 22:53:05 GMT
What does Pulis expect from the fans?
£40 a ticket, £20 for travel, plus time and expense for drink and food - for what?
The only positive from tonight was Pulis getting the result he asked for. That is what he wanted.
I feel so ashamed and angry for the fans that shelled out the time and money to see that tonight. I have a lot of respect for those fans that have the philosophy "I support no matter what" but I have to admit I don't fall into that category.
How on earth Pulis can expect Stokies to shell out hard earned cash and time for that I'll never know.
We went there scared, negative and asking to lose.
The warning signs were there first half and he refused to act. I said to my mate at half time "Pulis will be happy he's got in nil nil at half time. He will think it's working" and it blatantly wasn't.
I can accept defeat if we give it a go.
To lie down and bend over is unacceptable.
I spoke to Cilla after the game and he was gutted.
What is Tony so scared of?
We were getting battered, with a shit negative set up, we were losing ....... first sub on.....Rory fucking Delap.
I hope you sleep well tonight Tony.
An apology wouldn't go amiss to the fans that shelled out there hard earned cash and time to support that pile of shit.
I won't hold my breath.
WD
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 2, 2011 22:55:17 GMT
It's almost worth the loss just to see you pissed off, you bastard. No matter how equally pissed off I am, it amuses me to think of you in the same situation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2011 22:56:42 GMT
It's almost worth the loss just to see you pissed off, you bastard. No matter how equally pissed off I am, it amuses me to think of you in the same situation. Seriously fucked off mate. That was embarrassing. You could write it the second you saw the starting line up, the subs and how we set up. Pulis asked to lose that fucking game and I dare anyone to give me an argument that says otherwise.
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Post by jonnyd on Feb 2, 2011 22:59:06 GMT
I will - I think he set up to draw the game
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 2, 2011 22:59:23 GMT
looks like we will be in the bottom 3 by the end of march
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Post by ruts66 on Feb 2, 2011 23:00:36 GMT
Hard to argue with that WD, what on God's earth has happened in Pulisworld to regress back to this utter shite.
How good were we in the corresponding fixture? Then this, again.
Utter headfuck...
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Post by madpotter on Feb 2, 2011 23:03:39 GMT
What summed it up was whenever carew got the ball, there was no one even close to him, it was embarrassing, why the don't we play our best team? We battered them at home took them apart yet we see diao sat in front of the back 4 constantly giving the ball away, absouloutley shite, that team tonight was so negative it was unbelievable our 2 attacking players carew and pennant looked lonely figures out there tonight, any anyone who even thinks Walters is good enough is deluded, I agree we were resting players for Sunderland, but still there was no need for playing that team. Let's hope for a good team and result on sat.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 2, 2011 23:04:21 GMT
I can tolerate the starting line-up because it worked for 46 minutes. It did the job it set out to do. There should have been no messing after the goal though - Delap, Fuller and Etherington all on the pitch as soon as possible. I suppose that doesn't account for the Faye injury, but as much as it pains me to say it, Faye has been doing that trick for a long time and if the management team are aware of an injury that will force him off whilst they have three game changers (who should have started) on the bench, then it should have been Collins who started. People know my position on Collins, but there's always a possibility that he could have gone 90 minutes without giving away a goal. Let's get back to what we know works best against Sunderland and show some intent. I am right in assuming Shawcross will be suspended again? Begovic
Wilkinson Huth Higginbotham Collins
Pennant Delap Whitehead Etherington
Jones/Carew
Fuller We need a good result to lift the mood.
