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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2010 0:41:56 GMT
I tweeted Christian Larrson who is @freddieboswell7 about the Stephen Ireland rumours, he reckons that they are crap but we're after Okaka on a 6 month loan? ???
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Post by PickSCFC on Nov 22, 2010 0:45:21 GMT
well when tuncay goes in jan pulis may look for another striker
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 22, 2010 0:52:55 GMT
Who is Mr Larrson?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 22, 2010 0:56:05 GMT
Whos Okaka?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2010 0:57:42 GMT
Could be pick, if Tunny does go we will definitely need a replacement, really not sure about Okaka though, didn't look up to much at Fulham imo.
Stokelad-Inter & Spartak Nalchik fan. Former football scout and non league coach,Loves Italian,Russian and South American football.Loves Cricket too apparently.
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 22, 2010 1:02:35 GMT
Is he the new hackett?  twitter confuses me! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2010 1:11:28 GMT
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Post by stokecityscott on Nov 22, 2010 2:53:37 GMT
I hope not he is toss.
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Post by nickscfc on Nov 22, 2010 14:14:24 GMT
Bayern iv seen him a few times in Italy...ive always said why dont we go for him..hes the next Fuller we are looking for and only about 20 years old. Really powerful, wins everything in the air..and explosive....did well at Fulham but has more to offer. He wont get in the Roma team for a couple of seasons yet so would be a great move. Think he has similar assets to both Kenwyne and Ric. To the post above, i disagree and would have to question your knowledge of the player. |
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Post by donaldingleton on Nov 22, 2010 14:17:12 GMT
Tunny's going nowhere - fact!
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Post by nickscfc on Nov 22, 2010 14:19:11 GMT
Tunny's going nowhere - fact! Would be utterly ridiculous if we sold Tuncay and the worst thing TP would have done as manager. But i agree...i dont see him going anywhere...in fact i think Tone is starting to appreciate his qualities much more now Tunny is physically stronger. Hope he starts v City. |
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Post by PickSCFC on Nov 22, 2010 14:49:22 GMT
Tunny's going nowhere - fact! Would be utterly ridiculous if we sold Tuncay and the worst thing TP would have done as manager. But i agree...i dont see him going anywhere...in fact i think Tone is starting to appreciate his qualities much more now Tunny is physically stronger. Hope he starts v City. who instead of ??? |
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Post by One-Two on Nov 22, 2010 14:51:17 GMT
Stefano Okaka always used to get signed on loan by Stoke on FM 2010! So maybe it's a sign ;D
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Post by nickscfc on Nov 22, 2010 16:20:36 GMT
Would be utterly ridiculous if we sold Tuncay and the worst thing TP would have done as manager. But i agree...i dont see him going anywhere...in fact i think Tone is starting to appreciate his qualities much more now Tunny is physically stronger. Hope he starts v City. who instead of ??? Pennant will probably be out. If Pennant is ok stick him Tunny up top. Give Ric a go off the bench hes started the last 3 games. Just rotate...they are both great players but Tunny deserves a start at home for once. Hes started something ridiculous like 4 league games at home since we signed him. 2 of which against Wigan and Fulham he was absolutely superb. |
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 22, 2010 16:27:15 GMT
Walters scored 2 goals, so why not pick a player who is full of confidence??
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Post by nickscfc on Nov 22, 2010 16:32:30 GMT
Walters scored 2 goals, so why not pick a player who is full of confidence?? Oh come on mate. I'm delighted for Walters cos he seems such an honest player...but ffs to even begin to compare him with a player of Tuncay's calibre is just silly. Lets put the goals into perspective....would Tuncay have missed the penalty? Would Tuncay have blasted it over from 4 yards with an open goal? Also who set up the one penalty with an absolute world class piece of vision?... If you start a player whos been quite poor this season just because he did well for a few mins then your just bonkers. Walters is decent off the bench....not actually because of his goals...quite the opposite...hes a negative option who will do a decent job chasing lost causes and helping out defensively towards the end of a match. |
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Post by monsoonmoon on Nov 22, 2010 16:33:48 GMT
I tweeted Freddie about Eidur signing when it first broke on here and there were rumblings in the press. He said it was a strong possibility but could be difficult to tie up in time.
He's well connected, so I'll cautiously believe him. Okaka's had a lot of promise since breaking into the Roma side at a young age. My concern is about how much he's developed since he was a 17 year old.
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 22, 2010 16:39:14 GMT
Nick, so you would pick a team based purely on their calibre?
Without taking form, confidence, fitness, morale, character and commitment into consideration?
