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Post by acstokie on Sept 28, 2010 12:21:09 GMT
Unless I am much mistaken we have already hit the woodwork 7 times in just 6 league games- Jones v Wolves, Whelan v Chelsea, Huth, Jones and Fuller v Wet Sham and then Jones twice against Newcastle. I cant ever remember us having a run like that! When you take into account this misfortune, and also the ball over the line v Spurs it makes you think where we would have been if these had all counted.
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Post by RINGO STARR on Sept 28, 2010 12:27:06 GMT
I blame Kitson.
He would have put the balls wide or over which as a result would have meant that we'd not been as unlucky as we have been recently, thus making this update irrelevant just like Dave Kitson's Stoke career.
The useless orange haired moaning steve coppel bumming idiot!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2010 12:28:20 GMT
You say this, but say Jones goal went in against Wolves, do you not think everything might have been different, cause and effect. He probably wouldn't have got injured as things would have been different. No point thinking of what could have happened when if any of them went in it would have effected the others
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Post by acstokie on Sept 28, 2010 12:29:30 GMT
God your right Ringo, I dont ever remember us hitting the post in a game he played! Well played sir!
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 28, 2010 12:29:53 GMT
Danny Collins header hit the bar just before Walters "goal" against Spurs too.
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Post by acstokie on Sept 28, 2010 12:31:09 GMT
You say this, but say Jones goal went in against Wolves, do you not think everything might have been different, cause and effect. He probably wouldn't have got injured as things would have been different. No point thinking of what could have happened when if any of them went in it would have effected the others No you may be right, but im just saying I cant remember us hitting the woodwork so much in such a short period of time!
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Post by RINGO STARR on Sept 28, 2010 12:36:45 GMT
Goping back to the original post, it is quite alarming just how many times we've hit the woodwork to date.
everytime i see the ball crossed in the box and Jones is within distance of the ball, you're half way up of your seat waiting for the net to bulge. One of these days against a smaller defence who can't head a ball, he's going to score 3 or 4 a game. I really believe that.
I Love it!
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Post by acstokie on Sept 28, 2010 12:39:24 GMT
Goping back to the original post, it is quite alarming just how many times we've hit the woodwork to date. everytime i see the ball crossed in the box and Jones is within distance of the ball, you're half way up of your seat waiting for the net to bulge. One of these days against a smaller defence who can't head a ball, he's going to score 3 or 4 a game. I really believe that. I Love it! True mate, he could have easily had 8 in 5 and a bit games already, he is top drawer!
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Post by Chris1863 on Sept 28, 2010 12:42:11 GMT
I blame Kitson. He would have put the balls wide or over which as a result would have meant that we'd not been as unlucky as we have been recently, thus making this update irrelevant just like Dave Kitson's Stoke career. The useless orange haired moaning steve coppel bumming idiot! ;D
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Post by RINGO STARR on Sept 28, 2010 12:43:33 GMT
Top drawer indeed fella.
One thing I didn't expect when we signed him ws for him to be prolific. But as one Sunderland fan said on thier messageboards when he signed for us.
Sticking him on the end of Rory throws and Etherington/Pennant crosses is like handing Stoke 20 goals a season. Or something along those lines.
Long may it continue.
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Post by therethere on Sept 28, 2010 13:29:34 GMT
Top drawer indeed fella. One thing I didn't expect when we signed him ws for him to be prolific. But as one Sunderland fan said on thier messageboards when he signed for us. Sticking him on the end of Rory throws and Etherington/Pennant crosses is like handing Stoke 20 goals a season. Or something along those lines. Long may it continue.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 28, 2010 13:54:57 GMT
It's rubbish when hitting the woodwork is considered to be on target. How can it be on target when it isn't on target?
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Post by ColonelMustard on Sept 28, 2010 13:58:27 GMT
It's rubbish when hitting the woodwork is considered to be on target. How can it be on target when it isn't on target? I was wondering this the other day. So from the tone of your post I guess you know it counts. That's daft.