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Post by kong on Feb 2, 2011 23:09:34 GMT
It's almost worth the loss just to see you pissed off, you bastard. No matter how equally pissed off I am, it amuses me to think of you in the same situation. Seriously fucked off mate. That was embarrassing. You could write it the second you saw the starting line up, the subs and how we set up. Pulis asked to lose that fucking game and I dare anyone to give me an argument that says otherwise. Pulis never intentional sets out to lose, what he does is look at the bigger picture and decide how best to acquire points and how to do the best for stoke city football club! We could have gone there all blazing, best 11, really go for it attitude and wud still probably have gotten beat! Pulis couldn't give a shit about our money or time! Only about making stoke city the best we can be! In his mind, 3 games in 6 days means he cant start his best 11 in all 3! he went for a point tonight! fair play he didn't get it! if he wins against sunderland (and with his best 11 which will start i fully expect us to) then all will be forgotten! 4 points from these 2 games would have got 2 thumbs up from basically every stoke fan on here! i know its horrible to spend money and see tripe... weave all bin there and done it on so many occasions! but unfortunately thats part and parcel of being a football supporter! the lows make the highs worth while! So your low now.. we all are... bring on Saturday with renewed hope and optimism!
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Post by anarchicalan on Feb 2, 2011 23:12:16 GMT
What does Pulis expect from the fans?£40 a ticket, £20 for travel, plus time and expense for drink and food - for what? The only positive from tonight was Pulis getting the result he asked for. That is what he wanted. I feel so ashamed and angry for the fans that shelled out the time and money to see that tonight. I have a lot of respect for those fans that have the philosophy "I support no matter what" but I have to admit I don't fall into that category. How on earth Pulis can expect Stokies to shell out hard earned cash and time for that I'll never know. We went there scared, negative and asking to lose. The warning signs were there first half and he refused to act. I said to my mate at half time "Pulis will be happy he's got in nil nil at half time. He will think it's working" and it blatantly wasn't. I can accept defeat if we give it a go. To lie down and bend over is unacceptable. I spoke to Cilla after the game and he was gutted. What is Tony so scared of? We were getting battered, with a shit negative set up, we were losing ....... first sub on.....Rory fucking Delap. I hope you sleep well tonight Tony. An apology wouldn't go amiss to the fans that shelled out there hard earned cash and time to support that pile of shit. I won't hold my breath. WD He doesn't care about the fans! He's never cared about us. he only cares about his poxy reputation of never being relegated.
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Feb 2, 2011 23:14:35 GMT
I can tolerate the starting line-up because it worked for 46 minutes. It did the job it set out to do. There should have been no messing after the goal though - Delap, Fuller and Etherington all on the pitch as soon as possible. I suppose that doesn't account for the Faye injury, but as much as it pains me to say it, Faye has been doing that trick for a long time and if the management team are aware of an injury that will force him off whilst they have three game changers (who should have started) on the bench, then it should have been Collins who started. People know my position on Collins, but there's always a possibility that he could have gone 90 minutes without giving away a goal. Let's get back to what we know works best against Sunderland and show some intent. I am right in assuming Shawcross will be suspended again? Begovic
Wilkinson Huth Higginbotham Collins
Pennant Delap Whitehead Etherington
Jones/Carew
Fuller We need a good result to lift the mood. Shawcross' was a 2 game ban mate.
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Feb 2, 2011 23:16:16 GMT
I have never wanted to say this before ever but after tonight, fuck off pulls!!! Never have I seen TP sit on his arse for 90 minutes like he did tonight and just want our bellys tickled, from the second i saw the team I just knew what was coming, utter garbage, Walters on the left, diao near the pitch nevermind on it and ethers not even on, I could stomach us losing and having a go but fuck me how spineless we looked against a bang average Lpool side was ridiculous.
I have missed 3 away games this season and when I shouted in injury time "we deserve better pulis" some guy turned and said "well don't fucking bother coming then we're enjoying it". Had a fall out and walked on, typical, Liverpool were shit n we didn't even try.
Saturday we MUST start RIc, he looked good wen he came on.
Not a happy Cilla!!'
