lawman57
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Post by lawman57 on Jan 23, 2011 13:30:48 GMT
Mr Coates has a say on what money is spent not just TP so it's unfair to say Tony has spent 80 mill
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Post by alster on Jan 23, 2011 13:31:17 GMT
It's the other way round. Not trying in the cup and the negative crap we saw yesterday shows total disrespect to supporters. Pulis will NEVER displace Waddo in our affections because Waddo gave us sides designed to entertain. The man loved football and flair players, intelligent inside forwards especially. Pulis is the opposite. That's why whatever Pulis does statistically he will never ever be respected and loved like Waddo. As Daftburger says, this thread shows total disrespect to our best ever manager. i agree with most of that except saying pulis will never be respected or loved, i reckon most love pulis including me, even though we get very frustrated with him at times, like yesterday I think Pulis is widely respected even by his critics, who also accept that he has enourmous affection for our club (he came to work the day his mother died for gods sake). Its not easy to love him and football at the same time, I'm sticking with football, sorry if that irks some people.
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Post by Matthews dad on Jan 23, 2011 13:33:20 GMT
Shown to the best manager we have ever had (All things considered) Does the all things considered include the near £80million spent on footballers? Yeah, if only he'd been as shit as the previous tosspots, then we'd have spent around £800,000 in the last 3 years.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 23, 2011 13:36:00 GMT
Does the all things considered include the near £80million spent on footballers? Yeah, if only he'd been as shit as the previous tosspots, then we'd have spent around £800,000 in the last 3 years. Is Matthew around? We might get more sense as his dad talks arse. He spent £5million to get us up ffs.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 23, 2011 13:37:57 GMT
As a club we have improved every season he has been here. Does that not grant him the odd bad performance?
Criticism is ok, but some people go way over the top.
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Post by Matthews dad on Jan 23, 2011 13:40:21 GMT
£5 Milllion eh ;D
Player From Fee Date Richard Cresswell Leeds Signed 02-08-2007 Andy Griffin Derby £ 300000 11-01-2008 Leon Cort C Palace £ 1200000 14-01-2008 Danny Pugh Preston £ 500000 15-01-2008 Ryan Shawcross Man Utd £ 1000000 17-01-2008 Glenn Whelan Sheff Wed £ 500000 31-01-2008 Total: £ 3500000
Players out Player To Fee Date Ed de Goey QPR Free 09-07-2007 Darel Russell Norwich Signed 30-07-2007 Carl Hoefkens West Brom £ 750000 07-08-2007 Sanbegou Bangoura Boavista £ 270000 14-08-2007 Matthew Hazley Stafford Free 14-08-2007 Danny Higginbotham Sunderland £ 2500000 29-08-2007 Robert Garrett Wrexham Signed 27-09-2007 Peter Sweeney Leeds Free 10-01-2008 Clint Hill C Palace Signed 16-01-2008 John Eustace Watford £ 250000 31-01-2008 Marlon Broomes Blackpool Free 05-06-2008 Total: £ 3770000
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Post by jonnynico on Jan 23, 2011 13:41:27 GMT
And this makes him what...invincible does it free from any criticism because what he got us to the prem so is allowed to make some of the dumbest choices to squad selection and decides to slip back to negative bullshit that has followed him throughout his management. Maybe Tony should actually think of the fans that went to Fulham and then think of the disrespect he showed to them by putting out a team that gave up before they even started. Respect can work both ways. Well said Sid. He shafted THOSE Stokies who were there yesterday including my nephew who was sickened by the performance and tactics. totaly agree, i'm afraid mr pulis could'nt wipe waddo's boots.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 23, 2011 13:42:51 GMT
Waddo was also around FORTY years ago. Time to move on chaps.
