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Post by j3st3r on Feb 1, 2011 14:42:41 GMT
Didn't slag us off too badly but just said there were mutiple reasons why it didnt work at Stoke, but first and foremost he didn't agree with our style of play and wasn't given the opportunity to adapt to it.....
Glad he's gone as he was costing us cash and we were getting no benefit from him but can't help feeling that he was pretty badly treated by TP. Irrelvant to any dressing room disagreements, he's a proven prem player with class and should have been given more of a chance imho....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2011 14:44:01 GMT
We signed Eidur Gudjohnsen? When? I forgot!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 14:44:08 GMT
Bit like Beattie in my opinion, used to be a decent prem player but lacked fitness & pace.
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Post by misteroatcake on Feb 1, 2011 14:45:36 GMT
More of a chance to be more crap than he already was?
If he does any good at Fulham, I'll happily hold my hands up and admit I was wrong, but too old, slow and unfit by my reckoning.
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Post by serpico on Feb 1, 2011 14:45:42 GMT
We've pretty much paid him to get fit and then loaned him out he looks in pretty good shape now.
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Post by Paddypotter on Feb 1, 2011 14:45:52 GMT
It seems our style not only put EG & Tunny off, but also any potential replacements.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Feb 1, 2011 14:47:11 GMT
I think he's lost an hunger he had for the game. It seems strange really that we spent so long on deadline day trying to sign him only for him to make a handful of appearences.
TP was obviously not impressed with what he saw in training to risk playing him. Coupled with the lack of reserve games.
For me its going to go down as a real bizarre transfer and one I hope will not bite us in the arse only time will tell. Will be interesting to see if he gets some playing time for Fulham or just fades into obscurity.
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Post by foxyscfc on Feb 1, 2011 14:50:30 GMT
To be honest he will probably be the first name on the team sheet at fulham
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Post by Binndy on Feb 1, 2011 14:51:33 GMT
Did he say we still paying his wages cause we are. He is still a stoke player
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Post by fortressbritannia on Feb 1, 2011 14:55:06 GMT
S it has been well documented on here Eidur has a massive gambling problem. The club offered to help Eidur out by taking control of his finances, working out a plan to help repay his debts they did the same with Etherington. Eidur rejected this and is still racking up massive debts that the reason why it hasn't worked out for him and I doubt the debts will get any easier in London
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Post by lew86 on Feb 1, 2011 14:57:29 GMT
He was quite composed in the interview he had yesterday when asked about him his relationship with stoke and said (what seemed to be through gritted teeth) 'No, stoke is a wonderful club'.
Will be VERY interesting to see how he gets on down at that wanky plastic club Fulham.
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Post by Binndy on Feb 1, 2011 15:00:24 GMT
we are too nice as a club. Matty shows his appreciation by playing to the best of his ability, it seems sadly that Eidur is along way off tackling his problem.
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 1, 2011 15:04:18 GMT
think the fight with fuller didnt help
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Post by jonnynico on Feb 1, 2011 15:08:24 GMT
He was quite composed in the interview he had yesterday when asked about him his relationship with stoke and said (what seemed to be through gritted teeth) 'No, stoke is a wonderful club'. Will be VERY interesting to see how he gets on down at that wanky plastic club Fulham. That wanky plastic club have beaten us twice this season, quite easily.
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Post by bettsy on Feb 1, 2011 15:09:41 GMT
It seems our style not only put EG & Tunny off, but also any potential replacements. very good post and if i was eidur i would have no hesitation in taying, pulis treated me and tunny in an appalling manner, i wouldn't treat a dog how he treated us
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Post by gingist on Feb 1, 2011 15:19:27 GMT
Sadly, Eidur allowed himself to get overweight and grossly unfit. His embarrassing performance at West Ham showed why he didn't play for Stoke again.
He can argue the semantics of style of play but there hasn't yet been a style of play devised to accommodate a player who is too unit, or unwilling, to run.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Feb 1, 2011 15:23:14 GMT
He will go on a free at the end of the season..his contract is up. A couple of million pounds spent for 100 minutes of footy. Whoever ratified signing him wants sacking.
