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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2010 21:45:40 GMT
Which team(s) did you/do you enjoy watching the most..?
You may recall when football was a 'mans' game and people used to smoke Park Drive and Woodbines and kids wore knitted 'bob hats' whilst screaming 'In the Liverpool slums'...
'Designer gear' had still not been invented and sheepskin coats were all the rage for those who drove cars...
Marvellous...Bloody marvellous and all masterminded by a man from Wistaston , Crewe.
(It's an old buggers thread)
mumf
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Post by calgarystoker on Sept 19, 2010 22:16:45 GMT
certainly without a shadow of doubt the 70s the prawn cocktail brigade have alot to answer for ,but if you werent fortunate to see through being to young these are good times as crowds are proving it so its best not to compare just enjoy it for what and when it is .
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Post by stokesyboy01 on Sept 19, 2010 22:20:25 GMT
certainly without a shadow of doubt the 70s the prawn cocktail brigade have alot to answer for ,but if you werent fortunate to see through being to young these are good times as crowds are proving it so its best not to compare just enjoy it for what and when it is . Is that right that stokies in canada have got daft pony tails??? Luvs ya m8 and ur family, pm me m8 |
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Post by jonnynico on Sept 19, 2010 22:28:27 GMT
No contest, 70's easy. Hard men and class footballers. Can't see it happening again in my lifetime.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 19, 2010 22:29:45 GMT
The 70's team were far better to watch......Huddy picking the ball up from the goalie, slick pass to a proper winger, cross to Big John or Jimmy Greenhoff followed by a leaping thunderous header or Jimmy overhead volley into the back of the net....Boothen roar.. Wrights pie on the way home. What a time to live! No fat kids or wobbly women, a weeks groceries for thirty bob....new house £3k, mortgage £20 a month. Come back Waddo we love you!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2010 22:34:06 GMT
Never the less , and more importantly it is a great time if your're a young kid growing up in these 'heady' times. Peter Coates is leaving a legacy to all those young kids out there whose memories will love on for future generations to enjoy.
Hopefully we will see more Stoke shirts in the City than glory hunting Man Utd & Liverpool shirts that we have done in the last twenty years or so....
Something locally to be pride of....and thats the important thing...The Next Generation.!
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Post by rambo61 on Sept 19, 2010 22:36:58 GMT
Am I the only one who misses the muddy pitches from the 70,s?? Fantastic sliding tackles on mudbath pitches was what football was all about! The thought of Smithy not covered in mud just doesn,t seem right!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2010 22:40:46 GMT
Am I the only one who misses the muddy pitches from the 70,s?? Fantastic sliding tackles on mudbath pitches was what football was all about! The thought of Smithy not covered in mud just doesn,t seem right!! ;D You mean like Derby County.....Oh Awwwwful...! Hereford United...A ploughed field. Shrewsbury Town...An Island in the River Severn... |
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Sept 19, 2010 23:11:11 GMT
Just think of the League Cup '72 season.
3 games to beat Man. Utd
4 games to beat WHU.
Then the final against Chelsea.
A long way to go to emulate those feelings
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Post by Coll40 on Sept 20, 2010 1:06:31 GMT
70's.
Absolutely no doubt whatsoever
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 20, 2010 2:01:07 GMT
I always enjoy reading these threads, although '72 was 16 years before I was born.
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Post by kentpotter on Sept 20, 2010 7:06:07 GMT
How about imagining a crossover? The sight of Smithy, Bluto, Pejic and Marshy clogging Rooney? Mouthwatering stuff!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 20, 2010 7:22:10 GMT
I enjoyed the early half of the 70s rather more than now for a whole load of reasons:
1. We had a competitive team for the first half of the 70s - 2 FA Cup Semi finals, The League Cup, being in he UEFA Cup and in contention for the league title. What's not to like?
2. There was a much more level playing field than now - middle sized clubs like Stoke could start each season in the hope of winning something - and on our day we could beat any team in the League home or away - as could many other clubs like ours.
3. The players played for fun much more than they do now. The maximum wage had been abloished and most players earned a decent wage - but not ridiculously more than my dad did.
On the other hand - like everyone else, I do see things through rose tinted spectacles. I'm probably safer than I was at games in those days. Burnden Park, Hillsborough and Hysel are not likely to happen again. Even though the stadia are needlessly all seater, they are more comfortable and I do get a perfect view at most grounds. Another great thing is the way the internet has meant that exiles like me in the Lakes) or even those in Oz and Afghanistan) can easily keep up to date with what is happening at Stoke.
