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Post by stokie25 on Jan 21, 2011 18:28:12 GMT
Call 'yourselves' stokies...not 'yourself'...bothered me for a little while
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Post by GrandStokie on Jan 21, 2011 18:28:44 GMT
Some people have genuine concerns and ric leaving (if he has/does) will be a shock to say the least. Sorry reverend but we had genuine concerns when we had 8000 gates and every talent we had was sold for peanuts with no replacement. The contrast couldn't be more stark Mate that was something completely different, they were dark days (I still have nightmares).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 18:28:52 GMT
Some of the posts on this board in the last 24 hours have been comedy gold. If they think a waning Fuller leaving when we are rolling in cash and 8th in the Premier League is suffering then they haven't been Stoke supporters for very long. But...they pay their money, and they have a username on the Oatcake, and thus they post away like mad lemmings awaiting their fate, and they are in their own minds "supporters", so they are entitled to their "opinion" and believe in some way it has some value. Parrot heads.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 18:34:25 GMT
Some people would rather be a Pulis fan than a Stoke fan as well. You were falling over yourself to fellate Fuller when you thought he was Pulis' chosen one and it gave you an excuse to put Tuncay down. Now you think he wants him out so you change your tune again. It's embarrassing. Have you pre ordered one for the summer? Or do they do half season tickets? May be worth an enquiry... Have you ordered yourself a little cottage in Wales for when Pulis retires? Or will you just be in the field with the rest of the sheep?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 18:35:24 GMT
Some of the posts on this board in the last 24 hours have been comedy gold. If they think a waning Fuller leaving when we are rolling in cash and 8th in the Premier League is suffering then they haven't been Stoke supporters for very long. But...they pay their money, and they have a username on the Oatcake, and thus they post away like mad lemmings awaiting their fate, and they are in their own minds "supporters", so they are entitled to their "opinion" and believe in some way it has some value. Parrot heads. Messageboard users in "post opinion shocker!" What do you suggest we use the messageboard for, staring at the pretty colours?
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 21, 2011 18:36:19 GMT
Have you ordered yourself a little cottage in Wales for when Pulis retires? Or will you just be in the field with the rest of the sheep? Not a big fan of Wales, too much rain for my liking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 18:38:42 GMT
Have you ordered yourself a little cottage in Wales for when Pulis retires? Or will you just be in the field with the rest of the sheep? Not a big fan of Wales, too much rain for my liking. That's not a denial though is it? Just out of interest, what would your first choice team be?
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Jan 21, 2011 18:40:40 GMT
Call 'yourselves' stokies...not 'yourself'...bothered me for a little while I thought was he was addressing the thread to one person with a split personality
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 21, 2011 18:41:01 GMT
Sorro
C Davies - Shawcross - Huth - Higgy/Collins
Pennant - Delap - Whitehead - Etherington
Jones - Carew
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2011 18:42:04 GMT
You mean Begovic obviously?
And Davies. ;D I know You mean that, how sad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 18:43:02 GMT
Sorro C Davies - Shawcross - Huth - Higgy/Collins Pennant - Delap - Whitehead - Etherington Jones - Carew Not much for excitement are you? Double up on the wingers there and we're pretty well fucked.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 18:44:18 GMT
Messageboard users in "post opinion shocker!" What do you suggest we use the messageboard for, staring at the pretty colours? Well, beholding the end of the world with head in hands, and crying like babies isn't really very helpful. Stokies used to be made of sterner stuff - before the parrot heads came along.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 21, 2011 18:45:35 GMT
Not much for excitement are you? Double up on the wingers there and we're pretty well fucked. I'll put a ton on us getting relegated then, thank you for the tip. Wonder if Bet365 will give me decent odds?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 18:52:32 GMT
Not much for excitement are you? Double up on the wingers there and we're pretty well fucked. I'll put a ton on us getting relegated then, thank you for the tip. Wonder if Bet365 will give me decent odds? Hopefully we won't be playing your team.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 18:53:27 GMT
Messageboard users in "post opinion shocker!" What do you suggest we use the messageboard for, staring at the pretty colours? Well, beholding the end of the world with head in hands, and crying like babies isn't really very helpful. Stokies used to be made of sterner stuff - before the parrot heads came along. What is "helpful" then? Shall we all agree about everything all the time and shout "hooray for everything" at every opportunity?