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Post by nickscfc on Nov 22, 2010 16:40:48 GMT
Nick, so you would pick a team based purely on their calibre? Without taking form, confidence, fitness, morale, character and commitment into consideration? No i would take into consideration everything you have just said...and Tuncay comes out on top in every single one of them with relative ease!!! |
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 22, 2010 16:46:15 GMT
In your opinion Tuncay should be playing in the top 4, so you obviously have a higher opinion of him than a lot of people. Walter has scored more goals, so his form and confidence must be higher. Fitness levels are similar, but Walters has more strength, so he should also have the advantage in that department. Then for character and commitment, one player has worked his way up the leagues and finally got his shot at the Prem, whereas the other runs down the tunnel or gets a taxi home when he isn't numero uno. So I can't see this relative ease, that you can  |
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Post by nickscfc on Nov 22, 2010 16:49:01 GMT
In your opinion Tuncay should be playing in the top 4, so you obviously have a higher opinion of him than a lot of people. Walter has scored more goals, so his form and confidence must be higher. Fitness levels are similar, but Walters has more strength, so he should also have the advantage in that department. Then for character and commitment, one player has worked his way up the leagues and finally got his shot at the Prem, whereas the other runs down the tunnel or gets a taxi home when he isn't numero uno. So I can't see this relative ease, that you can Unbelievable ;D I am just lost for words. |
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Post by liveattheoasis on Nov 22, 2010 16:50:17 GMT
Here we go again ...
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Nov 22, 2010 16:50:57 GMT
In your opinion Tuncay should be playing in the top 4, so you obviously have a higher opinion of him than a lot of people. Walter has scored more goals, so his form and confidence must be higher. Fitness levels are similar, but Walters has more strength, so he should also have the advantage in that department. Then for character and commitment, one player has worked his way up the leagues and finally got his shot at the Prem, whereas the other runs down the tunnel or gets a taxi home when he isn't numero uno. So I can't see this relative ease, that you can Give it a fucking rest. You're like a stuck record. A completely full of shit one. |
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 22, 2010 16:53:19 GMT
True tho Nick, it's easy to throw in comments like 'relative ease' but if you look at your opinion subjectively then surely it must change (I have even left examples which you probably just skimmed through) Instead of just thinking "Player A is crap but Player B is ace. The end." Pineapple: which points do you disagree with? |
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Post by nickscfc on Nov 22, 2010 16:56:46 GMT
True tho Nick, it's easy to throw in comments like 'relative ease' but if you look at your opinion subjectively then surely it must change (I have even left examples which you probably just skimmed through) Instead of just thinking "Player A is crap but Player B is ace. The end." Pineapple: which points do you disagree with? No but this is just common sense prevailing!!!! Tuncay Sanli (played champions league football, reaching the semi-final of Euro 2008 etc) is a far better player than Jonathan Walters. Its not rocket science. It really isnt. Its not a case of me putting Jon down either...ffs its so obvious Jon would probably admit this himself!! |
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 22, 2010 17:00:06 GMT
Yes I agree, Tuncay has got better calibre than Walters. I am not disagreeing with that point!
I'm just saying, there are more things to consider than just calibre (which you even agreed 20 mins ago!)
If we played players purely on there calibre, then Eidur would be starting every game (league winner, cup winner and champions league winner) but taking into consideration his fitness and form, he is far away from the first team.
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Post by nickscfc on Nov 22, 2010 17:05:56 GMT
Yes I agree, Tuncay has got better calibre than Walters. I am not disagreeing with that point! I'm just saying, there are more things to consider than just calibre (which you even agreed 20 mins ago!) If we played players purely on there calibre, then Eidur would be starting every game (league winner, cup winner and champions league winner) but taking into consideration his fitness and form, he is far away from the first team. Then id undoubtadly say Tuncay is fitter (constant tracking back on Saturday helping Wilko, Walters was hopeless on the right against Sunderland and Everton), and id also say Tuncay has got far better more consistant form than Walters by an absolute country mile as well. How you can say Walters has found form because he banged in a peno is absurd mate. Tuncay has been one of our best players EVERY SINGLE match hes played in this season, including pre-season too! |
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Post by sjohank on Nov 22, 2010 20:02:22 GMT
Walters scored 2 goals, so why not pick a player who is full of confidence?? Walters is the perfect sub, isn't he? |
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Post by sjohank on Nov 22, 2010 20:04:03 GMT
In your opinion Tuncay should be playing in the top 4, so you obviously have a higher opinion of him than a lot of people. Walter has scored more goals, so his form and confidence must be higher. Fitness levels are similar, but Walters has more strength, so he should also have the advantage in that department. Then for character and commitment, one player has worked his way up the leagues and finally got his shot at the Prem, whereas the other runs down the tunnel or gets a taxi home when he isn't numero uno. So I can't see this relative ease, that you can Unbelievable ;D I am just lost for words. Yes, it's unbelievable....SOC....  |
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Post by ProudPotter17 on Nov 22, 2010 20:13:03 GMT
Walters ahead of Tuncay?
I fucking despair. Yes ok the guy scored two goals last week, but lets not get ahead of our selves, he's average and with Zabelata suspended, Tuncay has to start.
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