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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 11:24:07 GMT
... start him bring him off? - bring him on at the end? - decisions decisions
he said he would be ready by the end of december
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 27, 2010 11:28:10 GMT
He doesn't even really seem to be in the shake-up for any 10-minute run-outs these days
It'd be very surprising if he ever started a game for Stoke now, wouldn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 11:30:55 GMT
He doesn't even really seem to be in the shake-up for any 10-minute run-outs these days It'd be very surprising if he ever started a game for Stoke now, wouldn't it? no i cant see him starting yet - but hes got to get him used to playing in the team
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Post by Matthews dad on Dec 27, 2010 11:32:23 GMT
Cardiff's a deffo start for him and Tunny.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 27, 2010 11:35:39 GMT
He has to try him at some point and I thinkCardiff could be the one as stated. I'd be interested to see if he played if he was signed by any other Premiership team due to his fitness or if he is so unfit. If he is he's an embaressment to himself.
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Post by yerwot on Dec 27, 2010 11:36:28 GMT
Reckon TP will wait till we're 2-0 up in last 10 minutes then bring him on when it shouldn't matter if he fails.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 27, 2010 11:43:53 GMT
Team against Cardiff?
..............................Sorro................................ Wilko........Faye.................Higgy...........Collins ..............................Wilson............................. Walters.................................................Tunny ..............................Whelan............................ ..............Gudjohnsen..........KJ........................
Worth a go? For any league game I prefer us to start with our strongest 11, but maybe the time to give some of them a rest? Important that Huth and others with 4 bookings get their 5th before this game! ;D
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Post by Bick on Dec 27, 2010 11:44:22 GMT
I don't blame TP for it whatsoever!! He has looked uninterested and lazy EVERY time he has got on the pitch. If he isn't going to fight for a place, he doesn't deserve one
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 27, 2010 11:55:42 GMT
Eidur has not shown us the player that he once was, if he can get remotely close to that he'll play!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 11:59:25 GMT
Eidur Gudjohnsen is a class act. He may have had his glory years, but he is more than capable of having a glory game or more for us. I think we will see plenty of him before the season is out.
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Post by ohhgeorgieberry on Dec 27, 2010 12:01:36 GMT
forget him we need to get rid asap it is ridiculas that he let him self get so out of shape in the first place
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Post by march4 on Dec 27, 2010 12:17:24 GMT
forget him we need to get rid asap it is ridiculas that he let him self get so out of shape in the first place Ditto
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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 27, 2010 14:06:41 GMT
He doesn't even really seem to be in the shake-up for any 10-minute run-outs these days It'd be very surprising if he ever started a game for Stoke now, wouldn't it? I'm feeling like that too, his fitness has rivalled Parkin's so far so that's obviously a big big reason.... but I'm wondering have his legs started to go, what's he like on the ball under pressure... who's seen him in training??
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Post by edwardinho on Dec 27, 2010 14:25:24 GMT
Team against Cardiff? ..............................Sorro................................ Wilko........Faye.................Higgy...........Collins ..............................Wilson............................. Walters.................................................Tunny ..............................Whelan............................ ..............Gudjohnsen..........KJ........................ Worth a go? For any league game I prefer us to start with our strongest 11, but maybe the time to give some of them a rest? Important that Huth and others with 4 bookings get their 5th before this game! ;D 4 strikers?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 14:34:21 GMT
He doesn't even really seem to be in the shake-up for any 10-minute run-outs these days It'd be very surprising if he ever started a game for Stoke now, wouldn't it? I'm feeling like that too, his fitness has rivalled Parkin's so far so that's obviously a big big reason.... but I'm wondering have his legs started to go, what's he like on the ball under pressure... who's seen him in training?? If Eidur Downs fitness was such an issue, then I feel reasonably sure that the club would have done something more drastic about it by now. Eidur Down must be either fit or is in breach of his contract. The issue has to be his mental attitude or Tone has grave reservations about his current ability whether that be mental or physical or both.! It has been damned cold you know for ageing limbs...
