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Post by StokieBoy31 on Jul 13, 2010 0:19:52 GMT
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Post by salifdiao on Jul 13, 2010 0:45:51 GMT
Gary O'Neil is a far better option than Ledley ever was.
I can see this coming off but Lawrence wont leave for a championship team thats a fact.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 13, 2010 0:55:53 GMT
He is Gary but he's still not a step up on any of our first team midfielders really. If he and 3/4 quality midfielders came he'd be a good squad signing. For the first team we need better imo.
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Post by salifdiao on Jul 13, 2010 1:04:16 GMT
He is Gary but he's still not a step up on any of our first team midfielders really. If he and 3/4 quality midfielders came he'd be a good squad signing. For the first team we need better imo. I think O'Neil is a step up from Whelan / Delap / Whitehead |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 13, 2010 1:07:41 GMT
I disagree.  |
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Post by prettyricky on Jul 13, 2010 1:14:53 GMT
personally i prefer lozza heard a lot a good stuff about o'neil but he's never really impressed me
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Post by salifdiao on Jul 13, 2010 1:22:07 GMT
O'Neil would be ideal for us, he can play a bit and get stuck in and can cover in the middle and on the right.
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Post by stokelad84 on Jul 13, 2010 1:24:57 GMT
O'Neil will play on the right
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Post by salifdiao on Jul 13, 2010 1:28:19 GMT
O'Neil will play on the right You are probably right with that IF liam goes and we cannot entice anyone better. Personally i would prefer him in the middle with Delap or Whitehead. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 13, 2010 3:39:40 GMT
Liam going there, will be like joining Celtic anyway. ;D
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Post by fentonstokie on Jul 13, 2010 4:54:11 GMT
Gary O'Neil is a far better option than Ledley ever was. I can see this coming off but Lawrence wont leave for a championship team thats a fact. Liam has got to realise though that Wolves or Celtic aint coming in for him. When he was linked to both clubs he started getting ahead of himself and was quoted as saying let me go. Well Stoke said you can but it turns out it was just paper talk and no one really wants him(even us nowit seems). A move to Boro should be ideal for him. He'll get games be working with a good coach and theres a dame good chance he'll win the league or at least promotion this season. O'neal i'm not sure on but i see as and upgrade on LL and is more proven than what Ledley would have been. |
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Post by fortressbrit on Jul 13, 2010 5:59:45 GMT
Gary O'Neil is a far better option than Ledley ever was. I can see this coming off but Lawrence wont leave for a championship team thats a fact. Liam has got to realise though that Wolves or Celtic aint coming in for him. When he was linked to both clubs he started getting ahead of himself and was quoted as saying let me go. Well Stoke said you can but it turns out it was just paper talk and no one really wants him(even us nowit seems). A move to Boro should be ideal for him. He'll get games be working with a good coach and theres a dame good chance he'll win the league or at least promotion this season. O'neal i'm not sure on but i see as and upgrade on LL and is more proven than what Ledley would have been. 2 weeks ago liam told me he was going to celtic. |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 13, 2010 6:05:07 GMT
The problem will be Middlesbrough convincing Liam to join them. From our point of view it would be an excellent move. Liam was a brilliant signing for Stoke but it seems he will have to move for a number of reasons. He contributed little to nothing last season and O'Neil would be much more of an asset to us. Losing a player who no longer wants to be here and gaining a player with every reason to want to prove himself again in the Premier League is a no brainer. People who question if O'Neil would be an improvement on Liam have either forgotten just how little Liam contributed last season or have forgotten that O'Neil was a good Premier League player until very recently. It makes perfect sense and I hope it happens.
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Post by kinkyjohnfowler on Jul 13, 2010 7:32:53 GMT
I think that O'Neill would a great signing for us, he's always been a player I've admired. His goal tally would also come in useful as it's shown for Pompy in the past.
If Lawrence wants to go then let him, though I agree with Hackett and just can't see him turning out for a championship side. Especially as he seems to start more games for Ireland than he does for Stoke.
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Post by dadofsam on Jul 13, 2010 7:52:55 GMT
O'Neil has been coming to Stoke for longer than Ledley, it's a sign of how desparate we are that his name has cropped up again. The game once again has changed from who we want to who we can get, and he's one.
Portsmouth old boy again.
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on Jul 13, 2010 8:03:32 GMT
He is Gary but he's still not a step up on any of our first team midfielders really. If he and 3/4 quality midfielders came he'd be a good squad signing. For the first team we need better imo. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D That's funny. Least he can pass a ball. |
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Post by Bick on Jul 13, 2010 8:05:35 GMT
Would be a good signing IMO!.... ... but Brough?... I think most spell it Boro   |
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Post by Irish Stokie on Jul 13, 2010 8:10:51 GMT
O'neill would be an excellent signing and would improve the team and is better then what we currently have at our disposal for CM and RM. I cant see Liam heading to the Champ though, surely one of the newly promoted teams would make a move for him at the very least?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 13, 2010 8:12:56 GMT
I doubt we'd really be that interested (like Ledley) in O'Neil, if we were expected to hand over (a lot of) cold hard cash for him.
