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Post by jarhead on Dec 12, 2010 0:33:52 GMT
And im still in shock now in how we played and with that starting 11 as that 11 has been brilliant when put out together.
I cant agree with Pulis in his interview after when he said we were great and unlucky but certainly not with ''you couldn't fault the lads attitude and commitment" as i thought thats what let us down badly today and a long way towards us losing the game,very unlike stoke and was so frustrating.
It looked to me like we thought all we had to do was turn up and the 3pts would automatically follow.It was bizarre as we looked dis- interested and at the back were at sixes and sevens but certainly Collins,he has got to be replaced in Jan or certainly put Higgy in who is a better defender as again he was at times embarrassing.
Our central midfield again got shown up to what it really is and what it does not posses ie Brains,Ability,Control,Creativity and i mean with the ball when in possession as i know both are good at running and braking up play but for me Delap is getting slower like with so many tackles today he was just late and gave away endless free-kicks as he just aint getting there anymore but that is not his fault.
Adam and Vaughan made our two centre-mids look like they had never played a game of football in there lives as they could not get close to them and gave them a serious lesson but when in possession our two looked totally clueless.
It was a serious bad day at the office and a one off i hope certainly at home as i dont expect a result next week as that Wanker Areshole Winger will be at the press all next week slating us so the ref will give us nothing at the Emirates so i will pretty much rite next week off but who knows,if we get a draw then brilliant but Blackburn boxing day is now massive.
We can do it stoke and lets get today out of our systems quickly.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Dec 12, 2010 0:36:11 GMT
Jesus, I agree with Jarhead  Actually have to say, that's pretty spot on mate. Now where can I find some rope.. |
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 12, 2010 0:37:36 GMT
Are you ok? You never put FFS once
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Post by poisonedmonkey on Dec 12, 2010 0:38:16 GMT
Jesus, I agree with Jarhead Actually have to say, that's pretty spot on mate. Now where can I find some rope.. Bridgend ;D |
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 12, 2010 0:39:56 GMT
I agree jarhead
We were poor today but on a different day we could have scored shit loads, it just wasnt to be today but fair play to Blackpool, they look a very good side and they wont go down
Now on to Arsenal........
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Post by jarhead on Dec 12, 2010 0:43:56 GMT
I think that team and get a new partner for Whitehead who can pass ie a Charlie Adam or a Vaughan then we can enjoy most games as today was just not us.
Collins though is seriously toss end of.
That team is what i wanted to be picked but i really thought the team thought it was a gimme.
But for long periods i thought the centre-midfield needed changing as they were getting left-behind big style and either Whelan or Wilson needed to have come on and tried to get a foot on the ball and Whelan when he came on did very well to be fair.
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Post by kavinoz on Dec 12, 2010 0:47:03 GMT
That, Jarhead, is a pretty well balance argument. In my opinion we did not play that badly. I'm not sure whether it was that we were complacent or just overwhelmed by their commitment, mobility, desire &, at times, good quality fast & direct passing game. (Many of the attributes that we have depended on.) And, for whatever reason, Adam was given far too much space & time on the ball. For a neutral it was a pretty good game & Blackpool need to be given the credit they deserve.
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 12, 2010 0:47:16 GMT
I think that team and get a new partner for Whitehead who can pass ie a Charlie Adam or a Vaughan then we can enjoy most games as today was just not us. Collins though is seriously toss end of. That team is what i wanted to be picked but i really thought the team thought it was a gimme. But for long periods i thought the centre-midfield needed changing as they were getting left-behind big style and either Whelan or Wilson needed to have come on and tried to get a foot on the ball and Whelan when he came on did very well to be fair. Agree with this too, whelan looked good when he came on Isnt it better when you come on and post in a reasonable manner mate? You should try it more often  |
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Post by jarhead on Dec 12, 2010 0:55:49 GMT
Yeh i know thats why im leaving it this late to post as at 5pm i would have been banned but the counseling is working!!!
kavinoz.
