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Post by dozintheseventees on May 20, 2010 22:22:25 GMT
Fair do's mate!
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Post by kaney78 on May 20, 2010 22:28:30 GMT
Potential against experience? -no chance,fuller is a legend.and underrated in my opinion too.more often than not does a lot of work up front on his own and relied on a bit to make somethin happen out of nothin i think.not many players i would swap fuller with,on his day excitin and skillfull player to watch.cole playin alongside fuller, yes but not instead of
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on May 21, 2010 7:25:56 GMT
The last 30 years bit. Impossible to actually compair on a level field because they played in different divisions and in completely different tactical set-ups whch actually render one-to-one comparrisons quite meaningless. All we can do is take each on his merits within the situation that he operated and you'd have to talk of Ric, Steino, Sheron and Thorne bearing in mind their totally different situations. Steino had no physical advantages since he was tiny (size 3 boots) and yet was a player who got me out of my seat whenever the ball went anywhere near him. Quick in both movement and thought, a lethal finisher and capable with both feet. When you look at the 'monsters' he came up against week-in, week-out, he was absolutely brilliant. His partnership with Bertie was one of my great footballing highlights at Stoke (and I go back to the 60s). Sherron was (for me) quite similar to Ric in that he, more often than not, had to create his own chances. I unashamedly loved Mike Sheron (In a manly way) but he probably comes a poor 4th of the four I highlighted in most peoples book. Thorne was quite simply an excellent striker in every sense of the word. He could do everything that you would expect of a striker in terms of hold up/link play but scored 20 odd goals season after season. Same comments I made about Ric (but for injuries - a real top striker). Ric clearly wins in terms of playing in the Premier League although, in terms of goals to games in the premier League I'm not at all sure he beats Steino who is, by an absolute mile, my favourite. Ric has natural advantages that Steino just didn't and he is without doubt the most exciting, electrifying and talented striker I've seen at Stoke in recent decades. Like I said, direct comparrisons are fairly useless and it is all pure personal opinion in the final analysis. But there you have mine. I too loved Steino and Sheron. Thorney I always thought was slightly overrated. None of them for me though, could do what Ric could do, at any level, in terms of dazzling ability when it comes to running at and terrorising defenders. I agree with you about Fuller's dazzling ability on the ball, but I wouldn't say by quite a way he as not got the finishing ability Stein had got, it does not matter what division you play in you can tell if a striker as got it or not. He also proved he had it anyway at Chelsea.
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Post by kaney78 on May 21, 2010 7:34:02 GMT
Are you sayin steino proved it at chelsea?i may be wrong but he never got a game did he?although i do agree he was a superb finisher.his strike against man u in the league cup will live in my memory for a long time.one of the best goals iv ever seen and one of the best mentals iv ever had as well on the old boothen end.
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Post by bunnyscfc on May 21, 2010 7:35:51 GMT
Steino also had a half-decent strike partner in Bertie.
Look who has 'shouldered' the burden with Ric for the majority of his time here.
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Post by kaney78 on May 21, 2010 7:42:18 GMT
Steino also had a half-decent strike partner in Bertie. Look who has 'shouldered' the burden with Ric for the majority of his time here. -thats true.really wish pulis would play him and tunguy together.thought they looked promisin against wigan at the brit this season
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on May 21, 2010 8:07:26 GMT
Steino also had a half-decent strike partner in Bertie. Look who has 'shouldered' the burden with Ric for the majority of his time here. Some of the people seem to think Sidibe is the best thing since sliced bread. Maybe it's time he went to pasture's new, were a bit short of donkey's for our beaches.
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Post by french toast on May 21, 2010 8:13:43 GMT
Are you sayin steino proved it at chelsea?i may be wrong but he never got a game did he?although i do agree he was a superb finisher.his strike against man you in the league cup will live in my memory for a long time.one of the best goals iv ever seen and one of the best mentals iv ever had as well on the old boothen end. youre wrong, steino scored 7 goals in 7 games for chelsea and held the record for scoring in the most consecutive games at one point. it was manure that injured him, and he was never the same after that
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Post by french toast on May 21, 2010 8:18:05 GMT
a quick look on wikipedia suggests he nearly had a 1 in 2 goals ratio for chelsea too
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on May 21, 2010 14:27:25 GMT
That is possibly the biggest load of b0llocks I have ever read!! He isn't just a striker who taps the ball in from 5 yards, have you seen who many chances he creates, how many times we get possession from him harassing defs, or how many corners, throws etc we get from him making defs panic?? Yes he doesn't score as many as he could, but does he miss that many? No, it's more about the negative, defensive way we set out, and playing alongside Sidibe half the time doesn't bl00dy help, and that's not a dig at Mama. Gees, I don't know how old you are, but you obviously don't watch much footie. If we could sign someone like Carlton Cole, and play with 2 wingers and a centre mid that could actually thread balls through rather than just tackle, Fuller would score a lot more goals, pure and simple. Fuller got 3 league goals - same as Kitson and Beattie. Etherington got 5 league goals. Tuncay got 4. Even Huth got 3. In total, our strikers got 15 league goals between them. Only Sidibe got less than Fuller. Our midfield got 10, defense got 8. By keeping clean sheets, scoring the odd goal and making chances for others, Shawcross, Huth, Etherington and even Wilko contribute more to the game than Fuller. I'd put Fuller on a par with Whitehead. Sometimes he's great and really shines, other times he might as well be sitting on the bench. He wants a contract extension. They should say, 'Get 10 league goals next season and we'll give you an extra year'. Then we might see how good he can really be. y2j, It's all if's mate, if we had Carlton Cole, if we had two wingers, if we a central mid. who can thread balls through. How sure can you be. Cannot see him ever scoring more goals than he did that first year in the Prem. Just like saying if me auntie had bollocks she would be me uncle.
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