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Post by acstokie on Sept 28, 2010 13:59:00 GMT
It's rubbish when hitting the woodwork is considered to be on target. How can it be on target when it isn't on target? I dont think it is is it? The stats said one shot on target v Castle.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 28, 2010 14:02:52 GMT
Well there have deffo been the shots counted before and hitting the woodwork was called on target. It might be open to interpretation for the indioviodual. But those who interpret woodwork as on target are being childish.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Sept 28, 2010 14:11:35 GMT
Its pathetic isnt it? the goal is 24x8 and we keep hitting a piece of wood 4" wide.. c,mon Stoke ffs! ???
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Post by acstokie on Sept 28, 2010 14:12:54 GMT
Its pathetic isnt it? the goal is 24x8 and we keep hitting a piece of wood 4" wide.. c,mon Stoke ffs! ??? Pulis out!!
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 28, 2010 14:14:37 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 28, 2010 14:16:33 GMT
Danny Collins header hit the bar just before Walters "goal" against Spurs too. Yep. That'll be the 8th then, royland. Amazing stuff really
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Sept 28, 2010 14:41:04 GMT
So if a shot hits the inside of the post, or underside of the bar, and goes in then it was a goal scored from an off-target attempt?
I'm nailing my colours squarely to the 'hitting the woodwork is on-target' side of the debate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2010 14:45:48 GMT
So if a shot hits the inside of the post, or underside of the bar, and goes in then it was a goal scored from an off-target attempt? I'm nailing my colours squarely to the 'hitting the woodwork is on-target' side of the debate. It's not on-target though, is it? If you are aiming for the goal that is.
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Post by PickSCFC on Sept 28, 2010 14:46:10 GMT
So if a shot hits the inside of the post, or underside of the bar, and goes in then it was a goal scored from an off-target attempt? I'm nailing my colours squarely to the 'hitting the woodwork is on-target' side of the debate. if you hit the post then you havnt hit the target, the target is getting it over the white line, if it hits the post and goes over the line then you have hit the target
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Post by mumph on Sept 28, 2010 14:47:24 GMT
'So if a shot hits the inside of the post, or underside of the bar, and goes in then it was a goal scored from an off-target attempt?
I'm nailing my colours squarely to the 'hitting the woodwork is on-target' side of the debate.'
Agreed.
It's a bit like getting shot through the clothes. You aren't dead but you wouldn't half shit yourself.
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Post by apb1 on Sept 28, 2010 14:49:26 GMT
So if a shot hits the inside of the post, or underside of the bar, and goes in then it was a goal scored from an off-target attempt? I'm nailing my colours squarely to the 'hitting the woodwork is on-target' side of the debate. If you nailed them on the crossbar - you missed the target.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Sept 28, 2010 14:49:53 GMT
How about if it: hits the cross bar and comes down it was on target hits the cross bar and goes up it was off target hits the post and comes back across the goal it was on target hits the post and goes away from goal it was off target Just a compromise
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 28, 2010 14:51:52 GMT
It's a bit like a snooker shot that rattles about in the jaws of the pocket before going in.
I suppose it's all about the end result.
If it goes in, it's job done and it counts. If not, it doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2010 14:52:28 GMT
If a shot hits the woodwork and goes in – on target If a shot hits the woodwork and does not go in – off target
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 28, 2010 15:01:03 GMT
Amazing - and that doesn't even count another one he had against WHU (looping header over Green which came off the bar) because he was offside...
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Post by stokebill on Sept 28, 2010 15:03:26 GMT
Danny Collins header hit the bar just before Walters "goal" against Spurs too. Yep. That'll be the 8th then, royland. Amazing stuff really Unless I've missed it on this thread, Huth hit the post against West Ham didn't he. We hit the woodwork four times in that game, a Jones offside header being the 4th.
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Post by RINGO STARR on Sept 28, 2010 15:03:42 GMT
If a shot hits the woodwork and goes in – on target If a shot hits the woodwork and does not go in – off target This explains the logic behind Lampards disallowed goal against ze jarmans. It all makes sense now
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