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Post by mayf on Jun 27, 2010 16:00:33 GMT
he thinks we played well !!!! god help us.
he picked the wrong players,he played them in the wrong formation with the wrong tactics,made the wrong substitutions....the list goes on.
It might help in the future if we pick a manager who can understand the English language without an interpreter.
Bye bye Fabio,for all the hype you're no better than that Wally with the Brolly
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Post by scfcmacca on Jun 27, 2010 16:02:58 GMT
gerrard on the left one decent game there and that was against fucking slovinia when we need a goal or two or three he decides take fucking defoe off and bring on that donkey who is linked with us if pulis signs heskey i will fucking comit suicide
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 16:04:25 GMT
The players are equally to blame. Time for a lot of people in that set up to go, starting with Capello and extending to, at least, Terry, Lampard and Gerrard.
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Post by mayf on Jun 27, 2010 16:08:20 GMT
The players were piss poor there's no denying it.
Certain players let the country down big time....for whatever the reason.....certain players should never have got near an England team,I'm thinking Heskey,Green,Upson,SWP.....there's more......and Rooney should have been dropped 2 games ago !
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Post by dave1863 on Jun 27, 2010 16:16:31 GMT
The manager was awful and far to stubborn to ever change his game but let's not forget the last 3 managers have done nothing with this bunch of over ego'd tossers.
All it shows is that most of the English superstars are carried by far better foreigners at club level.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 16:18:28 GMT
His record says different.
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Post by fca47 on Jun 27, 2010 16:21:28 GMT
Come back Sven all is forgiven. At least we weren't embarrassed.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 27, 2010 16:22:39 GMT
The Heskey sub was the most bizarre thing I've ever seen
And his tactical rigidity and ridiculous attachment to a neanderthal system should see him walk the plank.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jun 27, 2010 16:24:51 GMT
His record says different. Yes, in the qualifiers! Not in this WC!!! Only 6 or 7 million pounds a year! It is said in The City nothing succeeds like failure! If this true the FA will treble Fabio´s pay for the Euro´s! Perhaps, for treble his salary, he might send a team to the Euro´s where half his squad aren´t unfit! |
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Post by starkiller on Jun 27, 2010 16:25:02 GMT
We'll get another manager and it will be exactly the same until we get some new players. And they aren't forthcoming. It's all well listening to the BBC telling is how good these players are (bias towards the product) but they are not. The only good players in England are not English.
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Post by zigazaga on Jun 27, 2010 16:25:46 GMT
He also kept saying it was 2-2. well atleast i think he said that..I really do struggle to undersand him.
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Post by mayf on Jun 27, 2010 16:26:09 GMT
His record says different. Don't you think his record is now tarnished somewhat ? A successful club manager does not necessarily make a good national manger,look at Steve Mclaren as an example. His performance at the world cup has been nothing short of shocking.....as has most of the players too !!! |
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Post by serpico on Jun 27, 2010 16:27:18 GMT
You'd certainly expect more tactical savvy for 6 mill a year  He should have gone 451 after the US game, and certainly after the Algeria game. I just don't think Capello knows enough about the players he has, even though he's had the best part of 2 years to get to know them. why the feck didn't he bring Crouch on ? and instead threw heskey on for Defoe, which effectively ended any remote chance we had. Of course the players are mostly to blame, but Capello has to also take the blame. A defeat would have been ok, but we've been absolutely humiliated and put on a display so inept it was quite extraordinary. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jun 27, 2010 16:32:59 GMT
He's been found out big time - got lucky with some easy qualifying matches. Despite a crazy contract, obviously no clause about having to learn the lingo - and as mentioned above, if that dollaper Hesky signs for us I'm flogging my season ticket.......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 16:35:53 GMT
The manager was awful and far to stubborn to ever change his game but let's not forget the last 3 managers have done nothing with this bunch of over ego'd tossers. All it shows is that most of the English superstars are carried by far better foreigners at club level. agree, we're not bringing through enough young players of our own however, the team has looked totally unbalanced at this tournament, and was a shapeless mess today. because of this group of players successive managers have sought to play as many of these individuals as possible regardless of the system, instead of having an idea of how to play and just picking personnel to fit in to it time to get rid of lampard, terry, heskey, king, upson, barry and start again in the coming years we'll have a dearth of talent, however germany had that for some time before 2006 and still did well. what we need to do is ahave a tight system that makes us tough to beat and forget about individuals |
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Post by mayf on Jun 27, 2010 16:46:52 GMT
The trouble is the FA think the answer is to bring in a foreign coach with a reputation,pay him a fortune and that's as far as they are responsible.
Errr no !
Football in this country is rotten to the core.Those at the top are clueless,an absolute fortune comes into the English game but how much is spent at the lowest level where it's needed ? A pittance that's what,it all goes out of the game on wages to people like Capello
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Post by wigginbird on Jun 27, 2010 20:21:07 GMT
the point I knew Fabio had really lost his mojo today was when he was balling at Gerrard and Joe Cole for not playing on the side HE had told them to.
Gerrard the rightsided player who is better on the right, had swapped sides with Joe Cole who is pretty good on the left, and Fabio went nuclear that they weren't following his instructions.... that because they were wrong fabio, the players knew it, the germans knew it, the fans knew it, even that blind fucking linesman knew it
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 27, 2010 20:33:58 GMT
We're not giving enough credit to the Germans. There were a couple of individual bad performances and the defence was poor, but we created a few chances and scored two good goals.
