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Post by potters11 on Apr 26, 2010 17:47:18 GMT
Why do people always feel the need to tell others, how long they have supported their team for? People seem to tell other people they have just bumped into that they've followed Stoke for 345 seasons, WHY??!
Is it that they think people will respect their opinions more because they've watched the team for 'x' number of seasons!? Personally, it strikes of the actions of a person with self conscious issues.
I don't care whether it's your 1st or 4000th match, and proclaiming it to the world makes you look more the fool! What do you want a special badge because you are older and had far more opportunity to follow the team so far?!
Fans also do this on the radio, even before they have started to make a comment they will start off with "John, John, now I've been a fan for 46 years." SO!??!?! What relevance does that have to who can play the Mama role best? Or who is the best goalkeeper at the club?
It's just one of those things that really annoy me, and it seems to me that those fans that have supported the team for 632 seasons seem to think they are somehow more knowledgeable and that the person who's followed the team for 2 seasons doesn't deserve to be there.
Clowns the lot of them.
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Post by stokie25 on Apr 26, 2010 17:50:08 GMT
He does have a point though ;D ;D
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 26, 2010 17:50:34 GMT
Premiership jeyboy alert
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Post by PulisCameraAction on Apr 26, 2010 17:51:20 GMT
Why do people always feel the need to tell others, how long they have supported their team for? People seem to tell other people they have just bumped into that they've followed Stoke for 345 seasons, WHY??! Is it that they think people will respect their opinions more because they've watched the team for 'x' number of seasons!? Personally, it strikes of the actions of a person with self conscious issues. I don't care whether it's your 1st or 4000th match, and proclaiming it to the world makes you look more the fool! What do you want a special badge because you are older and had far more opportunity to follow the team so far?! Fans also do this on the radio, even before they have started to make a comment they will start off with "John, John, now I've been a fan for 46 years." SO!??!?! What relevance does that have to who can play the Mama role best? Or who is the best goalkeeper at the club? It's just one of those things that really annoy me, and it seems to me that those fans that have supported the team for 632 seasons seem to think they are somehow more knowledgeable and that the person who's followed the team for 2 seasons doesn't deserve to be there. Clowns the lot of them. Spot on Rob. |
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Post by ti on Apr 26, 2010 17:53:23 GMT
fair comment.
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Post by jamlander on Apr 26, 2010 17:56:55 GMT
So Potters11 are you new to the City? Personally I think that if you haven't got a PlatPlus card you're not really serious about Stoke  |
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Post by Stoke-on-Toronto on Apr 26, 2010 17:59:52 GMT
It's always nice to have new fans as a breath of fresh air and some new ideas.
I really enjoy talking to new fans of teams I support... they help me take a step back and look at things I never noticed before.
Cheers to them!
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Post by scfc2010 on Apr 26, 2010 18:00:25 GMT
im joe and ive been going stoke 4 7 years
actually yh does swnd weird
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Post by dbstoke on Apr 26, 2010 18:04:09 GMT
Try writing it in english, it may not sound so weird.
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Post by winsfordpotter on Apr 26, 2010 18:05:00 GMT
462 seasons is that all. You cant have an opinion unless you have seen Stoke play against the cavemen. The best ref in them days was called Mr T Rex.
Think this is about my 3787th season now. Looking forward to getting my gold clock when I get to 4000 seasons.
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Post by bvern on Apr 26, 2010 18:07:03 GMT
and while we're at it we can remove the founding date from the badge - simply irrelevant that we are the second oldest club in the league, bit of an embarrassment really
and yeah what's the point of having Stoke in the name - it's not like it adds anything to the team selection does it
why don't we become Franchise fc with no reference or relevance in history where supporters are free to come and go depending on what league the club are in and how well it is doing
what does it matter that some poor half mad fools traipsed around the Grimsbys and the Lincolns of the world like lost souls for 30 years, making sure the name of Stoke City survived while other famous clubs went to the wall and that those supporters (look that one up) are proud of that fact
don't suppose it matters a jot to someone who has been going for two seasons - and probably won't go again if we are relegated
i'll tell you what though sunshine to an afwul lot of us our loyalty and dedication matters a hell of a fucking lot!
Be Loyal Be Proud Be Stoke
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Post by grayscfc on Apr 26, 2010 18:09:28 GMT
ive supported stoke for 469 seasons.....beat that.
