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Post by wigginbird on Aug 31, 2010 19:42:19 GMT
Multiple players on £35k-£40K a week (that we are paying them)
Kenwyne
Tuncay
Huth
Faye
Gudjohnson
Rest of the first teamers on £20K-£30K easily
Paying significant chunks of the wages of players that no longer play for us
Kitson was on 25k, Liam on 20k, and I doubt if Pompy are paying more than £10K to each.
We must be on the very edge of what our current revenue streams can sustain, and would need a fire sale if we went down for more than 1 season.
I also worry how long our current season ticket prices are sustainable.....
Sorry to put a dampener on things, but we really have to consider these things
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2010 19:43:10 GMT
Multiple players on £35k-£40K a week (that we are paying them) Kenwyne Tuncay Huth Faye Gudjohnson Rest of the first teamers on £20K-£30K easily Paying significant chunks of the wages of players that no longer play for us Kitson was on 25k, Liam on 20k, and I doubt if Pompy are paying more than £10K to each. We must be on the very edge of what our current revenue streams can sustain, and would need a fire sale if we went down for more than 1 season. I also worry how long our current season ticket prices are sustainable..... Sorry to put a dampener on things, but we really have to consider these things Is there another way to "push on" in this league Dave? |
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Post by knype on Aug 31, 2010 19:43:27 GMT
Multiple players on £35k-£40K a week (that we are paying them) Kenwyne Tuncay Huth Faye Gudjohnson Rest of the first teamers on £20K-£30K easily Paying significant chunks of the wages of players that no longer play for us Kitson was on 25k, Liam on 20k, and I doubt if Pompy are paying more than £10K to each. We must be on the very edge of what our current revenue streams can sustain, and would need a fire sale if we went down for more than 1 season. I also worry how long our current season ticket prices are sustainable..... Sorry to put a dampener on things, but we really have to consider these things Pretty certain that PC and Scholes would realise this and would not over-spend! |
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Post by march4 on Aug 31, 2010 19:44:00 GMT
Uncle Peter's wealth is increasing by £20M per month.
If he wants to spend some of that on us then why should we worry??
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Post by amathus on Aug 31, 2010 19:44:59 GMT
at least they are loans as opposed to spending millions upon millions on players with 3-4 yr contracts.
Liam's and kitson are of the wage bill.
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Post by boothy on Aug 31, 2010 19:46:00 GMT
Beattie was on 40k, and I doubt that Faye is on that much. Kenwyne is on 30k too.
We still have a low wage bill compared to the majority of other clubs in this league.
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Post by wigginbird on Aug 31, 2010 19:46:14 GMT
Liam's and kitson are of the wage bill. are they fuck, there is no way Pompy have matched their wages, we are paying a significant chunk of them still |
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Post by apb1 on Aug 31, 2010 19:47:17 GMT
What's our wage bill then?
How much is our TV income this season?
Till you can be bothered to work out some ballpark figures, I won't bother getting worried ;D
Plus we're gonna sell loads of those shitty shirts now, with Pennant or Gudjohnsen on them...might even get a fan base back in Iceland.
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Post by wigginbird on Aug 31, 2010 19:47:59 GMT
Beattie was on 40k, and I doubt that Faye is on that much. Kenwyne is on 30k too. Beattie was on £35K, Faye is on over £30K, and Kenwyne was on £60K @ Sunderland, to which they still contribute £20K, so I guess that means we are paying him £40k |
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Post by scfcloyalist on Aug 31, 2010 19:48:28 GMT
shut up your pigging moaning!, if you want to moan about how much we spend on wages then dont go simple. the fact that our owner is one of the richest men in england proves that we wont go into the shit like many others.
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Post by begovicnumber1 on Aug 31, 2010 19:49:52 GMT
For once, Dave, I think you've got a point. If Pulis is going to stack his squad full of £40k to £50k a week earners, surely those on the periphery need to be youngsters rather than the likes of Tonge, Soares, Davies etc etc?