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Post by bettsy on Dec 27, 2010 14:49:47 GMT
he will never start and nothing to do with his fitness anymore either, he's not a 12 foot big fucker who cannot play football and flicks headers onto the opposition. He's a fantastic player who can hold the ball without panicing for 2 seconds like most our other players, he's got a great shot on him, fantastic control, he likes ball to feet etc etc i've give up thinking he'll play because he WON'T EVER! I bet he's thinking" why the fuck have i come to stoke?" Biggest name to come to us in my lifetime and i'm never going see him play, slightly disappointed to say the least
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Post by fromafar07 on Dec 27, 2010 15:03:35 GMT
He doesn't even really seem to be in the shake-up for any 10-minute run-outs these days It'd be very surprising if he ever started a game for Stoke now, wouldn't it? I'm feeling like that too, his fitness has rivalled Parkin's so far so that's obviously a big big reason.... but I'm wondering have his legs started to go, what's he like on the ball under pressure... who's seen him in training?? have his legs started to go ??
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 27, 2010 15:10:31 GMT
Bettsy, you think Jones is bone idle yet seem to be keen on us playing someone who struggles to maintain jogging pace for more than 10 yards.
Eidur Gudjohnsen will not play for SCFC until he is as fit as the rest of the squad and able to put in the running that Kenwynne and Ricci do.
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Post by Irish Stokie on Dec 27, 2010 15:12:27 GMT
he will never start and nothing to do with his fitness anymore either, he's not a 12 foot big fucker who cannot play football and flicks headers onto the opposition. He's a fantastic player who can hold the ball without panicing for 2 seconds like most our other players, he's got a great shot on him, fantastic control, he likes ball to feet etc etc i've give up thinking he'll play because he WON'T EVER! I bet he's thinking" why the fuck have i come to stoke?" Biggest name to come to us in my lifetime and i'm never going see him play, slightly disappointed to say the least What a load if rubbish!! He has been a disgrace to himself and doesn't look like he's lost 1lb in his time here. He signed for us as he seen it as one last pay day where he could come and collect his wage with minimal effort. He's shown nothing in his brief appearances to merit a place in the 1st team and he is rightly our last option on the bench. Be still has time to prove mr wrong but up to now it's him that has been the embarrassment and not anyone else.
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Post by serpico on Dec 27, 2010 15:17:42 GMT
In the brief appearances he's made thus far he's looked well short of match fitness.
I seem to recall TP hinting in an interview that there had been things "behind the scenes" going on, so perhaps he's not sticking to his fitness regime as closely as TP had hoped ?.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 15:19:37 GMT
In the brief appearances he's made thus far he's looked well short of match fitness. I seem to recall TP hinting in an interview that there had been things "behind the scenes" going on, so perhaps he's not sticking to his fitness regime as closely as TP had hoped ?. Breach of contract even..?
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Post by serpico on Dec 27, 2010 15:21:54 GMT
"He had not done a pre-season and there has been a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. He needs time and I still think he'll play a part in this season."www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2235872,00.html
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2010 15:23:44 GMT
What another waste of a hell of a lot of money.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 15:24:37 GMT
What another waste of a hell of a lot of money. Stop moaning fat arse. ;D ;D
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Post by roostersgonnagetya on Dec 27, 2010 15:24:56 GMT
I ust think that EG isnt the type of player thought he was buying, he dunna work aaard enough no matter how fit he is, it's that simple.
It doesnt take this long to get match fit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2010 15:27:51 GMT
What another waste of a hell of a lot of money. Stop moaning fat arse. ;D ;D What You nicked for Christmas Scouse?
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Post by serpico on Dec 27, 2010 15:31:36 GMT
I suppose at the very least he's creating competition for places, no doubt Fuller has been looking over his shoulder more this season, which i think shows in the way he's been playing.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 27, 2010 15:34:10 GMT
I suppose at the very least he's creating competition for places, no doubt Fuller has been looking over his shoulder more this season, which i think shows in the way he's been playing. There's certainly some competition for space on the bench with his fat arse on it, Serps. Do you think the Z-Man may be available in Jan
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 27, 2010 15:34:31 GMT
I don't blame TP for it whatsoever!! He has looked uninterested and lazy EVERY time he has got on the pitch. If he isn't going to fight for a place, he doesn't deserve one And still picking up £30k a week. Pisses me right off these PL players. Fuckem they should be on very basic wage then get bonuses for fitness levels and more for being in the squad and then appearance and performance bonuses.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 27, 2010 16:19:27 GMT
Team against Cardiff? ..............................Sorro................................ Wilko........Faye.................Higgy...........Collins ..............................Wilson............................. Walters.................................................Tunny ..............................Whelan............................ ..............Gudjohnsen..........KJ........................ Worth a go? For any league game I prefer us to start with our strongest 11, but maybe the time to give some of them a rest? Important that Huth and others with 4 bookings get their 5th before this game! ;D 4 strikers? Why not? We certainly need to attack when we meet a Championship team at home!
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