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Post by mayf on Jan 23, 2011 13:48:26 GMT
As a club we have improved every season he has been here. Does that not grant him the odd bad performance? Criticism is ok, but some people go way over the top. But it's not the odd bad performance is it,it's the odd good performance. It's been said on here before and I totally agree with it,we play crap and get a result and no-one mentions the performance but when we don't get the result...... Here's a thought for you all,if you were all supporters of other teams what would your view be of Stoke City and Tony Pulis ? I suggest the majority would say good manager,done an excellent job at Stoke but I couldn't watch it every week....which is basically what everyone outside of SCFC thinks about us
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Post by frasier45 on Jan 23, 2011 13:48:47 GMT
And this makes him what...invincible does it free from any criticism because what he got us to the prem so is allowed to make some of the dumbest choices to squad selection and decides to slip back to negative bullshit that has followed him throughout his management. Maybe Tony should actually think of the fans that went to Fulham and then think of the disrespect he showed to them by putting out a team that gave up before they even started. Respect can work both ways. Good post Sid Frustrating fcuker is our Tone intee ;D
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Post by Murdoc Niccals on Jan 23, 2011 13:53:07 GMT
And this makes him what...invincible does it free from any criticism because what he got us to the prem so is allowed to make some of the dumbest choices to squad selection and decides to slip back to negative bullshit that has followed him throughout his management. Maybe Tony should actually think of the fans that went to Fulham and then think of the disrespect he showed to them by putting out a team that gave up before they even started. Respect can work both ways. Excellent summary Sidders, I bet every travelling Stokie yesterday would agree with that.
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Post by The Red and White Baron on Jan 23, 2011 14:29:50 GMT
It's the other way round. Not trying in the cup and the negative crap we saw yesterday shows total disrespect to supporters. Pulis will NEVER displace Waddo in our affections because Waddo gave us sides designed to entertain. The man loved football and flair players, intelligent inside forwards especially. Pulis is the opposite. That's why whatever Pulis does statistically he will never ever be respected and loved like Waddo. As Daftburger says, this thread shows total disrespect to our best ever manager. I was under the idea that even Waddo got a lot of stick. If that is the case, then Stoke's top 2 mangers of all time were criticitsed often. To me this suggests that many people are fickle. And the same one's now having a go at Pulis would be the same ones criticising Waddo back in the day. Some people are just moaners.
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Post by potters 22 on Jan 23, 2011 14:31:59 GMT
As a club we have improved every season he has been here. Does that not grant him the odd bad performance? Criticism is ok, but some people go way over the top. But it's not the odd bad performance is it,it's the odd good performance. It's been said on here before and I totally agree with it,we play crap and get a result and no-one mentions the performance but when we don't get the result...... Here's a thought for you all,if you were all supporters of other teams what would your view be of Stoke City and Tony Pulis ? I suggest the majority would say good manager,done an excellent job at Stoke but I couldn't watch it every week....which is basically what everyone outside of SCFC thinks about us I dont find it difficult to watch i look forward to every match! Perhaps you want to watch wba's tippy tappy football and us become a yo yo club? Not me long may tp be our manager!
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Post by alster on Jan 23, 2011 15:01:10 GMT
But it's not the odd bad performance is it,it's the odd good performance. It's been said on here before and I totally agree with it,we play crap and get a result and no-one mentions the performance but when we don't get the result...... Here's a thought for you all,if you were all supporters of other teams what would your view be of Stoke City and Tony Pulis ? I suggest the majority would say good manager,done an excellent job at Stoke but I couldn't watch it every week....which is basically what everyone outside of SCFC thinks about us I dont find it difficult to watch i look forward to every match! Perhaps you want to watch wba's tippy tappy football and us become a yo yo club? Not me long may tp be our manager! WBA have been a yo yo club mainly because they fail to invest sufficiently in decent defenders and forwards. We have invested quite heavily in central defenders and forwards with mixed results but have paid less attention to the central midfield areas spending £5 million on a bloke who can't play football, and a mystery amount on Wilson, who may or may not be up to the job eventually, our only significant forrays into the market in this area. THERE IS ANOTHER WAY!
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Post by mayf on Jan 23, 2011 15:05:47 GMT
But it's not the odd bad performance is it,it's the odd good performance. It's been said on here before and I totally agree with it,we play crap and get a result and no-one mentions the performance but when we don't get the result...... Here's a thought for you all,if you were all supporters of other teams what would your view be of Stoke City and Tony Pulis ? I suggest the majority would say good manager,done an excellent job at Stoke but I couldn't watch it every week....which is basically what everyone outside of SCFC thinks about us I dont find it difficult to watch i look forward to every match! Perhaps you want to watch wba's tippy tappy football and us become a yo yo club? Not me long may tp be our manager! I'm really pleased for you but me,I've pretty much had enough,I've seen better football at Ladsandads and quit frankly it's not good enough for a premier league club who have spent millions of pounds
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 23, 2011 15:12:38 GMT
Why is it not good enough for the Premier League? Where in the rules does it state that every club must pass like Arsenal?
