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Post by knowles on May 6, 2010 8:38:57 GMT
Firstly, I am still buzzing from the victory last night. Having thrown those three points away against Bolton, I didn't think we would beat last season's tally, but the lads have proved me wrong (not for the first time). Anyway, we aren't the second team to do it, we are the third. Birmingham City managed 48 points in 2002-03, and followed that up with 50 points the season after. As has been reported, Blackburn also managed it in 2003 (60 points, following on from 46 points in the previous season). Well done Stoke  |
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Post by Irish Stokie on May 6, 2010 8:43:12 GMT
It was on here that there were a number of teams to do it, think Bolton were on the list too but not sure
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Post by dexter97 on May 6, 2010 8:46:44 GMT
The way TP has repeatedly been banging on about this for the last couple of months, somebody's convinced him it's fact. I wonder if the stat he's referring to is a combination of points AND position.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 6, 2010 8:47:00 GMT
Firstly, I am still buzzing from the victory last night. Having thrown those three points away against Bolton, I didn't think we would beat last season's tally, but the lads have proved me wrong (not for the first time). Anyway, we aren't the second team to do it, we are the third. Birmingham City managed 48 points in 2002-03, and followed that up with 50 points the season after. As has been reported, Blackburn also managed it in 2003 (60 points, following on from 46 points in the previous season). Well done Stoke Looks like we could be the NINTH, Knowlesy. I wonder what other outrageous facts the media would accept, unchecked, if Tone told 'em. I reckon he should test it out next season. Maybe he should claim he invented penicillin or was the first Welshman on the moon? Mind you, for some reason, he's obviously utterly convinced himself about this and has made it THE point to his season for the last 6-7 weeks. So it's probably better he never finds out he's wrong. |
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Post by knowles on May 6, 2010 8:48:41 GMT
Cheers Grapey. Pulis out  Seriously though, having harped on about it for 4 months or so, you would have thought some kind soul would have had a quite little word in his ear?! |
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on May 6, 2010 9:13:43 GMT
I think the fact that Pulis is on about, is teams who beat their point total in their 1st season in the premier league, in the 2nd season.
If it's not, then owd' Tone is just telling porkies.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2010 14:46:24 GMT
I wonder what other outrageous facts the media would accept, unchecked, if Tone told 'em. I reckon he should test it out next season. Maybe he should claim he invented penicillin or was the first Welshman on the moon? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Reporter “That’s a great 3 points again today Tony. What did you make of Fuller’s sublime finish at the end? It was a bit special wasn’t it?” Tone “Nahhhhhh, it was a triffic finish by Fuller, Nige. But he’s capable of that, isn’t he. He’s a top, top player. That makes him the all time top scorer in the premier league now, just ahead of Hamilton Ricard. I can’t ask for more than that” Reporter “And what about the display at the back by Shawcross? Nothing got past him today.” Tone “Nahhhhh, Ryan’s had another super game today, Nige. He’s now made 873 interceptions in the premier league which puts him at third in the list behind Claus Lundekvam and Ken Monkou. That’s a smashing achievement for a player his age….” Reporter “Errrrrrrm……are you sure about that Tony?” Tone “Not a fucking clue, Nige” |
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Post by soicowboy2 on May 6, 2010 18:03:26 GMT
Who cares ?????................we've done it and it's a great achievement. Never thought we'd manage it to be fair. Totally safe from a relegation battle all season. Great achievement and Pulis has every right to harp on about it as you put it
I was under the impression he meant new teams to the Prem by the way
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2010 18:05:50 GMT
So about 8 was right!  |
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Post by One-Two on May 6, 2010 18:10:08 GMT
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Post by soicowboy2 on May 6, 2010 18:10:30 GMT
So about 8 was right! For first timers in the Prem no it isn't :-) It's about wrong Get over it |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2010 18:10:54 GMT
He's wrong! ;D
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2010 18:15:13 GMT
And if we're going on that isn't 7 omitting Blackburn?
Blackburn - promoted 1992, first season 71pts, second season 84pts (won it the following year with 89pts!)
Derby - promoted 1996, first season 46pts, second season 55pts
Leicester - promoted 1996, first season 47pts, second season 53pts
Middlesboro - promoted 1998, first season 51pts, second season 52pts
Fulham - promoted 2001, first season 44pts, second season 48pts
Blackburn - promoted 2001, first season 46pts, second season 60pts
Bolton - promoted 2001, first season 40pts, second season 44pts
Birmingham - promoted 2002, first season 48pts, second season 50pts
That is exactly what we have done.