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Post by Coll40 on Feb 1, 2011 15:23:29 GMT
It seems our style not only put EG & Tunny off, but also any potential replacements. Spot on. If interviews with a number of potential players took place in a room, I can imagine TP saying something like this. "Full backs, you must be able to kick a ball 40 yards, straight onto Kenwyne's head. Strikers, you must be able to head the ball from free kicks and corners. Also, a few headers from Kenwyne will fall to you, then you must hit it at the goal - no fancy shit, just hit it. Midfielders, you are our first line of defense. Unless you can jump 20 feet in the air, you won't be involved in attacking too much, as the ball will mostly be flying over your heads. If you DO find the ball at your feet, get it onto Kenwyne's head, or if thats not possible, play it wide to the wingers, so that on Goals on Sunday, Kammy can say 'Stoke are more than just the long ball' now and again. Wingers, get down the wings and cross the ball onto Kenwyne's head. If you can't, give the defender just enough room to get a toe in to put it out for a throw, so that Rory can get it onto Kenwyne's head. Right - any questions ?" Kempy - "Err - they've all fucked off boss"
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Post by stokerambler on Feb 1, 2011 15:24:25 GMT
I don't know what to make of the Gudjohnson thing. It was all bells and whistles when he arrived, a marquee signing and all that. When he did get game time in the autumn he looked woefully off the pace. That he spent much of his time at Monaco on the bench prior to coming to Stoke suggested something was not quite right but yet he went on loan to Spurs while at Monaco and did well. If he sparks into life at Fulham then we have to ask ourselves why.
If it were just Gudjohnson then I'd write it off but we keep buying strikers and then things don't work out. Beattie, Kitson, Gudjohnson and Tuncay, all bought within the last couple of years, all have had problems and all are now gone.
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Post by labyrinth on Feb 1, 2011 15:26:37 GMT
People that fail always like to blame others for their failings. Pretty sure it's nothing to do with our style of play but more that he couldn't keep up with our players when they do play.
Widely known and accepted how high the fitness levels of a Stoke player are.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Feb 1, 2011 15:28:43 GMT
I don't know what to make of the Gudjohnson thing. It was all bells and whistles when he arrived, a marquee signing and all that. When he did get game time in the autumn he looked woefully off the pace. That he spent much of his time at Monaco on the bench prior to coming to Stoke suggested something was not quite right but yet he went on loan to Spurs while at Monaco and did well. If he sparks into life at Fulham then we have to ask ourselves why. If it were just Gudjohnson then I'd write it off but we keep buying strikers and then things don't work out. Beattie, Kitson, Gudjohnson and Tuncay, all bought within the last couple of years, all have had problems and all are now gone All were footballers rather than big lump target men...?
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 1, 2011 15:30:22 GMT
I don't know what to make of the Gudjohnson thing. If it were just Gudjohnson then I'd write it off but we keep buying strikers and then things don't work out. Beattie, Kitson, Gudjohnson and Tuncay, all bought within the last couple of years, all have had problems and all are now gone. None of them are as good as Mama apparently.
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Post by Mr Wheeze on Feb 1, 2011 15:38:38 GMT
Genuine question....
What style of football were Bolton playing in his days there?
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Post by mozzer68 on Feb 1, 2011 15:40:25 GMT
It's very easy to blame the style of play for your own shortcomings Fact. He knew our style of play when he joined Fact. He was well over weight when he joined Fact. He has shown no commitment on the field when he has played.
Now he has gone to Fulham he is in better shape & it makes us look bad & that he has been managed badly.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 1, 2011 15:40:53 GMT
Let's see how he performs at Fulham. It's worth remembering that he hasn't really performed for anybody for a couple of years now.
It's a shame. When I saw him against us for Tottenham he showed that he was a surprisingly strong player who could have worked well as the target man. Disappointing that it didn't work out.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 1, 2011 15:42:14 GMT
I don't know why we signed him and to be honest Kenwynne Jones is heading that way too....he wants a rocket up his arse!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 15:42:53 GMT
he should have been given more of a chance
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Post by Binndy on Feb 1, 2011 15:51:52 GMT
Hoofing the ball up the field to lumps at the front and delap throwins does work for stoke city and no it is not going to suit every player and so we may be restricted in who we can buy and have made some bad decisions. It a style of play and stoke city are not of lesser ability than those teams who are more of a passing team. we have won most of them.so to say he does not agree with our style of play was RUDE.Sadly he seems to living in his past glory and very sadly not the issues he has in his life now.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 1, 2011 15:53:40 GMT
New players need a run in the side to get used to different styles of play. He was never given the chance. Kitson, beattie, tuncay, bothroyd, ameobi, and gudjohnsen can't all be bad players.
The common denominator is our manager.
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Post by stokemark on Feb 1, 2011 15:55:01 GMT
The bottom line is TP's decision to get rid of Tuncay and Eidur, how the two of them get on and where we finish in the table and the Cup will only be properly judged at the end of the season.
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