Furthermore, I'm not overly convinced that Pulis knows how to utilise Gudjonsen to make him represent value at a £2m. Similarly, Tuncay cost £5m and is picking up £2m per year for a bit part role.
Interesting times.
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Post by banburypotter on Aug 31, 2010 19:49:57 GMT
Liam's and kitson are of the wage bill. are they fuck, there is no way Pompy have matched their wages, we are paying a significant chunk of them still but, knowing the way we robbed sunderland for kj, perhaps monaco and zaragoza are paying a significant chunk of eg's and pennants wages. therefore we are probably not a lot worse off ??? |
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Post by icelandpotter on Aug 31, 2010 19:51:05 GMT
ID, I can tell you Huth and Tuncay are on a lot more than what you've guessed at.
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Post by wigginbird on Aug 31, 2010 19:51:55 GMT
but, knowing the way we robbed sunderland for kj, perhaps monaco and zaragoza are paying a significant chunk of eg's and pennants wages. therefore we are probably not a lot worse off ??? I've heard EG was on £75K @ Monaco, and we are paying half ..... thats still almost £40K a week |
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Post by wigginbird on Aug 31, 2010 19:53:21 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 31, 2010 19:53:24 GMT
well it aint my money and I trust PC to know what he can and cant afford so I wont be loosing any sleep over it
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Post by fromafar07 on Aug 31, 2010 19:53:37 GMT
Multiple players on £35k-£40K a week (that we are paying them) Kenwyne Tuncay Huth Faye Gudjohnson Rest of the first teamers on £20K-£30K easily Paying significant chunks of the wages of players that no longer play for us Kitson was on 25k, Liam on 20k, and I doubt if Pompy are paying more than £10K to each. We must be on the very edge of what our current revenue streams can sustain, and would need a fire sale if we went down for more than 1 season. I also worry how long our current season ticket prices are sustainable..... Sorry to put a dampener on things, but we really have to consider these things yes mother we do have to think of these things dont we ??!! but gotta pay to play comes to mind! added revenue from finishing higher in the league. cup runs etc due to these signings. we could nto sign anybody and not increase the payroll, MAYBE stay up, finish 16th or 17th, would that ease your mind ?? |
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 31, 2010 19:53:45 GMT
Thing is you have to do it in this league. If you dont then you might as well reserve your relegation place early
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 31, 2010 19:56:06 GMT
I think we've got the balance spot on this window. Too survive we have to have some players on 40k-50k or else we'll be going back to the Championship at least if the worst happened we could rid ourselves of GJ and Jp straight away. Look at West Hams wage bill then tell me we're in trouble.
What maybe your forgetting is we've got rid of a few whose wages have been taken off our bill in particular Beattie, Kitson, Lawro and Griff.
I'd say we're very conservative bar the likes of Blackpool.
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Post by surreystokie on Aug 31, 2010 19:58:27 GMT
I'm all for good housekeeping but don't see any immediate worries, ID. Firstly it makes sense to pay high wages, if there is no transfer fee. What's more, if on loan, we can cancel in six or ten months time. If we were to be relegated, we would 'earn' up to £48M from parachute payment alone and the better players would leave, anyhow. So no four year debt there. We have already collected £13M from Sky, this season, as the basic payment, £30M to come, whatever our final position and that's only Sky money, not sponsorship deals or even ticket monies. Fear ye not, ID. We are doing ok. Peter has it under control.  |
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Post by adredandwhite on Aug 31, 2010 19:59:16 GMT
Only £3 mill spent today in transfer fees. If we'd have spent £10 to £15 mill today as was expected that would relate to £200,000 to £300,000 per week. thats what I call a saving.
Hull paid £5 mill for Bullard and put him on £50k per week in there first year that was a stupid decision due to a novice chairman, don't think Coates would go down that route.