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 2, 2011 23:17:48 GMT
I can tolerate the starting line-up because it worked for 46 minutes. It did the job it set out to do. There should have been no messing after the goal though - Delap, Fuller and Etherington all on the pitch as soon as possible. I suppose that doesn't account for the Faye injury, but as much as it pains me to say it, Faye has been doing that trick for a long time and if the management team are aware of an injury that will force him off whilst they have three game changers (who should have started) on the bench, then it should have been Collins who started. People know my position on Collins, but there's always a possibility that he could have gone 90 minutes without giving away a goal. Let's get back to what we know works best against Sunderland and show some intent. I am right in assuming Shawcross will be suspended again? Begovic
Wilkinson Huth Higginbotham Collins
Pennant Delap Whitehead Etherington
Jones/Carew
Fuller We need a good result to lift the mood. Shawcross' was a 2 game ban mate. Oh hang on, we're including the cup, aren't we? Change that back-line to Wilkinson - Huth - Shawcross - Higginbotham then. I'm not used to us getting so far in the cup, obviously
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 2, 2011 23:18:17 GMT
Seriously fucked off mate. That was embarrassing. You could write it the second you saw the starting line up, the subs and how we set up. Pulis asked to lose that fucking game and I dare anyone to give me an argument that says otherwise. Pulis never intentional sets out to lose, what he does is look at the bigger picture and decide how best to acquire points and how to do the best for stoke city football club! We could have gone there all blazing, best 11, really go for it attitude and would still probably have gotten beat! Pulis couldn't give a shit about our money or time! Only about making stoke city the best we can be! In his mind, 3 games in 6 days means he cant start his best 11 in all 3! he went for a point tonight! fair play he didn't get it! if he wins against sunderland (and with his best 11 which will start i fully expect us to) then all will be forgotten! 4 points from these 2 games would have got 2 thumbs up from basically every stoke fan on here! i know its horrible to spend money and see tripe... weave all bin there and done it on so many occasions! but unfortunately thats part and parcel of being a football supporter! the lows make the highs worth while! So your low now.. we all are... bring on Saturday with renewed hope and optimism! I suppose that makes Saturday a massive game for Pulis in the eyes of SCFC supporters. If we don't win or put in a performance I suspect that a few thousand fans will make him aware of their feelings.
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 2, 2011 23:26:49 GMT
It's almost worth the loss just to see you pissed off, you bastard. No matter how equally pissed off I am, it amuses me to think of you in the same situation. Seriously fucked off mate. That was embarrassing. You could write it the second you saw the starting line up, the subs and how we set up. Pulis asked to lose that fucking game and I dare anyone to give me an argument that says otherwise. I texted my mate the line up in a pub in Liverpool and he thought i was taking the piss .
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Post by kong on Feb 2, 2011 23:29:07 GMT
Pulis never intentional sets out to lose, what he does is look at the bigger picture and decide how best to acquire points and how to do the best for stoke city football club! We could have gone there all blazing, best 11, really go for it attitude and would still probably have gotten beat! Pulis couldn't give a shit about our money or time! Only about making stoke city the best we can be! In his mind, 3 games in 6 days means he cant start his best 11 in all 3! he went for a point tonight! fair play he didn't get it! if he wins against sunderland (and with his best 11 which will start i fully expect us to) then all will be forgotten! 4 points from these 2 games would have got 2 thumbs up from basically every stoke fan on here! i know its horrible to spend money and see tripe... weave all bin there and done it on so many occasions! but unfortunately thats part and parcel of being a football supporter! the lows make the highs worth while! So your low now.. we all are... bring on Saturday with renewed hope and optimism! I suppose that makes Saturday a massive game for Pulis in the eyes of SCFC supporters. If we don't win or put in a performance I suspect that a few thousand fans will make him aware of their feelings. thats entirely the point, the weakend line up from tonight will enable pulis to put a side out that will not only perform but will probably win! had we started with the gung ho approach tonight, we wud pronely still have lost and wud have gone into sunderland with a fuller/ethers/jones/rory (still a really important player) not at 100% and a potential 4 points turns into a 1 or even a none! tp knows what hes doing, hes paid very well to do it! and he does better than any manger weave had since iv been going, he certainly knows better than all of us, moaning our bollox of because we went to liverpool...FUCKING LIVERPOOL and set up not to concede! stoke fans need get a grip!
