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Post by slother on Oct 10, 2010 11:32:36 GMT
David Mitchell article headed 'Would football really be worse off without its big investors?' www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/10/liverpool-football-hicks-gillettLooks at the motivations of investors such as Hicks/Gillett and how professionalism has changed the game. Especially interesting for someone my age (24) as I can't really remember pre-Premiership football. A commenter below makes the point that Gaelic football remains amateur in Ireland and the whole country is still captivated by it.
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Post by poonthepotter on Oct 10, 2010 15:55:13 GMT
And what would have happened without any of this investment? Would top flight football have stopped? Would tickets to matches be even more expensive? Or would Wayne Rooney just have had to settle for cheaper whores?
;D ;D ;D
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 10, 2010 16:56:47 GMT
And what would have happened without any of this investment? Would top flight football have stopped? Would tickets to matches be even more expensive? Or would Wayne Rooney just have had to settle for cheaper whores? ;D ;D ;D whats cheaper than 50 year old slappers
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Post by canadianmoose on Oct 10, 2010 17:02:58 GMT
David Mitchell article headed 'Would football really be worse off without its big investors?' www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/10/liverpool-football-hicks-gillettLooks at the motivations of investors such as Hicks/Gillett and how professionalism has changed the game. Especially interesting for someone my age (24) as I can't really remember pre-Premiership football. A commenter below makes the point that Gaelic football remains amateur in Ireland and the whole country is still captivated by it. Too bad....the old Division 1 was much more interesting and much less of a media circus. Players were paid well but not the ridiculous amounts we see now and players didn't do the diving and falling over thing. (We hadn't seen it in England until Spurs purchased Klinsmann) Clubs coming up from Division 2 didn't feel like poor relatives and the 'top four' could be any from 9 or 10 teams. As much as I love Stoke being back in the top flight, the PL has a lot to answer for and is why we have clubs in the position that Portsmouth, Leeds, Southampton, Charlton, Liverpool etc now find themselves in.
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Post by supersimmo on Oct 10, 2010 18:13:08 GMT
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Post by swampmongrel on Oct 10, 2010 18:32:42 GMT
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Post by lordb on Oct 11, 2010 12:12:49 GMT
Its a tad disingenuous to suggest diving was non-existent pre Klinsmann
Crooks was a top diver & won penno's for Stoke many a time
Biggins,bless him,was a cracking player but god awful at diving
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Post by apb1 on Oct 11, 2010 15:10:54 GMT
Diving was going on before Crooksy too - Francis Lee was renowned for it.
Klinsmann probably raised the standards, mind. ;D
If I had to choose between a war on tackling and a war on the cheats I know which way I'd go.
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Oct 11, 2010 15:15:55 GMT
diving has now become too acceptable, you punished for not diving now- Etherington at Newcastle, Fuller against Arsenal in the cup.
Back to the original post - without the big foreign investors the English game could be more like Germany's, while we are getting excited about £20 tickets at Bolton the Germans are protesting about having to pay £19
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Post by mica on Oct 11, 2010 18:26:46 GMT
I thought this was a great article on many levels. I've always had the same feeling he has about moneybags investors pumping dosh into clubs, IE that it feels like they're cheating.
I remember the old Div 1 being more fun to watch than the PL. Just as much action, less diving and it didn't have the gulf between the wealthy few and everyone else (well, it did, but not to the same extent.)
Time to mobilise 5 million fans to march on PL headquarters, maybe?
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