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Post by mayf on Jan 23, 2011 15:16:28 GMT
Why is it not good enough for the Premier League? Where in the rules does it state that every club must pass like Arsenal? Stokelad,just FUCK OFF ! Where have I mentioned passing like Arsenal ? You twist every fucking post to suit your own Tony Pulis loving agenda My opinion is Stoke play the shittiest football of just about every team in the premier league and its not something I want to watch. That ok for you ?
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 23, 2011 15:19:51 GMT
No, but I get the jist
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Post by alster on Jan 23, 2011 15:20:15 GMT
Why is it not good enough for the Premier League? Where in the rules does it state that every club must pass like Arsenal? Stokelad,just FUCK OFF ! Where have I mentioned passing like Arsenal ? You twist every fucking post to suit your own Tony Pulis loving agenda My opinion is Stoke play the shittiest football of just about every team in the premier league and its not something I want to watch. That ok for you ? Why let him wind you up he's nothing more than a sycophantic moron.
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Post by mayf on Jan 23, 2011 15:21:37 GMT
No, but I get the jist Bout time you changed that bloody picture too ;D
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Post by waitingforwaddo on Jan 23, 2011 15:32:38 GMT
Well said Mayf.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 23, 2011 15:32:49 GMT
Jones and Walters to replace Diao and Sidibe... Time to move on
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Post by mayf on Jan 23, 2011 15:35:47 GMT
Jones and Walters to replace Diao and Sidibe... Time to move on I'd be much happier looking at their mugshots,at least they are current players !
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Post by benthestokie on Jan 23, 2011 15:36:05 GMT
I went down yesterday and despite the result had a very enjoyable day out we were fairly awful but hey ho we'll beat the dingles next week and all will be forgotten.
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Post by neddy on Jan 23, 2011 15:40:36 GMT
It's always the same on here...massive over reation to a win and a massive over reaction to a loss!
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Post by potters 22 on Jan 23, 2011 15:41:21 GMT
You say youve had enough? So stay away then no one makes you watch the matches. Waitingforwaddo needs a friend on saturday afternoons to fetch his pipe and slippers.
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Post by RAF on Jan 23, 2011 15:57:39 GMT
Just to explain to the dribbling mongolites that get on threads like this. It is quite easy to respect TP for what he has done and what he is doing while questioning his tactics and selections and having a good old rant about it. If people want to happy clap him , then that is also fine, but why every week we have vomit inducing threads such as 'Look where we have come from' et al it's just fucking depressing. Sure on the flip side we have the 'Pulis out' threads from the equally spasticated but surely enough is enough?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 23, 2011 15:57:51 GMT
What winds me up though is that playing a bit of a more expansive ie 2 wingers and 2 strikers has worked. Why go back? There is no bloody need to.
I would be questioning this if Bill Shankly or Sir Alex Ferguson had done it, nevermind Pulis!
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Post by vancouverstokie on Jan 23, 2011 16:20:14 GMT
I just don't get it TP get's us into the top Div . for the first time in 20 odd years , we'v had about 10 Managers who have tried and failed over the 20 odd years , And how many Managers that have got promoted to the Premier League have spent stupid money on players and gone down leaving clubs in a mess for years ! Or just going straight back down in the first or second season ! Between TP and Coates in are 3rd season in the hardest League in the world we'r mid table , we'r not millions in debit , and we have a host of internationals playing for us ! We'v gone from Kyle Lightbourn to KJ , Ronnie Sinclair to Sorensen ! Whot the Hell is wrong with some people ! If Pulis made every right sub at the right time , every right tactice at every moment , one he wouldn't be at Stoke , he'd be at Barcelona or Madrid and be with a team in the last 16 of the Champions Leauge . But he will make mistakes from time to time . Where would you like to be bottom of Championship with a weak side favourits for the drop? Where we are now? So give the man some respect ( more so after the Villa match this season )
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