Massive credit goes to Blackpool as i love there philosophy in this league to show no fear but real confidence and arrogance at times in there 'limited ability' in premiership terms although today it was not evident as they were a joy to watch and there results so far back this up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2010 9:14:12 GMT
Good stuff, Jarhead.
Credit to Blackpool they were the much better side throughout. I think we had an off day through the whole side. I doubt that we under-estimated them because they've achieved decent results on the road already, we just had a bad day collectively. It happens sometimes.
On another day that would probably have been a draw if we'd taken one of the many chances we had.
I think Blackpool play without fear cos no-one gave them a chance to stay up. Well done to Holloway for working this into them. It'll be interesting to see if that continues once people start expecting them to stay up and there is pressure on them not to go down. Funny how expectations can affect how a team plays - I think that's what happened to Hull in their first season. They actually had more points than Blackpool at this stage and only stayed up because Newcastle couldn't get a draw at Villa on the last day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2010 9:20:39 GMT
That post is spot on jarhead and all of it is correct imo. adam and vaughan won the game for them, and how basic was it?! they got the ball controlled it and passed it! it aint rocket science but obviously its still too much for our pair of clowns!
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Post by jarhead on Dec 12, 2010 10:26:23 GMT
clyde.
Our two in centre-mid were shocking and were given a lesson in what a centre-mid should be doing.
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Post by southwalesstokie on Dec 12, 2010 10:33:53 GMT
Were we that bad? Didn't get a chance to watch it, as was out getting a bit merry (games are on at 11pm here)!
I was surprised by the result on two levels.
a) that we lost at home to Blackpool
b) I got my Korean missus to keep me updated on the score while I was out (she's well trained!). She told me that it had finished 0-0, so imagine my despair/surprise when I returned home, slightly inebriated, when I find that we lost.
Fucking women and football! Never again! ;D
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 12, 2010 10:43:09 GMT
I thought the Media have Blackpool spot on. They play a very open game and if you are going to beat them you probably need to find the net at least twice.
Ten minutes in i thought they were going to be awkward opponents and it proved to be the case.
Nevertheless how many chances did we miss from good positions?????
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 12, 2010 11:09:43 GMT
The big thing for me, and perhaps why we weren't our usual selves, was that we clearly had several players included who were carrying injuries.
At times, Wilko didn't know which leg to limp on (and that was after 10 minutes), Pennant was clearly struggling (even though he was one of the few to anything) and I thought Rory was carrying a knock as well and commented that he was limping when he came out of the tunnel. What followed was the worst display I can recall from him in the middle of midfield.
We have spent enough money not to have to play injured players. If they aren't fit, leave them out and let others have a go.
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Post by jarhead on Dec 12, 2010 14:25:37 GMT
dave spot on.
playing injured players against blackpool is quite desperate really when we have two FIT midfielders to choose from in whelan or wilson but we all know that delap is only picked because of the throw.
If Pennant was still not right then a FIT Tuncay was the simple solution surely.
Come on TP think about it eh.
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Post by madeleyite on Dec 12, 2010 14:30:50 GMT
We'll get a point at the arse. Its the way we operate. Stick the bet on & fill yer boots gents
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Post by salopstick on Dec 12, 2010 14:31:15 GMT
Jesus, I agree with Jarhead Actually have to say, that's pretty spot on mate. Now where can I find some rope.. Bridgend ;D clever ;D |
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Post by trebor63 on Dec 12, 2010 14:34:27 GMT
I also agree with much of the original post, for me the main difference from the Liverpool and ManCiteh games to todays performance was the lack of tempo.
