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Post by stokecityscott on Jan 3, 2011 13:02:10 GMT
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Post by RMSCFC on Jan 3, 2011 13:04:06 GMT
Read that earlier.
Dont think he understands that the strikers we have are perfoming well.
But i do agree Gudjonsonn should of had more Apps of the bench than he has.
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Post by KevinWhimper on Jan 3, 2011 13:04:44 GMT
As much as what Gudjon did for Stoke and I'll appreciate it for the rest of my life, he can quite frankly fuck off.
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Post by mamasshinyhead on Jan 3, 2011 13:10:53 GMT
So a man who even got sacked from Crewe Alexandra is criticising a premiership standard manager? ;D He needs to focus on his career rather than Pulis'. If Pulis doesn't want to play him then he won't play him, and thats it. Yes i'd like to see Gudjohnsen get a start or some game time so he can prove himself (preferably against Cardiff) ... but that was outrageous for him to insult Pulis' team choices.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 13:14:25 GMT
You have to understand the Icelandic link. Stoke is seen as a lower top flight club. Gudjonsonn is seen as Iceland's first, best and greatest ever player. From over there, it's a bit like Rooney signing for e.g. Sienna in Italy and not being able to get a game. They are always going to think Gudjonsonn is getting a raw deal.
Any of the Icelandic Oatcakers available for a view on this?
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Post by Northy on Jan 3, 2011 13:17:18 GMT
Smallsall away sums up Gudjon  He got us promoted through the play offs but had a lot of resources available to him and we should have gone up automatically. |
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Post by bettsy on Jan 3, 2011 13:25:06 GMT
You have to understand the Icelandic link. Stoke is seen as a lower top flight club. Gudjonsonn is seen as Iceland's first, best and greatest ever player. From over there, it's a bit like Rooney signing for e.g. Sienna in Italy and not being able to get a game. They are always going to think Gudjonsonn is getting a raw deal. Any of the Icelandic Oatcakers available for a view on this? couldn't agree more and to be fair i'm slighlty pissed off pulis hasn't got eidur on more, the biggest name come to stoke in my lifetime and he never starts! and to make it worse mama will be in front of him just like cresswalters , oh deary deary me!  |
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Post by oslostokie1 on Jan 3, 2011 13:37:06 GMT
When you look at the pedigree of this player, and how he performed against us last season when he was no less fit than he is now, it is a scandalous waste that we have not seen him at all. He is the kind of player who would have put away the chances that Fuller had on Saturday. It is criminal that we have to watch a plodder like Walters when you have such talent on the bench.
It might be partly the Icelandic connection why Gudjon has said what he has. But any balanced supporter has to feel the same way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 13:44:14 GMT
When you look at the pedigree of this player, and how he performed against us last season when he was no less fit than he is now, it is a scandalous waste that we have not seen him at all. He is the kind of player who would have put away the chances that Fuller had on Saturday. It is criminal that we have to watch a plodder like Walters when you have such talent on the bench. It might be partly the Icelandic connection why Gudjon has said what he has. But any balanced supporter has to feel the same way. Any balanced supporter? Really? We're three points of sixth place. Gudjohnsen, when he has come on, has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he's worth a starting place. Pulis sees the player in training every day. The bloke has done absolutely nowt in football beyond that goal at the Brit in around what, 3-4 years? He's been a poor, baffling signing, but if he's not up to it then he shouldn't play purely based on his reputation. Gudjon should keep his own counsel as well, given he once left our 20 goal star striker on the bench and fielded Rikki "Plodder" Dadason on his own up front in the club's most important game of the season. |
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Jan 3, 2011 13:51:22 GMT
When you look at the pedigree of this player, and how he performed against us last season when he was no less fit than he is now, it is a scandalous waste that we have not seen him at all. He is the kind of player who would have put away the chances that Fuller had on Saturday. It is criminal that we have to watch a plodder like Walters when you have such talent on the bench. It might be partly the Icelandic connection why Gudjon has said what he has. But any balanced supporter has to feel the same way. Definatley, I dn't know who to point the finger at in this debate, because if he was willing to make the effort and get in shape you would have to assume that he would be in serious contention. I myself am dissapointed we havn't seen his 'class' in a Stoke shirt. |
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Post by actongatestokie on Jan 3, 2011 13:52:27 GMT
Gudjon would be better served watching Kenwyne Jones - a target man that scores goals. No doubt he's spent the last 6 weeks at St Andrews, reminiscing about what a gangly target man who doesn't score looks like.  |
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Post by GrandStokie on Jan 3, 2011 14:03:41 GMT
Gudjon will always be biased towards Icelandic players and to a degree he has a point. Its a bit baffling why Tone signs players and then we never see them, but he has his reasons and to be fair EG hasn't shown anything that warrants a start ahead of other players.