On balance I have to say that despite the way football has changed I still would hate to miss my regular fix of football and I still love the fact that we are back in the top flight after all these yars.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 20, 2010 8:21:44 GMT
I enjoyed the early half of the 70s rather more than now for a whole load of reasons: 1. We had a competitive team for the first half of the 70s - 2 FA Cup Semi finals, The League Cup, being in he UEFA Cup and in contention for the league title. What's not to like? 2. There was a much more level playing field than now - middle sized clubs like Stoke could start each season in the hope of winning something - and on our day we could beat any team in the League home or away - as could many other clubs like ours. 3. The players played for fun much more than they do now. The maximum wage had been abloished and most players earned a decent wage - but not ridiculously more than my dad did. On the other hand - like everyone else, I do see things through rose tinted spectacles. I'm probably safer than I was at games in those days. Burnden Park, Hillsborough and Hysel are not likely to happen again. Even though the stadia are needlessly all seater, they are more comfortable and I do get a perfect view at most grounds. Another great thing is the way the internet has meant that exiles like me in the Lakes) or even those in Oz and Afghanistan) can easily keep up to date with what is happening at Stoke. On balance I have to say that despite the way football has changed I still would hate to miss my regular fix of football and I still love the fact that we are back in the top flight after all these yars. + 1 Excellent post  |
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 20, 2010 8:36:17 GMT
I agree with forny's post. The only thing I prefer is the team of the early 70's and the atmosphere and excitement of matchday.Also the genuine hope of a cup run all the way. A home game at Stoke then up to the Golden Torch and after that The twisted Wheel in Manchester.It was one hell of a weekend. But I didnt enjoy getting a smack and losing a tooth outside Maine Rd, dodging a hail of bottle and stones along London Rd, helping a mate out who was getting kicked by 4 scummy Maunre fans at Stoke station. It was like a battlefield in and around football grounds.
The Prem today is an exciting product mainly because of all the overseas stars and the hype and errmmm...........not much else really. The hype and glamour of football has changed the profile of crowds and now there are lots more squealing girls and tourists taking their snapshots of the match from 50metres away.Sky have made footy more accesible and enjoyable for the couch potato but MOD is quite bizarrely almost the same nearly 40 years on.
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on Sept 20, 2010 9:23:23 GMT
It's still feels like a dream too me to be back in the top division, I'm able too watch every game.
But footballing wise the 70's team takes it.
In 35 yrs time I'll be 81(if I get there) I don't think I'll be saying on the Oatcake, can you remember Delap, Whitehead, Collins, Sidbe, Whelan, Wilko, Higgy, Pugh and the list goes on, what players they were.
Oh I might mention that crap right back we have.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 20, 2010 9:33:33 GMT
70s easy.
On their day they were capable of beating anyone,5-0 v Arsenal is one example.
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Post by waitingforwaddo on Sept 20, 2010 10:20:10 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 20, 2010 10:25:14 GMT
No contest.
I do not enjoy watching our current set up. It's mostly unbearable to watch.
Grinding out results in the most one dimensional football I have ever witnessed in 40 years of viewing
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Post by waitingforwaddo on Sept 20, 2010 10:43:04 GMT
Spit +1.
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Post by white wall boy on Sept 20, 2010 11:37:24 GMT
in the seventies you had the old stoke end, never stood on it myself but I've always dreamt of it, it just looks glorious in all the old footage and one of my favorite pictures of all time with sir stan dribbling down the wing in front of all its glory !
Chances are you'd probably get a slap from an away fan if you stood there most weeks but hey ho you pays your money you take your choice
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Post by stokiejohn on Sept 20, 2010 11:49:56 GMT
Has to be the 70's ( first half ).
Anyone who was a regular on the boothen , ( or sitting down drinking through the game as i remember many doing ? Does anyone recall them? ) in particular , will know those days were pure magic - Hudson . Greenhoff Smithy Ritchie etc etc .
But it wasnt just the players - football is ( was ?!) a working class game and standing up with your mates was the only way to watch a game.
Sure many " oldies " like me will remember one of the reasons there was lots of trouble then after home games was the police would let the away fans out just as we were passing ? !
Bring back standing areas - most away fans stand anyway !
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Post by Binndy on Sept 20, 2010 12:46:44 GMT
All of us oldies have fond memories of the 70s, but i really do think stoke city will be a top 8 team well established in the PL over the next 3 seasons.
I cant help but think that us oldies are really, thugs at heart. Reading the above we all seemed to like " dirty"football. Mud, the dirty tackles.Fights after the match.Today is not the same. Arsene wengers comments and a few grass stains.