Get back in your box
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Post by whelan_6 on Aug 31, 2010 19:59:21 GMT
on the season ticket bit, I don't mind an increase as long as the club keeps pushing on in the right direction. this is by far the best stoke side i've ever seen.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 31, 2010 19:59:24 GMT
I think you raise good issues and had Tunay gone it may have been more balanced , however we have paid out very little in fees to balance the wages, KJ is £2m per year Walters £2.7 and maybe small fees in the balance to Pompey and the loans but nothing much , It would be a big worry if we go down as for ST prices they are amongst the best in the league
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Post by wigginbird on Aug 31, 2010 19:59:49 GMT
What maybe your forgetting is we've got rid of a few whose wages have been taken off our bill in particular Beattie, Kitson, Lawro and Griff. I'd say we're very conservative bar the likes of Blackpool. Why do people keep saying we have got Kitson and Liam off the wage bill, do you honestly believe that pompy have matched their £25K and £20K a week wages ? No they haven't they can't afford to, and these players haven't just taken a wage cut, they are being subsidised by Stoke City FC |
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Post by Orbs on Aug 31, 2010 20:04:03 GMT
I'm all for good housekeeping but don't see any immediate worries, ID. Firstly it makes sense to pay high wages, if there is no transfer fee. What's more, if on loan, we can cancel in six or ten months time. If we were to be relegated, we would 'earn' up to £48M from parachute payment alone and the better players would leave, anyhow. So no four year debt there. We have already collected £13M from Sky, this season, as the basic payment, £30M to come, whatever our final position and that's only Sky money, not sponsorship deals or even ticket monies. Fear ye not, ID. We are doing ok. Peter has it under control. /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ This. Nice one Mon. |
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Post by prettyricky on Aug 31, 2010 20:04:33 GMT
Multiple players on £35k-£40K a week (that we are paying them) Kenwyne Tuncay Huth Faye Gudjohnson Rest of the first teamers on £20K-£30K easily Paying significant chunks of the wages of players that no longer play for us Kitson was on 25k, Liam on 20k, and I doubt if Pompy are paying more than £10K to each. We must be on the very edge of what our current revenue streams can sustain, and would need a fire sale if we went down for more than 1 season. I also worry how long our current season ticket prices are sustainable..... Sorry to put a dampener on things, but we really have to consider these things Coates far 2 smart and he's worth 400million squid so I would imagine no with a few players on 40K we are in no danger at all |
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Aug 31, 2010 20:11:00 GMT
I'm not worried about this in the slighest. Coates isn't stupid and I honestly don't believe that he would sanction any deals that could potentially jeopardise the future of the football club. All in all, a job VERY well done.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 31, 2010 20:13:30 GMT
Dave is partly right - we should be careful with the wage committments we take on. But there are three positives. 1. We have spent far less on transfer fees than might have been expected this window. Jones £8 million - but at the rate of £2 million per year. This year £2 million Walters £2.75 million This year £2.75 million Wilson - we can only guess but cash, say, £2 million? Pennant and Eidur are loans. Ok there will be hidden costs - loan fees, signing on fees etc but the transfer fees for this summer amount to £6.75 million - far less than in previous years. 2. We have shifted some players off the wage bill (albeit for some we are still paying part wages) and there will be further players going out on loan in addition to the many who are already out on loan. 3. There has been an increase in the TV money this season - not sure of the exact figure but I have a figure of £6 million in mind before any increase in place money. The thing that has characterised Coates' second coming is financial prudence. So much so that we managed a small operating profit in our first year in the Prem (that is a profit on our trading activity excluding the purchase and capital works on the stadium and training ground). We'll be ok Coates (and Scholes) will see to that. PS - I reckon we could see some decent level of spending in January as well.  |
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Post by mistersausage on Aug 31, 2010 20:14:55 GMT
at least they are loans as opposed to spending millions upon millions on players with 3-4 yr contracts. Liam's and kitson are of the wage bill. I was thinking the same. If it all goes tits up at least we aren't going to be paying players for fuck all for 3 years plus. Not only that but we have a good base of core second string players who would do well in the (whispers) championship. Now we have some extra quality, supply, and firepower I don't think we will go down. Blackpool, Wet Sham, and one other for me now. |
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Post by mattface on Aug 31, 2010 20:21:05 GMT
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