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Post by mayf on Dec 12, 2010 13:39:05 GMT
I'd go 4-5-1 at Arsenal. If Blackpool can over-run our midfield so easily I'm sure Arsenal won't have any problem
Therefore I'd dispense with the ineffective KJ for this game.....it might give him a kick up the backside too.....and play an extra central midfielder......maybe Salif ? that would be clutching at straws wouldn't it ?
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 12, 2010 13:41:29 GMT
I think I would too, something like this maybe?
Begovic
Wilko Huth Ryan Higgy
Pennant Whelan Delap Whitehead Ethers
Jones
Jones has too play, Arsenal are poor in the air
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Post by fortressbritannia on Dec 12, 2010 13:48:11 GMT
Pennant Delap Wilson Whitehead Etherington
Fuller
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Post by longtonstokie on Dec 12, 2010 13:50:37 GMT
I think I would too, something like this maybe? Begovic Wilko Huth Ryan Higgy Pennant Whelan Delap Whitehead Ethers Jones Jones has too play, Arsenal are poor in the air But lethal on the ground! Longton. |
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Post by nickscfc on Dec 12, 2010 13:51:41 GMT
I cannot believe some of these line ups. 1 up front aginst Arsenal...at least if you do that you need a target man that can actually hold onto the ball for more than 1 second. Kenwyne Jones should be nowhere near the starting 11 for this one. Jon Walters and Tuncay/Eidur
You need a real hard work ethic against Arsenal, and Walters and Tunny will give you that.
Jones and Fuller simply wont.
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 12, 2010 13:54:18 GMT
I cannot believe some of these line ups. 1 up front aginst Arsenal...at least if you do that you need a target man that can actually hold onto the ball for more than 1 second. Kenwyne Jones should be nowhere near the starting 11 for this one. Jon Walters and Tuncay/Eidur You need a real hard work ethic against Arsenal, and Walters and Tunny will give you that. Jones and Fuller simply wont. Drop Jones for Walters? Im not going to bother taking you seriously anymore as your clearly on a wind up ;D |
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 12, 2010 13:56:53 GMT
How about having Walters helping out the midfield with Jones up top?
With Fuller and Tuncay to come off the bench later on
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Post by edwardinho on Dec 12, 2010 13:57:22 GMT
Begovic
Wilko Shawcross Huth Collins
Pennant Whiehead Delap Etherington
Walters
Jones
I think he needs to play Walters because he will track back and help out the midield, but at the same time Kenwyne needs to play because he is always a goal threat. Use Fuller as an impact sub, it will do him good to give him a rest.
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Post by nickscfc on Dec 12, 2010 13:57:24 GMT
I cannot believe some of these line ups. 1 up front aginst Arsenal...at least if you do that you need a target man that can actually hold onto the ball for more than 1 second. Kenwyne Jones should be nowhere near the starting 11 for this one. Jon Walters and Tuncay/Eidur You need a real hard work ethic against Arsenal, and Walters and Tunny will give you that. Jones and Fuller simply wont. Drop Jones for Walters? Im not going to bother taking you seriously anymore as your clearly on a wind up ;D Pick do you actually understand football? You dont seem to understand basic concepts. Do you even no what work ethic means? If you are over 20 as you say then you need to get back to school swiftly. Walters is the obvious replacement for Jones. He can play as a target man whilst dropping deep and helping out the midfield. Tuncay is a no brainer as well. We've got 2 games to revive his Stoke career. If he doesnt start in either, then January is here and hes gone. Suppose you would like that wouldnt you pick? Seeing as you dont seem appreciate true footballers. |
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Post by nickscfc on Dec 12, 2010 13:58:36 GMT
I cannot believe some are picking Jones in their team. Hes got no confidence, he has a poor relationship with the fans at the moment, and has been utter shit for about 9 straight games. How he deserves a starting spot is simply not justifiable.
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 12, 2010 13:59:05 GMT
Thats my thought edwardinho
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 12, 2010 14:00:39 GMT
I cannot believe some are picking Jones in their team. Hes got no confidence, he has a poor relationship with the fans at the moment, and has been utter shit for about 9 straight games. How he deserves a starting spot is simply not justifiable. Hes good in the air and arsenal are poor in the air, its a no brainer |
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Post by edwardinho on Dec 12, 2010 14:01:50 GMT
Thats my thought edwardinho yeah. i didn't see your post about it until i had posted mine. |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 12, 2010 14:02:36 GMT
Drop Jones for Walters? Im not going to bother taking you seriously anymore as your clearly on a wind up ;D Pick do you actually understand football? You dont seem to understand basic concepts. Do you even no what work ethic means? If you are over 20 as you say then you need to get back to school swiftly. Walters is the obvious replacement for Jones. He can play as a target man whilst dropping deep and helping out the midfield. Tuncay is a no brainer as well. We've got 2 games to revive his Stoke career. If he doesnt start in either, then January is here and hes gone. Suppose you would like that wouldnt you pick? Seeing as you dont seem appreciate true footballers. I hope Tuncay stays as hes a good squad player but I wont be crying if we get a good replacement in So pennant, ethers, fuller etc arnt 'true' footballers ??? |
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Post by nickscfc on Dec 12, 2010 14:02:52 GMT
I cannot believe some are picking Jones in their team. Hes got no confidence, he has a poor relationship with the fans at the moment, and has been utter shit for about 9 straight games. How he deserves a starting spot is simply not justifiable. Hes good in the air and arsenal are poor in the air, its a no brainer Not even going to respond to that one. |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 12, 2010 14:04:49 GMT
Hes good in the air and arsenal are poor in the air, its a no brainer Not even going to respond to that one. Jones times his jumps very well in the oppositions box, just look at the goals hes scored, if we try to out play arsenal then we will be dicked, our best chance of scoring against these is off a set piece |