It was almost as if the players AND fans thought we only had to turn up to win, we just never had that urgency until it was too late. In many ways Blackpool out Stoked us! They got it out of defence very quickly (often a hooth) and then they played some great quick and direct stuff in our final third
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Post by bolders on Dec 12, 2010 15:04:17 GMT
Your missing one point though in all of that jarhead and that is Jones he didn't look interested yesterday someone needs to put a rocket up his arse he was lazy yesterday and it isn't just a one off he has been for sometime, but he usually does something in a match that u can forgive his laid back attitude but not yesterday he did not care.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 12, 2010 15:06:46 GMT
dave spot on. playing injured players against blackpool is quite desperate really when we have two FIT midfielders to choose from in whelan or wilson but we all know that delap is only picked because of the throw. If Pennant was still not right then a FIT Tuncay was the simple solution surely. Come on TP think about it eh. That's bullshit. Delap starts because he is streets ahead of Wilson and Whelan in every aspect of the game bar passing. If he's injured though, yes one of them should start ahead of him. |
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Post by lew86 on Dec 12, 2010 15:12:54 GMT
Tone bangs on about complacency, shame the ayers took no notice yesterday. We looked wank yesterday- do the same next week and we will get fucking anhialated.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Dec 12, 2010 16:29:06 GMT
The disappointing thing for me is that we did not put their gung ho attacking to the sword when we broke. The 4-3-3 formation definately caused us problems in the middle and we seemed to be pulled out of shape at the back giving them loads of space.
Mind you I suppose Liverpool and Arsenal thought the same!
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Post by jarhead on Dec 12, 2010 17:06:22 GMT
dave spot on. playing injured players against blackpool is quite desperate really when we have two FIT midfielders to choose from in whelan or wilson but we all know that delap is only picked because of the throw. If Pennant was still not right then a FIT Tuncay was the simple solution surely. Come on TP think about it eh. That's bullshit. Delap starts because he is streets ahead of Wilson and Whelan in every aspect of the game bar passing. If he's injured though, yes one of them should start ahead of him. So how is it bullshit then,when i said if he(delap) was injured he needed to be replaced or not have started like you said at the end??? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 12, 2010 17:09:46 GMT
That's bullshit. Delap starts because he is streets ahead of Wilson and Whelan in every aspect of the game bar passing. If he's injured though, yes one of them should start ahead of him. So how is it bullshit then,when i said if he(delap) was injured he needed to be replaced or not have started like you said at the end??? "Delap is only picked because of the throw" erm no he isn't which equates to bullshit. |
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Post by fromafar07 on Dec 12, 2010 17:16:00 GMT
I agree jarhead We were poor today but on a different day we could have scored shit loads, it just wasnt to be today but fair play to Blackpool, they look a very good side and they wont go down Now on to Arsenal........ just like Wigan looked a good side, and Albion for 3/4 of the game, and Wolves. ! why, because we allow them to look good !! WE are a good side, but the manager didnt allow us to play like one ! I have to laugh at all the threads that pop asking, "who do we need in January to rectify this" etc. Once again, we can bring the best of the best, but if our manager gets alarmed and scared of Blackpool playing us at home, and he has absolutely no idea on how to counteract such a fearsome side, then ............. |
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Post by Roy Cropper on Dec 12, 2010 17:23:21 GMT
Jesus, I agree with Jarhead Actually have to say, that's pretty spot on mate. Now where can I find some rope.. Bridgend ;D ;D |
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Post by gibby1409 on Dec 12, 2010 17:59:33 GMT
I Think Jarheads review is as well balanced as any I've seen, and that applies to ANY game this season.
Regarding Kenwynne, then I think he's like Rick in so many ways, when he looks like he doesn't care, but I think we need to get off his case a bit. To be completely fair, can anyone remember a decent cross from either of our Wingers? This is what Kenwynne thrives on, it's crosses when he can attack the goal, not always playing with his back to goal.
Anyway onwards, and upwards, lets get this out of our system ,and put it up Wengers Whingers next week.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2010 18:22:29 GMT
Fair play to you Jarhead for the original post long may it continue and i agree with nearly all of it and like you say we need someone next to Whitehead to improve the team imo. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 12, 2010 18:24:14 GMT
Why next to Whitehead? Delap has been better than him all season!
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Actually have to say, that's pretty spot on mate. 