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Post by stokelad84 on Feb 2, 2011 23:30:09 GMT
WD, are you the new Tony? With a paragraph for every sentence.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Feb 2, 2011 23:31:49 GMT
Kong
Your post is the most sense I have seen on here in a long time, they just don't get the bigger picture, well said
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Post by Groundhog Day on Feb 2, 2011 23:35:48 GMT
I suppose that makes Saturday a massive game for Pulis in the eyes of SCFC supporters. If we don't win or put in a performance I suspect that a few thousand fans will make him aware of their feelings. thats entirely the point, the weakend line up from tonight will enable pulis to put a side out that will not only perform but will probably win! had we started with the gung ho approach tonight, we would pronely still have lost and would have gone into sunderland with a fuller/ethers/jones/rory (still a really important player) not at 100% and a potential 4 points turns into a 1 or even a none! tp knows what hes doing, hes paid very well to do it! and he does better than any manger weave had since iv been going, he certainly knows better than all of us, moaning our bollox of because we went to liverpool...FUCKING LIVERPOOL and set up not to concede! stoke fans need get a grip! That really is the biggest crock of shit i've ever heard.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2011 23:35:49 GMT
I can tolerate the starting line-up because it worked for 46 minutes. It did the job it set out to do. Are you serious? We did nothing for those 46 minutes. Begovic made a world class save and they had other chances too. They dicked us for 46 minutes. The system did not work. Just because they didn't convert their chances whilst they were dicking us does not mean our system was working. We owe an apology to the fans that made the effort to go tonight. Fuck knows Tony didn't.
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Post by MrMagic on Feb 2, 2011 23:36:12 GMT
Kong Your post is the most sense I have seen on here in a long time, they just don't get the bigger picture, well said You reckon we're going to turn over Sunderland on Sat? I admire your optimism. Where are they in the league BTW?
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Post by kong on Feb 2, 2011 23:41:57 GMT
Kong Your post is the most sense I have seen on here in a long time, they just don't get the bigger picture, well said You reckon we're going to turn over Sunderland on Sat? I admire your optimism. Where are they in the league BTW? stoke are more than a match for anyone at home! i really ain't joking when i say id take Barcelona at home! we might not win! but wed give them a game at home! sunderland... fucking sunderland, with no welbeck or bent....i fancy us! fuller now playing for either a big contract of us at the end of the year or off sum1 else will be on fire for the second half of the year! mark my words! same for carew! hes got more about him than any of you give him credit for! In TP i trust!
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 2, 2011 23:43:00 GMT
I can tolerate the starting line-up because it worked for 46 minutes. It did the job it set out to do. Are you serious? We did nothing for those 46 minutes. Begovic made a world class save and they had other chances too. They dicked us for 46 minutes. The system did not work. Just because they didn't convert their chances whilst they were dicking us does not mean our system was working. We owe an apology to the fans that made the effort to go tonight. Fuck knows Tony didn't. We set out to stop them scoring and to do nothing. Sad as it is, that's what we did and it worked for those 46 minutes. You could even argue that we were unlucky to concede from a free-kick that should never have been. It was an obvious dive. We didn't respond quickly enough to the goal, at any rate. Whether or not we SHOULD have set up like that is a different matter. I would have set up exactly how we did against them earlier in the season, closing down their defenders at every opportunity and forcing them to play it long, where Huth and Higgy could gobble it up. Two wingers, a balanced strike partnership, our best central midfield partnership of Delap and Whitehead (with Whitehead hopefully putting in a top class display like in the reverse fixture earlier in the season) and Liverpool under the cosh. Must have been better than what we got, surely?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2011 23:52:20 GMT
I suppose that makes Saturday a massive game for Pulis in the eyes of SCFC supporters. If we don't win or put in a performance I suspect that a few thousand fans will make him aware of their feelings. thats entirely the point, the weakend line up from tonight will enable pulis to put a side out that will not only perform but will probably win! had we started with the gung ho approach tonight, we would pronely still have lost and would have gone into sunderland with a fuller/ethers/jones/rory (still a really important player) not at 100% and a potential 4 points turns into a 1 or even a none! tp knows what hes doing, hes paid very well to do it! and he does better than any manger weave had since iv been going, he certainly knows better than all of us, moaning our bollox of because we went to liverpool...FUCKING LIVERPOOL and set up not to concede! stoke fans need get a grip! Did you go? Did you spend a shit load of money on watching a team totally devoid of ambition and craft against a mediocre Liverpool team that were there for the taking. Pulis has spent a lot of money and is still toatlly fuckin neagtive. Don't tell me to get a grip I'm fuckin furious!!!
