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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Jul 12, 2010 20:00:43 GMT
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/10557996.stmHospitals are to be moved out of the NHS to create a "vibrant" industry of social enterprises under the proposals. He also said he would be relaxing the rules which cap the amount of income a trust can make outside the NHS, opening the door to them seeing more private patients. Our glorious first gay couple are laying the foundations to sell off the NHS  Give it 2 or 3 years and you'll see the same situation with GPs as you have with dentists now, where its almost impossible to get registered without paying through the nose. Yet again, cheers dave....... ....you cunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by ravenonthewing on Jul 12, 2010 20:31:28 GMT
Lets hope for a better service than we get now
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Post by tigger68 on Jul 12, 2010 20:40:06 GMT
thats what you get when 2 blokes muscle their way into power.....although brown and labour had lost the plot,its not what the majority of people wanted...
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Post by redstriper on Jul 12, 2010 20:45:42 GMT
not want the majority wanted ?... on what basis can you say that ?
if you add up the proportion who voted lib and con you do get a majority, whereas labour got less than a third of the votes at the previous election.
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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 12, 2010 20:47:27 GMT
'Vibrant' in terms of going back to a pre-1948 health service  We'll be back to the equivalent of panel doctors, if you want to see the health gap between rich and poor get twice as wide as it already is, watch this space. Bastards. |
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Post by french toast on Jul 12, 2010 20:50:56 GMT
your all just speculating about rubbish
there is no way the liberals will allow it
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Post by french toast on Jul 12, 2010 20:51:17 GMT
not that i think the tories will be doing that either  |
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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 12, 2010 20:51:29 GMT
your all just speculating about rubbish there is no way the liberals will allow it You're being serious?? |
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Post by Nick1984 on Jul 12, 2010 20:52:20 GMT
So America's turning into Britain and no Britiain's turning into America :?
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Post by french toast on Jul 12, 2010 20:53:43 GMT
your all just speculating about rubbish there is no way the liberals will allow it You're being serious?? yup, if you think that the nhs will end up privatised you're very deluded |
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Post by tigger68 on Jul 12, 2010 20:54:01 GMT
not want the majority wanted ?... on what basis can you say that ? if you add up the proportion who voted lib and con you do get a majority, whereas labour got less than a third of the votes at the previous election. if labour and lib dems had got their heads together they would be in...but the conservatives and lib dems got their heads together...whose choice was that???not the people that voted...if you voted lib dems you wanted them in...if you voted conservative you wanted them in....simples.... |
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Post by ravenonthewing on Jul 12, 2010 20:56:07 GMT
yup, if you think that the nhs will end up privatised you're very deluded Exactly Let'em squeal though They'll be shouting racists next ;D |
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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 12, 2010 20:57:22 GMT
yup, if you think that the nhs will end up privatised you're very deluded Not 100% privatised, nearer a US model of one system for the rich/insurable and another for the rest. How we used to be before the NHS in other words. I'm shaking hands on a bet with you that in 3 years time the NHS will be way more privatised than it ever has been in my lifetime. See which of us is right? |
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Post by french toast on Jul 12, 2010 20:58:16 GMT
this reminds me of all the shit that was spouted about when the glaziers bought manure. everyone saying they would go straight down the shit pan, etc. yup thats exactly what business men do, buy a company and try and make it go bump |
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Post by french toast on Jul 12, 2010 21:00:51 GMT
yup, if you think that the nhs will end up privatised you're very deluded Not 100% privatised, nearer a US model of one system for the rich/insurable and another for the rest. How we used to be before the NHS in other words. I'm shaking hands on a bet with you that in 3 years time the NHS will be way more privatised than it ever has been in my lifetime. See which of us is right? sal im not being funny, but its obvios that its going to be more privatised, as the article says to be fair i dont care because by that time ill be working, and me and my daughter will get free bupa care from the JIB  (i do care, but its all worrying about nothing) |
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Post by ravenonthewing on Jul 12, 2010 21:03:02 GMT
yup, if you think that the nhs will end up privatised you're very deluded Not 100% privatised, nearer a US model of one system for the rich/insurable and another for the rest. How we used to be before the NHS in other words. I'm shaking hands on a bet with you that in 3 years time the NHS will be way more privatised than it ever has been in my lifetime. See which of us is right? I'll have a bet if it does it'll be far better |
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Post by mayf on Jul 12, 2010 21:06:33 GMT
this is a quote from the shadow health minister
"It is a huge gamble with a NHS that is working well for patients."
he clearly has never been treated at a nhs hospital !
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Jul 12, 2010 22:10:16 GMT
yup, if you think that the nhs will end up privatised you're very deluded Why do you think they are lifting the cap on the amount of money a trust can take from 'other sources'? If patient A comes in with private health insurance and unlimited funding and patient B comes in as a NHS case, who is the GP/ Consultant going to take? Hospitals already treat patients from the likes of BUPA by staff who are paid by us, in hospitals paid for by us and using equipment paid for by us yet the amount of them is reasonabley small because they are capped. As soon as you lift that cap, it's enevitable that the non private patients are going to suffer. Couple that with the abolition of the strategic health authorities, there will be a complete lack of orgaisation and rather than patients being sent to the best place for their treatment, they will be sent to wherever is more financially rewarding for the refering GP. It will also mean the loss of advanced training for staff and maybe even the closure of facilities like cancer screening centres. It is a very sly and sneaky way of doing it, but they are doing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 22:30:17 GMT
''If health was a thing that money could buy ,...then the rich would live and the poor would die...''
Those who will suffer are the sick, disabled and the elderly.
....and all those who were apathetic and voted for the coalition..ie Liberals and conservatives.
I have no sympathy...You've made your bed ...now lie in it.!
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Post by french toast on Jul 12, 2010 22:32:12 GMT
don't you get bored of being wrong all the time, mumf??
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Post by Ron Jeremy on Jul 12, 2010 22:35:44 GMT
don't you get bored of being wrong all the time, mumf?? Don't you get bored of being right all the time mate? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 22:38:09 GMT
don't you get bored of being wrong all the time, mumf?? I've read some of your comments....Do you have a history of psychiatric illness...? Private companies are only interested in profits you thick pillock.! Why would anyone want to increase the profits in the private sector at the detriment of the sick and elderly..? It's basic common sense ...unless you happen to be fucking dense...like you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 22:40:17 GMT
your all just speculating about rubbish there is no way the liberals will allow it Example 1....  Daft as a fucking brush. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 22:44:31 GMT
Not 100% privatised, nearer a US model of one system for the rich/insurable and another for the rest. How we used to be before the NHS in other words. I'm shaking hands on a bet with you that in 3 years time the NHS will be way more privatised than it ever has been in my lifetime. See which of us is right? sal im not being funny, but its obvios that its going to be more privatised, as the article says to be fair i dont care because by that time ill be working, and me and my daughter will get free bupa care from the JIB (i do care, but its all worrying about nothing) Example no 2 ... ''I don't care because by that time I'll be working.....and me and my daughter will get free bupa care from the JIB....'' So you're not working then...eh ..? |
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Post by ravenonthewing on Jul 13, 2010 5:57:26 GMT
don't you get bored of being wrong all the time, mumf?? I've read some of your comments....Do you have a history of psychiatric illness...? Private companies are only interested in profits you thick pillock.! Why would anyone want to increase the profits in the private sector at the detriment of the sick and elderly..? It's basic common sense ...unless you happen to be fucking dense...like you. And with that comes many jobs you puddled cunt |
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(i do care, but its all worrying about nothing)