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Post by tazi on Jan 3, 2011 14:10:47 GMT
I can only assume that it's nothing to do with our strikers not playing too badly as to the reason why he couldn't get out on the pitch but more likely to be that he's let himself down badly off it.
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Post by andystokey on Jan 3, 2011 14:13:35 GMT
When you look at the pedigree of this player, and how he performed against us last season when he was no less fit than he is now, it is a scandalous waste that we have not seen him at all. He is the kind of player who would have put away the chances that Fuller had on Saturday. It is criminal that we have to watch a plodder like Walters when you have such talent on the bench. It might be partly the Icelandic connection why Gudjon has said what he has. But any balanced supporter has to feel the same way. Any balanced supporter? Really? We're three points of sixth place. Gudjohnsen, when he has come on, has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he's worth a starting place. Pulis sees the player in training every day. The bloke has done absolutely nowt in football beyond that goal at the Brit in around what, 3-4 years? He's been a poor, baffling signing, but if he's not up to it then he shouldn't play purely based on his reputation. Gudjon should keep his own counsel as well, given he once left our 20 goal star striker on the bench and fielded Rikki "Plodder" Dadason on his own up front in the club's most important game of the season. +1 |
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Post by AlliG on Jan 3, 2011 14:13:50 GMT
This is presumably the same Eidur who also couldn't get a kick in 12 months at Monaco.
It appears that Eidur can't get a game in either a physical direct team or a tippy tappy team.
I think Gudjon is looking in the wrong direction for his villain here.
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Post by PickSCFC on Jan 3, 2011 14:17:50 GMT
What a load of shit, how the fuck does he know the players better than Pulis ???
Im dissapointed that Eidur hasnt done well for us as he has been a quality player and I would have hoped that he would have played more but unlike some of our fans I trust TP as our manager and fully understand why he hasnt been picking him
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Post by Gods on Jan 3, 2011 14:18:47 GMT
This is presumably the same Eidur who also couldn't get a kick in 12 months at Monaco. It appears that Eidur can't get a game in either a physical direct team or a tippy tappy team. I think Gudjon is looking in the wrong direction for his villain here. Correct. Some folks seem to think Eidur was some great success at Spurs, well if so how come they made no effort to keep him and haven't come calling this time around. I reckon he had one good game for Spurs and ironically that was at the Brit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 14:24:30 GMT
Swansea seem to be favourites to sign him. Would be an interesting move.
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Post by Davef on Jan 3, 2011 14:28:57 GMT
The Gudjohnsen transfer has been a complete and utter waste of time and nobody has come out of it with any credit.
The player's fitness and attitude have to come in to question, as does the manager's judgement, though even if he was fitter than he is, it's debatable whether he would've been used that often.
This must be the last signing of a player of Gudjohnsen's pedigree that makes absolutely no impact on our first team.
As for Gudjon, well he's clearly got a grudge against Tony Pulis for how he perceives his sons were treated at Stoke.