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 20, 2010 15:59:38 GMT
In 35 yrs time I'll be 81(if I get there) I don't think I'll be saying on the Oatcake, can you remember Delap, Whitehead, Collins, Sidbe, Whelan, Wilko, Higgy, Pugh and the list goes on, what players they were. I'd go for the current experience, only because it is what we have right now. I cherish my memories of all the good times in my life, but I am not one to keep looking backwards with longing. I have found it makes for a happier life. By the way Cyprus, you may not be saying remember Pugh et al, but you may well be saying remember Fuller, Ethers, ShawX, Jones, Abdy, etc. For me it's enough just to enjoy them right now rather than try to compare them to Greenhoff, Huddy, Smith, Ritchie, etc. |
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 20, 2010 16:03:47 GMT
I would love to be a kid now. In the 1970's Star Soccer and the Soccer Stars in Action sticker album were about as exciting as it got. And if you wanted a `replica' jersey (using the term loosely) it was off to Abbott and Mould in the Newcastle arcade for a heavy cotton effort which weighed 1/2 cwt when it rained and the sleeves extended by two metres. But... What legacy is the club creating this time around? After the fall from grace in the mid 80's Stoke were still thought of kindly by many fans of other clubs for great support, yes, but also for an appreciation of the way football should be played. And that was because of the football the team played at its peak in the 1970's. The media helped to propagate the image. The legacy now is of an ugly duckling team, over-physical, over-reliant on long balls and long-throws, and not much loved by anyone outside of Stoke-on-Trent. Again the media are helping to propagate the image. Does anyone really care? We all like to be liked, don't we? Remember the team of 71-74 wasn't built overnight. Remember the Waddo Wall? Remember Smithies reputation? Remember being called a bunch of old rejects from other teams? This is our 3rd year in the Prem. TP's still got some time to craft his version of the 71-74 team. |
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Post by guernseydave on Sept 20, 2010 16:06:20 GMT
Getting pissed on Arctic Light, smoking 5 shit sticks or if lucky 10 no6 getting crushed in the Boothen, being happy you weren't pissed on at half time, a ruck in the graveyard and then up anley duck to the Tontine or the Vine if you wanted 'ahem' funny smelling roll ups and a grope at the bus station before you went home. Plus we were actually pretty good.
Whats not to love about the mid to late 70's apart from the Rubettes of course, oh and the Bay City fucking Rolllers
GD
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Post by scfc2010 on Sept 20, 2010 16:16:09 GMT
ive only seen lats 90's early naughties unfortunately  and in terms of teams i like to watch , im enjoying watching blackpool live out thier dreams and trying to survive , also i like to watch Man City and thier new multi million pound team |
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 20, 2010 17:38:18 GMT
"TP's still got some time to craft his version of the 71-74 team." Will that really ever happen? One of TP's strengths is his dogmatic approach - he never has and never will change his way of playing (which is and has been, without argument, mostly effective throughout his managerial career). But to wait for TP to create a team where style triumphs ahead of substance is more futile than waiting for Godot. What we have now we will keep. Not necessarily for the worse in terms of our continued presence in the Premiership, but certainly for the worse as regards our ongoing reputation and how others come to regard us. Are you Fromafar?  Sorry I have to disagree. We have already evolved. Ethers has been a great addition and is being used in his proper role. A huge change from Pericard or Cresswell on the wing. As Waddo cobbled together the pieces of his team, he had to adopt different tactics to allow for the areas where the team was lacking. There is plenty of evidence that TP's tactics are slowly changing also as we get better players. I laugh at those who want style over substance. I far prefer to first have substance and then slowly polish it with style till we have a perfect blend. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 20, 2010 18:00:09 GMT
Whats not to love about the mid to late 70's apart from the Rubettes of course, oh and the Bay City fucking Rolllers GD David Cassidy, The Osmonds? Despite the great team of the seventies there was definately more of an edge to the matchday experience and if you were driving it didn't stop you drinking! I've stood on the old Stoke End, when young, the Boothen but the place i loved most was the Boothen Paddock in which there were a lot of characters! The old supporters club, The Sea Lion, Owd Hut, Longton (stool jumping was mental!), Watching MOTD in The Place. I guess watching Stoke sober is the main difference and it aint as good! :-P |
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Post by truckerged on Sept 20, 2010 18:11:01 GMT
cant comment about the 70'sas i didnt start to go regulary until 79 but what about the team we had in the early 80's? mark chamberlain,micky thomas,sammy macclroy,oooh georgie berry foxy,we were good enough to give any team a game one of the most memorable games for me was liverpol at home 1-1 mickey thomas scored a screamer infront of the old stoke end where i was sat with all scoucers around me [how i didnt get filled in that day i will never know!!]also there wasnt the massive gap between the top four and the rest of the division which we see today
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