Today's performance was on a par with the Slovenia game but Germany were devastating on the counter.
Our defence looked awful but their attack exposed us. Sometimes you just have to admit that our players just aren't that good. Not much you can do about that - I honestly don't think we had it in us to play much better than we did today.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 20:35:52 GMT
We're not giving enough credit to the Germans. There were a couple of individual bad performances and the defence was poor, but we created a few chances and scored two good goals. Today's performance was on a par with the Slovenia game but Germany were devastating on the counter. Our defence looked awful but their attack exposed us. Sometimes you just have to admit that our players just aren't that good. Not much you can do about that - I honestly don't think we had it in us to play much better than we did today. I think the two Croatia games show we're capable of much better performances. There's no way on paper that that was a team to get a 4-1 pussywhipping. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 27, 2010 20:42:06 GMT
We're not giving enough credit to the Germans. There were a couple of individual bad performances and the defence was poor, but we created a few chances and scored two good goals. Today's performance was on a par with the Slovenia game but Germany were devastating on the counter. Our defence looked awful but their attack exposed us. Sometimes you just have to admit that our players just aren't that good. Not much you can do about that - I honestly don't think we had it in us to play much better than we did today. I think the two Croatia games show we're capable of much better performances. There's no way on paper that that was a team to get a 4-1 pussywhipping. We're capable of better, that's fair comment. But there's a massive amount of overreaction over the performance. We didn't play that badly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 20:50:17 GMT
I think the two Croatia games show we're capable of much better performances. There's no way on paper that that was a team to get a 4-1 pussywhipping. We're capable of better, that's fair comment. But there's a massive amount of overreaction over the performance. We didn't play that badly. We created virtually nothing, gave the ball away repeatedly and defended abysmally. Other than that we were fine. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 27, 2010 20:55:42 GMT
We're capable of better, that's fair comment. But there's a massive amount of overreaction over the performance. We didn't play that badly. , gave the ball away repeatedly and defended abysmally. Other than that we were fine. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. It's just not true. We scored two good goals (a reasonable enough achievement on its own) and thumped the bar twice on top of that. Added to which we had a few moves where we were a good pass or a snapshot away from a goal. And then there was Gerrard's effort at the end, only beaten by a fantastic save. Fair enough to criticise, some of it is justified. The defence was poor for sure, but the Germans played a world-class counter-attacking game. To say we created nothing is nonsense. Compared to the Algeria game we played like 70s Brazil today. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 21:01:14 GMT
We created virtually nothing, gave the ball away repeatedly and defended abysmally. Other than that we were fine. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. It's just not true. We scored two good goals (a reasonable enough achievement on its own) and thumped the bar twice on top of that. Added to which we had a few moves where we were a good pass or a snapshot away from a goal. And then there was Gerrard's effort at the end, only beaten by a fantastic save. Fair enough to criticise, some of it is justified. The defence was poor for sure, but the Germans played a world-class counter-attacking game. To say we created nothing is nonsense. Compared to the Algeria game we played like 70s Brazil today. I think you're being incredibly generous to describe those as chances. They were hardly clear cut. Defoe had already been flagged offside before he hit the bar, so it wouldn't have counted. We were already well beaten when Gerrard had his chance. Being "a snapshot or good pass" away is not the same as actually creating a chance. |
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on Jun 27, 2010 21:07:38 GMT
gerrard on the left one decent game there and that was against fucking slovinia when we need a goal or two or three he decides take fucking defoe off and bring on that donkey who is linked with us if pulis signs heskey i will fucking comit suicide Can I have yer season ticket mate. |
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on Jun 27, 2010 21:16:22 GMT
I think the two Croatia games show we're capable of much better performances. There's no way on paper that that was a team to get a 4-1 pussywhipping. We're capable of better, that's fair comment. But there's a massive amount of overreaction over the performance. We didn't play that badly. Didn't play badly, everytime they attacked it looked like they would score. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 21:19:42 GMT
Don't blame Capello. It was Kitson's fault. Bastard!
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Post by nott1 on Jun 27, 2010 22:13:51 GMT
NEVER AGAIN SHOULD THIS RABBLE OF USELESS PRATS PULL ON AN ENGLAND SHIRT!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jun 27, 2010 22:15:52 GMT
players need to accept their share of responsibility, Sven was wank ,Mcclaren was wank and now Capello , players are over rated and too full of themselves for me
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Post by tonyrv on Jun 27, 2010 22:22:08 GMT
Over the whole tournament, yes we were shite, but i think if our equaliser that wasn`t, was allowed i think it would of been a different result, we wouldn`t of committed so many players forward when they counter attacked us for there 3rd, from then on it was all over, before they scored their 3rd goal they looked extremely nervous, but as soon as they got that third goal it was all over.
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Post by tonyrv on Jun 27, 2010 22:34:32 GMT
There is technology in every other sport apart from football, WHY? how long did it take to show the replay of the goal? 10 seconds? i now think something will be done about this, and about time to, there is so much at stake now, not just the world cup, but there is so much money involved in the game now, one wrong decision could condem a team to relegation, or even a promotion.
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