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Post by Gods on Jan 3, 2011 14:33:47 GMT
The Gudjohnsen transfer has been a complete and utter waste of time and nobody has come out of it with any credit. The player's fitness and attitude have to come in to question, as does the manager's judgement, though even if he was fitter than he is, it's debatable whether he would've been used that often. This must be the last signing of a player of Gudjohnsen's pedigree that makes absolutely no impact on our first team. As for Gudjon, well he's clearly got a grudge against Tony Pulis for how he perceives his sons were treated at Stoke. Agree with all that. The "Gudjon" affair has been a poor do all round. Just hope lessons have been learnt. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 3, 2011 14:36:16 GMT
Gudjon can fuck himself
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Post by scfcloyalist on Jan 3, 2011 14:41:37 GMT
Hes right what he says, they should have him fit now and something else has gone on, basically, if you dont lick up tones arse your a misfit.
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Post by fromafar07 on Jan 3, 2011 14:41:53 GMT
doesnt look any different than this time last year when Tuncay was on board. the boss has it stuck in his head that Jones is the only striker he can NEVER sit down regardless of his gash performances over the last 7-8 games, Everton not included. Pulis was talking about the glut of games over the holiday season and how he would have to platoon players in and out to keep them fresh.  who exactly did he do that with ? gotta know how to use something if your gonna buy it, its like my grandmother getting an Ipod, cool, great gadget, does lots of things, but she has no clue how to use it |
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Post by scfcloyalist on Jan 3, 2011 14:45:17 GMT
For the first time ever, i agree with you fromafar ;D some of these past few games weve been crying out for someonr like eidur to come on and provide that killer pass through a defence, or to finish off a chance. Were onabout all this shit we need a finisher at the club, we already have one in eidur.
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Post by PickSCFC on Jan 3, 2011 14:46:51 GMT
For the first time ever, i agree with you fromafar ;D some of these past few games weve been crying out for someonr like eidur to come on and provide that killer pass through a defence, or to finish off a chance. Were onabout all this shit we need a finisher at the club, we already have one in eidur. We have won 2 out of the last 3 weve played so I wouldnt say we were crying out for him to come on |
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Post by scfcloyalist on Jan 3, 2011 14:48:43 GMT
Backpool, wigan away, blackburn enough said. We won at blackburn due to us being very very lucky.
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Post by serpico on Jan 3, 2011 14:49:52 GMT
Tunny always looked fit to me, Gudjohnson on the other hand, stills looks a bit on the heavy side, that said, i think there have been times when we could have used him, 2-0 up against Everton would have been a good time to give him a run for the last 10 minutes, he's pretty useful at holding the ball up.
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 3, 2011 14:50:15 GMT
For a manager who seems to set his standard by the amount of background work he does on players before committing to signing them, the signing, and subsequent non-use of Eidur is baffling.
Any fans who cannot see that there are clear questions around this are puddled in my opinion.
And anyone who buys the "fitness" excuse is deluded. We have a long history of playing half fit players who fit into the system. Does anyone seriously thing that Walters is better than Eidur??? At the end of the day, the manager can, and will select who he wants, but you don't go out and bring in a player of Gudjonssons pedegree and then leave the rotting in the reserves for 5 months.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 14:50:41 GMT
Backpool, wigan away, blackburn enough said. We won at blackburn due to us being very very lucky. We were far and away the better team at Blackburn and could have had five. The front two played well at Wigan and caused them a lot of problems. |
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Post by scfcloyalist on Jan 3, 2011 14:51:59 GMT
For a manager who seems to set his standard by the amount of background work he does on players before committing to signing them, the signing, and subsequent non-use of Eidur is baffling. Any fans who cannot see that there are clear questions around this are puddled in my opinion. And anyone who buys the "fitness" excuse is deluded. We have a long history of playing half fit players who fit into the system. Does anyone seriously thing that Walters is better than Eidur??? At the end of the day, the manager can, and will select who he wants, but you don't go out and bring in a player of Gudjonssons pedegree and then leave the rotting in the reserves for 5 months. +1 |
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who exactly did he do that with ?
