Come back Carl H all is forgiven

[Thank you from Moorlander1]

n01stokie said:

get over him ffs he had a good game yesterday, but according to many wba fans he has been a major dissapointment, he wasn't that good you know!!!

Grow up man we are in the main all adult,we know he is gone,was a simple truthful comment about the guys ability. If the true story why Carl left was made public, the fans would be in an uproar.

[Birchesheadpotter]

Sportsman
Jesus Christ 'valuable experiance' at what!? He fucks up vitually every stupid jink or turn he make in our fucking penalty area! Composures great if your good enough to get away with it, but Griffins got 1 foot for gods sake

What do you want from Dickinson exactly? To copy Griff and just stand off someone all the way down the line and let them get the cross in? Or give up tackling just so you can stay nice and calm sitting there eating your fuckin pie?

Its a fucking good job Dicko flew in for some aggressive tackles against Castle because if Griffin was available N'zogbia and Duff would a have had a friggin field day

[thebigmalbowski]

"Who the fuck decided the moderators shouldn't have an opinion?

The moderators seem to be a pet subject of yours. Care to enlighten us as to why?"

When did i say you cant have an opinion???

I thought as moderators of this board you were supposed to be impartial.

however god forbid anyone that doesnt agree with you.

Bunch of pricks

[slangking]

I listened to an Albion game on the radio and the commentators thought that Hoefkens had been poor since he joined them and they've watched all of their games not just one yesterday.

[MarkWolstanton]

Why would someone who moderates a message board need to be impartial.

Do you really mean you don't agree with some of the moderators and therefore god forbid them?

Do you really need to sink to calling people you clearly do not agree with a bunch of pricks whilst continuing to use the message board that they operate?

[jcscfc]

I don't want him back. He tried to blackmail the club wanting stupid wages.

Why do people have such loyality to him quoting his love for Stoke. He was crap at Centre half in his first season and as a defender at right back was caught short on a number of occasions (but was good going forward).

If he loved Stoke he'd still be playing for us.

Will people stop putting posts about him on here. He gone, long gone, good ridance to the big headed get.

[s7oke]

gave away a needless free kick didnt he that led to pompeys goal

[sheikhmomo]

moorlander1 said:

n01stokie said:

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If the true story why Carl left was made public, the fans would be in an uproar.

Money and greed? That's the modern footballer I'm afraid.

[andyr]

I watched Carl Hoefkens play at the weekend and have to say he was man of the match and also was very sorry to see him go to wba , but always rated him going forward but not so good as a defender, best position was right side of midfield but wouldnt swap him for lawence

[cousindupree]

Hoefkens is a quality player and was great going forward but a bt dodgy in defence. But he was surrounded by good defenders so it didnt matter.
Pulis hounded him out of the club. It was a classic manager not liking a player situation. You see it all the time in business. When you have inherited someone who works for you who you dont like or rate, you make life uncomfortable, sinlge the individual out for criticism and undermine him in public....Pulis did all these regularly.
Why?...Jealous of his good looks and celeb lifestyle

[sheikhmomo]

celeb lifestyle ???

Playing cards in Fenton now constitutes a celebrity lifestyle

[northantsash]

no way, he has moved on and so have stoke.

[winger]

I can't be arsed to read this thread, but I know what Momo will have said anyway so I'll just go off and support the fookin Fale now.

[knowingeye]

Pique will be staying at O/T, at least for the time being.

[sheikhmomo]

winger said:

I can't be arsed to read this thread.

I have the same problem with your books, love.

[RAF]

I'm not getting into the whole Hoofers debate again, but Sportsman Griff has had a very poor run of form recently at right back, therefore he should either be dropped or moved to left back where we all know he plays better anyway.

H

[OldStokie]

Playing cards in Fenton now constitutes a celebrity lifestyle

Another good one, Victor.

OS.

[mumf14]

Hoefkens was a legend in his own mind...

He's now doing the same job at West Brom as he did here...letting wingers get crosses in and costing them points.

We couldn't do without Hoefkens at West Brom...He's contributing immensely to Stokes promotion push.

Gooarnnn you girl from Ghenk !!!....Toss your hair back...Toss those Bossie boys tooooo

[growler]

The fake Sheik is pathetic. The fact that Hoef had a good game at the weekend is news. You are the one who mentioned Puils etc. According to one paper Pericard was great when he came on for Soton - does that make me a Pericard fan or a Pulista? Of course not.

[sheikhmomo]

The four papers I read in the boozer yesterday and the two I've read today all have one thing in common, none gave him MOM and none even gave him the best player in West Brazil's team.

Rose tinted Pulis hating spectacles perchance?

OS stop calling me victor then

[Birchesheadpotter]

mumf14 said:

letting wingers get crosses in and costing them points

Sounds an aweful lot like our current right back dosn't it mumf

[mikeyb99]

Hoefkens was and is a better full-back than Griffin. Fact.

[Birchesheadpotter]

Some people on here who claim that everyone else on here's blinkered, just dont get that bit though mikeyb99

As much as I regret it, my arguement isnt about Hoefkens leaving, its about the fact that Pulis pushed him out of the door without having a better or even as good a replacement as him.

I dont give a flying fuck about Brazil, the fact is that decision is costing US pionts and I just cant understand his reasons for making it.

[mikeyb99]

Agree birches.

I've said it before: you can argue about how good or bad a manager Pulis is, but there is not a doubt that he has serious character flaws. Pulis didn't like Hoefkens, he forced him out of the club. It's as simple as that. How could it ever have been about money? Just look at some of the mega-bucks Coates is throwing towards the likes of Ameobi! All his wages (£25k+ p/w?), a loan fee (rumoured £500k+) and a future transfer (rumoured £5m).

[followyoudown]

birchesheadpotter said:

As much as I regret it, my arguement isnt about Hoefkens leaving, its about the fact that Pulis pushed him out of the door without having a better or even as good a replacement as him.
.

Well if he's as quick replacing Hoefkens with a better player as he was Bjarni only another 3 years to wait

[MrMagic]

mumf14 said:

Hoefkens was a legend in his own mind...

He's now doing the same job at West Brom as he did here...letting wingers get crosses in and costing them points.

We couldn't do without Hoefkens at West Brom...He's contributing immensely to Stokes promotion push.

Gooarnnn you girl from Ghenk !!!....Toss your hair back...Toss those Bossie boys tooooo

I suppose he invented the unanimous player of the season accolades in his own mind as well.

The utter toolishness of some people never fails to impress me.

There are two schools of thought on hoefkens. Those that saw that he was a decent player at this level, and would have preferred him to stay, at least until we replaced him with better, and those that do not have a view of their own and blindly agree with any action that the club / manager takes.

Even so - I can't beleive we are even having this debate again.

[mumf14]

He's that good he cost 10 points last season and might even make the bench for BELGIUM.

[Dallas Cowboy]

Did you think that one up all by yourself, mumf, or was it taken straight out of the Thoughts of Chairman Pulis?

[mumf14]

He wouldn't make it into my top 100 club.

[Davef]

mumf14 said:

He's that good he cost 10 points last season and might even make the bench for BELGIUM.

Come on then mumf, let's have a list of the mistakes which cost us ten points last season.