It seems to me, that he'd be another one (again like Ledley) where if we can shift some of our dead wood and bring in another decent, solid squad player without breaking the bank then we will try to do so.
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Post by fentonstokie on Jul 13, 2010 8:43:19 GMT
Liam has got to realise though that Wolves or Celtic aint coming in for him. When he was linked to both clubs he started getting ahead of himself and was quoted as saying let me go. Well Stoke said you can but it turns out it was just paper talk and no one really wants him(even us nowit seems). A move to Boro should be ideal for him. He'll get games be working with a good coach and theres a dame good chance he'll win the league or at least promotion this season. O'neal i'm not sure on but i see as and upgrade on LL and is more proven than what Ledley would have been. 2 weeks ago liam told me he was going to celtic. In his own head i think he probobly thought he was |
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Post by mikeyb99 on Jul 13, 2010 8:47:24 GMT
I doubt we'd really be that interested (like Ledley) in O'Neil, if we were expected to hand over (a lot of) cold hard cash for him. It seems to me, that he'd be another one (again like Ledley) where if we can shift some of our dead wood and bring in another decent, solid squad player without breaking the bank then we will try to do so. This. I remember the last time we were linked with him it was apparently in the form of a £5m+ bid which was absolutely ridiculous. If we've been taught anything about signing players from the Championship it's not to pay over the odds for them, and £5m is more than double what a 27-year-old Prem cast-off is worth. Good squad competition with Whitehead for the more offensive central midfield role but not a transfer to break the bank for. |
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Post by ragbone82 on Jul 13, 2010 9:22:32 GMT
He is Gary but he's still not a step up on any of our first team midfielders really. If he and 3/4 quality midfielders came he'd be a good squad signing. For the first team we need better imo. this would be a very good deal for us, how you can say he aint better than our midfield is a joke, we have by far the worst midfield in the prem, none of them can even pass the ball they just work hard |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 13, 2010 10:41:54 GMT
I agree whole heartedly with ragbone82. It really does make you wonder just what people have been watching if they don't thing O'Neil would improve our midfield. I agree with Paul S. that I wouldn't be paying out stupid sums for him but he is a definite improvement as far as I am concerned. I also disagree with the "Premier League Cast Off" too. He and Tuncay were Middlesbroughs best players in the Premier League and he was a good Premier League player at Portsmouth too.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Jul 13, 2010 11:42:30 GMT
Would be a good signing IMO!.... ... but Brough?... I think most spell it Boro first time ive done this quote thing  (sorry for my spelling) ;D |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 13, 2010 11:42:41 GMT
I'd pretty much welcome O'Neil, hopefully we would get more out of Tuncay bringing a player in that he knows well .
I'd love to know what exaclty has happened with Liam though always looks up to it when he plays for Ireland but I doubt we will ever get to find out .
I'm sure he would do well in what looks like being a good season for the smog monsters but sureley we can afford O'Neil anyway , its lot like we have gone mad this summer
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 13, 2010 11:55:41 GMT
I'm sorry who was playing Premier League football last season and who was playing in a mediocre Championship team? Oh yeah it was O'Neil!
I'd rather have Delap and Whitehead in midfield definitely over him. Delap is a fantastic central midfielder and very underated on here which annoys me.
And as I've always said since we were linked with O'Neil whenever we first were, he is typical Pulis winger. He wouldn't get a sniff in central midfield unless we were short in numbers.
I just think we can do better.
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Jul 13, 2010 12:00:36 GMT
I'd be thoroughly underwhelmed if this was the case. Are there only average Championship midfielders available at the moment or something, with us being linked to O'Neil and Ledley?
We can do better and must do better.
He's not as good as any of our first choice midfield in my opinion. He's not even as good as half of the back-up players either.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 13, 2010 12:02:36 GMT
Rather keep Lawrence to be honest
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Jul 13, 2010 12:07:39 GMT
I'd wager O'neil would be for the right hand side, and to be honest I'd rather someone with more pace if we can find one.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jul 13, 2010 12:19:19 GMT
I spoke to Liam in the Cross Keys in Knutsford on Saturday night, couldn't believe my eyes when I walked in and saw him, never seen him round here before, anyway. I asked about Celtic and said he doesn't know, not heard anything from them yet, so for the moment it looks like he's staying.
I would imagine now that Celtic have got Ledley they won't be in for Lawrence aswell but you never know. I hope Liam stays, I don't buy into all this about him sticking with Beattie and causing problems. He is fully committed to Stoke, but i'm sure he'd admit he was nowhere near his best last season. He needs a full pre-season and a run of games and he'll be back to the player we know and love.
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