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 2, 2011 23:53:23 GMT
I suppose that makes Saturday a massive game for Pulis in the eyes of SCFC supporters. If we don't win or put in a performance I suspect that a few thousand fans will make him aware of their feelings. thats entirely the point, the weakend line up from tonight will enable pulis to put a side out that will not only perform but will probably win! had we started with the gung ho approach tonight, we would pronely still have lost and would have gone into sunderland with a fuller/ethers/jones/rory (still a really important player) not at 100% and a potential 4 points turns into a 1 or even a none! tp knows what hes doing, hes paid very well to do it! and he does better than any manger weave had since iv been going, he certainly knows better than all of us, moaning our bollox of because we went to liverpool...FUCKING LIVERPOOL and set up not to concede! stoke fans need get a grip! As I said... and you obviously agree.... the proof of the matter will be on Saturday If we win, the selection tonight by Pulis will be partly justified (except for those poor buuggers that went) but if we lose ...then Pulis will deserve all he gets. Do you agree?
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Post by Roy Cropper on Feb 2, 2011 23:58:07 GMT
WD, are you the new Tony? With a paragraph for every sentence. Why don't you add something constructive Stokelad?
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Post by mistersausage on Feb 2, 2011 23:58:34 GMT
Chances are it will be KJ/Carew and Walters up front with Rik on the bench where Tuncay used to st.
I honestly believe Sunderland will beat us, wish I didn't but we will be nervy and they will take advantage.
Hope not though or I'd expect Coates will bear witness to the first rumblings of discontent.
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Post by robboc on Feb 3, 2011 0:00:01 GMT
There for the taking? You're deluded. They've not lost in the last 4 games and just spent 22.7 million and 35 million on another played. Stoke are a small club who have average players but have to make the lost of it.
As for people complaining about the cost.... If you choose to pay £40 for a game it was pretty evident we would play a weakened team in then its up to you. The prices in the Premiership are ridiculous and that's mainly because people keep on paying them. You don't see the Germans agreeing to pay these stupid prices do you or paying stupid prices for cars like we do.
I think people need to return to reality. I'm sure everyone will be happy when we finally get relegated and we can blame somebody for that as well.
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Post by kong on Feb 3, 2011 0:04:11 GMT
thats entirely the point, the weakend line up from tonight will enable pulis to put a side out that will not only perform but will probably win! had we started with the gung ho approach tonight, we would pronely still have lost and would have gone into sunderland with a fuller/ethers/jones/rory (still a really important player) not at 100% and a potential 4 points turns into a 1 or even a none! tp knows what hes doing, hes paid very well to do it! and he does better than any manger weave had since iv been going, he certainly knows better than all of us, moaning our bollox of because we went to liverpool...FUCKING LIVERPOOL and set up not to concede! stoke fans need get a grip! As I said... and you obviously agree.... the proof of the matter will be on Saturday If we win, the selection tonight by Pulis will be partly justified (except for those poor buuggers that went) but if we lose ...then Pulis will deserve all he gets. Do you agree? pulis has done nothing but prove people wrong since day 1 at this club! i exspect no different on saturday! and if we loose fair play hell get stick, but tbh hes getting stick regardless, some people are never happy! there have been those who have wanted him out regardless since day 1! he pisses me off a lot of the time dont get me wrong, but he is the reason i nolong have to watch football at halifax and rochdale and northampton! im forever greatfull! they were shit days!
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Post by rigsby on Feb 3, 2011 0:05:12 GMT
I will - I think he set up to draw the game He set up to lose by no more than 2 goals to nil. Job done for him unfortunately.
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