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 21, 2011 18:54:05 GMT
So if we start Carew and Jones up front, start Shawcross andf Huth as center backs, have Pennent and Etherington down the wings and have a center midfield of Delap and Whitehead we are fooked?
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Post by waitingforwaddo on Jan 21, 2011 18:58:32 GMT
No fucker will turn up to watch that shit that's for sure. As Rob suggests, you don't like excitement (or football) do you?
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Post by lancer on Jan 21, 2011 18:58:34 GMT
I've always been a big fan of Fullers, but...he's no longer doing the job has a striker. If we had a goalie that wasn't keepinmg the ball out of the net, we be calling for his head, no matter how good he'd been in the past. A striker who can't score, is no better than the goalie who can't keep clean sheets. Ricardo Fuller is past his best. We can, and should take £3 million for him, and bring in a replacement. All this talk about not getting a player of Ric's class for three million is silly. We don't know who we can get, for how much. Football moves on players get oler and lose whatever made the good. Be sorry to see Ric go, but over the many years I've watched Stoke, I've seen better players than Ric go, and at more critical times, but Stoke City is still here. Open your eyes, lads and lasses, we've had the best out of Ric, but it's time to turn the page.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 21, 2011 18:59:47 GMT
No fucker will turn up to watch that shit that's for sure. As Rob suggests, you don't like excitement (or football) do you? I like it, but always prefer the result. (We have had this discussion many times)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 19:02:10 GMT
I've always been a big fan of Fullers, but...he's no longer doing the job has a striker. If we had a goalie that wasn't keepinmg the ball out of the net, we be calling for his head, no matter how good he'd been in the past. A striker who can't score, is no better than the goalie who can't keep clean sheets. Ricardo Fuller is past his best. We can, and should take £3 million for him, and bring in a replacement. All this talk about not getting a player of Ric's class for three million is silly. We don't know who we can get, for how much. Football moves on players get oler and lose whatever made the good. Be sorry to see Ric go, but over the many years I've watched Stoke, I've seen better players than Ric go, and at more critical times, but Stoke City is still here. Open your eyes, lads and lasses, we've had the best out of Ric, but it's time to turn the page. Again though, we're a much poorer, blunter team without him. So if we're not replacing him with someone who can do what he does at least, it's a backwards step.
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Post by lancer on Jan 21, 2011 19:11:44 GMT
I've always been a big fan of Fullers, but...he's no longer doing the job has a striker. If we had a goalie that wasn't keepinmg the ball out of the net, we be calling for his head, no matter how good he'd been in the past. A striker who can't score, is no better than the goalie who can't keep clean sheets. Ricardo Fuller is past his best. We can, and should take £3 million for him, and bring in a replacement. All this talk about not getting a player of Ric's class for three million is silly. We don't know who we can get, for how much. Football moves on players get oler and lose whatever made the good. Be sorry to see Ric go, but over the many years I've watched Stoke, I've seen better players than Ric go, and at more critical times, but Stoke City is still here. Open your eyes, lads and lasses, we've had the best out of Ric, but it's time to turn the page. Again though, we're a much poorer, blunter team without him. So if we're not replacing him with someone who can do what he does at least, it's a backwards step. But we don't know, and can't know how good his replacement will be until we get a season, or even half a season out of him. I'm not saying we will improve the team, because like you, I don't know, the difference being that I don't profess to know how good his replacement is. I'm just stating facts as I see them. You might be spot on, but I'm saying it as I see it. But the dearh of goals from Ric for the last season and a half indicate that we've had the best out of him. People are saying that he must have something left because Sunderland and the Baggies are interested in him. Well, doesn't the same apply to the players that TP is showing an interest in? I hope you're wrong, because if you're right, we'll both be the loser, but we still have to move on,taking a chance and that's the game of football.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 19:13:17 GMT