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Post by alster on May 6, 2010 18:29:33 GMT
And if we're going on that isn't 7 omitting Blackburn? Blackburn - promoted 1992, first season 71pts, second season 84pts (won it the following year with 89pts!) Derby - promoted 1996, first season 46pts, second season 55pts Leicester - promoted 1996, first season 47pts, second season 53pts Middlesboro - promoted 1998, first season 51pts, second season 52pts Fulham - promoted 2001, first season 44pts, second season 48pts Blackburn - promoted 2001, first season 46pts, second season 60pts Bolton - promoted 2001, first season 40pts, second season 44pts Birmingham - promoted 2002, first season 48pts, second season 50pts That is exactly what we have done. It would be far too much trouble for me to look back and check if each of those promotions was their first time in the premier league but Blackburn being on there twice could be a clue, a club can only have its first season in the Premier League once. So had all those other teams been promoted then relegated in their FIRST premier league season then promoted again and then made their improvement then Pulis would actually be technically correct. |
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Post by trebor63 on May 6, 2010 18:51:20 GMT
And if we're going on that isn't 7 omitting Blackburn? Blackburn - promoted 1992, first season 71pts, second season 84pts (won it the following year with 89pts!) Derby - promoted 1996, first season 46pts, second season 55pts Leicester - promoted 1996, first season 47pts, second season 53pts Middlesboro - promoted 1998, first season 51pts, second season 52pts Fulham - promoted 2001, first season 44pts, second season 48pts Blackburn - promoted 2001, first season 46pts, second season 60pts Bolton - promoted 2001, first season 40pts, second season 44pts Birmingham - promoted 2002, first season 48pts, second season 50pts That is exactly what we have done. It would be far too much trouble for me to look back and check if each of those promotions was their first time in the premier league but Blackburn being on there twice could be a clue, a club can only have its first season in the Premier League once. So had all those other teams been promoted then relegated in their FIRST premier league season then promoted again and then made their improvement then Pulis would actually be technically correct. As you say its impossible for Blackburn to be on the list twice! They can only join the prem for the first time once! If WBA get 45 points next year and 46 the year after they won't count either cos they've been here before. Its clear he means virgins to the prem and I assume he's right on that basis. |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 6, 2010 18:56:37 GMT
Blackburn (92), Derby (96), Leicester (96), Fulham (01), Bolton (01) and Brum (02) were all Prem virgins though, weren't they?
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Post by trebor63 on May 6, 2010 19:05:18 GMT
Blackburn (92), Derby (96), Leicester (96), Fulham (01), Bolton (01) and Brum (02) were all Prem virgins though, weren't they? Haven't got a clue! I would have thought Fulham were but the others all bob up and down quite regularly. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2010 19:08:56 GMT
Blackburn, Fulham and Derby definitely were. edit-and Brum. Can't be arsed to check the others, I'm off to put a cross by the name of a crook.  |
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Post by PotterLog on May 6, 2010 19:14:13 GMT
Blackburn (92), Derby (96), Leicester (96), Fulham (01), Bolton (01) and Brum (02) were all Prem virgins though, weren't they? Yes they were. It was just another idea plucked out of thin air that nobody bothered to check up on. ;D Is there some other stat that Tone could be getting mixed up with? Are we the second team to finish higher in the table in their 2nd season? |
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Post by alster on May 6, 2010 19:20:52 GMT
Anyway whether he's right or wrong its definitely a sensible management tool to keep setting realisic targets so 40pts then 46pts was sensible rather than saying we want to qualify for Europe, champs league or win the title which will soon seem unattainable and therefore cease to motivate. I'm not his biggest fan but he does do a lot of things right.
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Post by PotterLog on May 6, 2010 19:49:13 GMT
Anyway whether he's right or wrong its definitely a sensible management tool to keep setting realisic targets so 40pts then 46pts was sensible rather than saying we want to qualify for Europe, champs league or win the title which will soon seem unattainable and therefore cease to motivate. I'm not his biggest fan but he does do a lot of things right. Spot on. Our first target next year should be survival. Our second target should be 50 points. |
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Post by trebor63 on May 6, 2010 19:57:58 GMT
Apparently no team in the history of world football has had three consecutive seasons of continual improvement sfter first entering their countrys respective top league. Next year if we get a top ten finish with 49 points (assuming we only draw at ManUre) we will be trail blazers |
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