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Post by nickscfc on Dec 12, 2010 14:07:15 GMT
Pick do you actually understand football? You dont seem to understand basic concepts. Do you even no what work ethic means? If you are over 20 as you say then you need to get back to school swiftly. Walters is the obvious replacement for Jones. He can play as a target man whilst dropping deep and helping out the midfield. Tuncay is a no brainer as well. We've got 2 games to revive his Stoke career. If he doesnt start in either, then January is here and hes gone. Suppose you would like that wouldnt you pick? Seeing as you dont seem appreciate true footballers. I hope Tuncay stays as hes a good squad player but I wont be crying if we get a good replacement in So pennant, ethers, fuller etc arnt 'true' footballers ??? I didnt say they werent. What i'm saying is Kenwyne needs dropping hes been shocking (how about that for poetry) and Fuller needs a rest to get back to his best ;D |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 12, 2010 14:08:40 GMT
I hope Tuncay stays as hes a good squad player but I wont be crying if we get a good replacement in So pennant, ethers, fuller etc arnt 'true' footballers ??? I didnt say they werent. What i'm saying is Kenwyne needs dropping hes been shocking (how about that for poetry) and Fuller needs a rest to get back to his best ;D To be fair I could live with Walters starting this game instead of fuller but Jones has to play |
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Post by mayf on Dec 12, 2010 14:08:59 GMT
Playing 1 forward you need someone who's going to chase lost causes and has some pace and can hold the ball up
The only player who fits the bill is Fuller
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Post by nickscfc on Dec 12, 2010 14:10:15 GMT
I didnt say they werent. What i'm saying is Kenwyne needs dropping hes been shocking (how about that for poetry) and Fuller needs a rest to get back to his best ;D To be fair I could live with Walters starting this game instead of fuller but Jones has to play Otherway round for me. Fuller/Tuncay/Eidur have that bit of magic. Jones doesnt. Could be the new Mama if hes not careful ;D ;D |
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Post by nickscfc on Dec 12, 2010 14:11:04 GMT
Playing 1 forward you need someone who's going to chase lost causes and has some pace and can hold the ball up The only player who fits the bill is Fuller But they also need to do alot of running to bring play from the midfield up top. Thus Tuncay fits the bill  |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 12, 2010 14:12:13 GMT
To be fair I could live with Walters starting this game instead of fuller but Jones has to play Otherway round for me. Fuller/Tuncay/Eidur have that bit of magic. Jones doesnt. Could be the new Mama if hes not careful ;D ;D Would you agree that Jones is better than all of those in the air? |
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Post by crewepotter on Dec 12, 2010 14:13:15 GMT
I do like Tuncay as a player but a lot of people get carried away by the fact that at times he just runs round like a headless chicken.
Jones is having a rough time at the minute but yesterday he did win a lot of headers and last week he set the 2nd goal up and nearly scored himself with a quality header.
Jones is the biggest goal threat we have in the team, for me he has to stay in
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Post by mayf on Dec 12, 2010 14:14:51 GMT
I do like Tuncay as a player but a lot of people get carried away by the fact that at times he just runs round like a headless chicken. Jones is having a rough time at the minute but yesterday he did win a lot of headers and last week he set the 2nd goal up and nearly scored himself with a quality header. Jones is the biggest goal threat we have in the team, for me he has to stay in Jones hasn't been a goal threat for weeks ! |
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 12, 2010 14:15:18 GMT
Pick is correct, our best chance of scoring against Arsenal is in the air. Jones is our biggest threat, so he must start
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Post by nickscfc on Dec 12, 2010 14:19:56 GMT
Otherway round for me. Fuller/Tuncay/Eidur have that bit of magic. Jones doesnt. Could be the new Mama if hes not careful ;D ;D Would you agree that Jones is better than all of those in the air? No to be quite honest!!! Tuncay wins a hell of a lot in the air. But thats not my point. I said to have WALTERS who cetainly is as capable of Jones regarding flick ons. And play Tuncay or Eidur off him. |
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Post by Beardy200 on Dec 12, 2010 14:22:22 GMT
Hes good in the air and arsenal are poor in the air, its a no brainer Not even going to respond to that one. Why not? It's the truth. ;D I don't have a problem with resting Jones occasionally but if you have a team as weak in the air as Arsenal then he has to play. We can rest if him next week if he's struggling. What Arsenal won't struggle with is some fat bloke who hasn't played in months waddling around the pitch. Secondly you say we need somebody up front who can hold the ball for a few seconds. The only player in the the whole squad who can do this is Ric and you want to drop him aswell. ;D If we need to rest Jones then we can rest him against Blackburn or Fulham who have good centre halves that won't be intimidated by Jones' presence in the air. Having said that, unless one of them has a broken leg i wouldn't pick Walters in their place. |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 12, 2010 14:22:35 GMT
Would you agree that Jones is better than all of those in the air? No to be quite honest!!! Tuncay wins a hell of a lot in the air. But thats not my point. I said to have WALTERS who cetainly is as capable of Jones regarding flick ons. And play Tuncay or Eidur off him. Well thats that then, I will not bother to discuss football matters with you again, Jones is one of the best headers of the ball in the league |
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Post by nickscfc on Dec 12, 2010 14:24:31 GMT
No to be quite honest!!! Tuncay wins a hell of a lot in the air. But thats not my point. I said to have WALTERS who cetainly is as capable of Jones regarding flick ons. And play Tuncay or Eidur off him. Well thats that then, I will not bother to discuss football matters with you again, Jones is one of the best headers of the ball in the league thank christ |
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 12, 2010 14:24:48 GMT
Tuncay is better in the air ;D
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