Again though, we're a much poorer, blunter team without him. So if we're not replacing him with someone who can do what he does at least, it's a backwards step. But we don't know, and can't know how good his replacement will be until we get a season, or even half a season out of him. I'm not saying we will improve the team, because like you, I don't know, the difference being that I don't profess to know how good his replacement is. I'm just stating facts as I see them. You might be spot on, but I'm saying it as I see it. But the dearh of goals from Ric for the last season and a half indicate that we've had the best out of him. People are saying that he must have something left because Sunderland and the Baggies are interested in him. Well, doesn't the same apply to the players that TP is showing an interest in? I hope you're wrong, because if you're right, we'll both be the loser, but we still have to move on,taking a chance and that's the game of football. Which is why selling him before replacing him is utter lunacy and a completely arse about face way of doing things.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 21, 2011 19:15:22 GMT
Sorro C Davies - Shawcross - Huth - Higgy/Collins Pennant - Delap - Whitehead - Etherington Jones - Carew You really want to see Jones and Carew up front ? So much for evolution of our football
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 21, 2011 19:17:42 GMT
Evolution is overrated, we will never be like Arsenal. May as well stick to what works for us.
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Post by lancer on Jan 21, 2011 19:20:22 GMT
But we don't know, and can't know how good his replacement will be until we get a season, or even half a season out of him. I'm not saying we will improve the team, because like you, I don't know, the difference being that I don't profess to know how good his replacement is. I'm just stating facts as I see them. You might be spot on, but I'm saying it as I see it. But the dearh of goals from Ric for the last season and a half indicate that we've had the best out of him. People are saying that he must have something left because Sunderland and the Baggies are interested in him. Well, doesn't the same apply to the players that TP is showing an interest in? I hope you're wrong, because if you're right, we'll both be the loser, but we still have to move on,taking a chance and that's the game of football. Which is why selling him before replacing him is utter lunacy and a completely arse about face way of doing things. Well, so far we've bought one, sold none.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Jan 21, 2011 19:24:52 GMT
Evolution is overrated, we will never be like Arsenal. May as well stick to what works for us. what has worked for us has generally been a target man with someone unpredictable alongside him and a wide player or 2 who are usually isolated as a 3 or 4 in attacks allowing us to keep plenty behind the ball at all times and keep the full backs fairly deep. I think you need a forward who can make something out of nothing if you are going to rely on just a few men to make goals. I just don't see Jones and Carew as a good partnership, it seems too one dimensional, but we'll see. If fuller has to go over money issues then it's probably fair enough, but I'd rather see jones and tuncay together from now on if fuller has to leave.
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Post by stokebill on Jan 21, 2011 19:26:58 GMT
I'll miss Rick (If He Goes) but lets take the emotion out of all this, Rick hasn't really set the world on fire this season, yes the goal against Brum was fookin amazin, but TP will look at his record, his age, his Injuries, and be looking at the future. Is Jerome the answer? Who knows, but Jerome has a far better record coming into the Club than Rick had when he came in, so I think if this goes ahead, and Jerome can score 10 to 12 per season, and bring that pace to the Team, then he has to be seen as a success. There are very few players in 35 years of watching Stoke, who have made me stand up when he gets the ball just inside the opponents half like Rick does, but he will be 32 later this year, and maybe, now is the time while he's still worth something, especially if he's chomping for another deal. I also think big John will be perfect for us, and I don't think the Fuller situation had anything to do with this deal, TP wanted him anyway, and let's be honest, if Carew would have come into the Club this Summer, we'd have wet ourselves! Goaaarn Stoke! Ric hasn't set the world on fire this season, but he's on 3 goals from 9 starts and remains our only "Plan B" as an impact sub. It's highly likely that Tuncay now becomes Plan B on the bench and Jones starting with Jerome/Carew. I think the comment of "who knows" about Jerome is quite telling. It's a massive gamble. No need to take the gamble until we know for sure that Ric is replaced.
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