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Post by Squeekster on Apr 26, 2010 18:10:04 GMT
I think what it boils down 2 is that we have a very new fan base now we are in the prem and a lot of people who make opinions get told about how we are prem team and stop moaning.
I have seen some dark times at Stoke and missed the good times ala Hudson and co so when i told stop complaining about issues i think back to times like watching Tommy Tynon scoring a hatrick at Home park after having spending 6 hours on a coach traveling down there.
There is a lot of very young posters on here now and they only know of good times and somtimes they can't understand what some of us have been through.
That said though anyone can see wrong team selection or wrong tactics can't they?
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Post by dbstoke on Apr 26, 2010 18:15:53 GMT
and while we're at it we can remove the founding date from the badge - simply irrelevant that we are the second oldest club in the league, bit of an embarrassment really and yeah what's the point of having Stoke in the name - it's not like it adds anything to the team selection does it why don't we become Franchise fc with no reference or relevance in history where supporters are free to come and go depending on what league the club are in and how well it is doing what does it matter that some poor half mad fools traipsed around the Grimsbys and the Lincolns of the world like lost souls for 30 years, making sure the name of Stoke City survived while other famous clubs went to the wall and that those supporters (look that one up) are proud of that fact don't suppose it matters a jot to someone who has been going for two seasons - and probably won't go again if we are relegated i'll tell you what though sunshine to an afwul lot of us our loyalty and dedication matters a hell of a fucking lot! Be Loyal Be Proud Be Stoke Absolute nail on head son!  |
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Post by stokie25 on Apr 26, 2010 18:21:04 GMT
I don't think he's saying that loyalty and dedication doesn't count for anything, just that 'time served' doesn't really afford anybody the privilege of having a more pertinent opinion on 'current' stoke city matters than anybody unfortunate enough only to have been going for a few years because they weren't born in 1935 Conversly, I know Stokies who have been supporters for 30 years yet never attended one single match with Pulis at the Helm...prem included  Does that make them right in their assertion of Pulis then, or just stubborn old men? |
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Post by dbstoke on Apr 26, 2010 18:24:43 GMT
I don't think he's saying that loyalty and dedication doesn't count for anything, just that 'time served' doesn't really afford anybody the privilege of having a more pertinent opinion on 'current' stoke city matters than anybody unfortunate enough only to have been going for a few years because they weren't born in 1935 Conversly, I know Stokies who have been supporters for 30 years yet never attended one single match with Pulis at the Helm...prem included Does that make them right in their assertion of Pulis then, or just stubborn old men? Absolute nail on head son! |
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Post by winsfordpotter on Apr 26, 2010 18:26:50 GMT
Conversly, I know Stokies who have been supporters for 30 years yet never attended one single match with Pulis at the Helm...prem included Does that make them right in their assertion of Pulis then, or just stubborn old men? Sorry but if they havent been to a single game because of who is in chatge of the team then they arnt Stoke fans. You go and support your team whoever is in charge, where-ever you are in the league and what ever league you are in. |
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Post by stokie25 on Apr 26, 2010 18:32:27 GMT
Precisely Winsford. Yet they continually bleat about the Waddo years and Sir Stans playing days as though 'we kiddies' are just stoke supporting sheep...i argue this point quite regularly Let's face it...we ARE Stoke supporting sheep...through thick n thin, players and managers....like i continue to argue with them |
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Post by knowles on Apr 26, 2010 18:45:29 GMT
Part-timer |
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Post by ProudPotter17 on Apr 26, 2010 18:47:59 GMT
I've been going ever since we were formed back in 1863, do I win?
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Post by trebor63 on Apr 26, 2010 18:49:53 GMT
Speaking as someone who has been to virtually every home match over the last forty years and every away game since the 79-80 season I think I can say it is important how long each person has gone for.
And because of my loyalty and the fact I've been given a platinum card i think that clinches the arguement ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Carlos Dickabout on Apr 26, 2010 19:24:14 GMT
im joe and ive been going stoke 4 7 years actually yh does swnd weird makes you sound like you're in a self help meeting |
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Post by checkmatestokie on Apr 26, 2010 20:29:28 GMT
I've been supporting Stoke City for 62 years and certainly would never think my views are any more important, or relevant, than those 15,000 or so who - for whatever reason, have joined the bandwagon over the last two or three years.
I don't blame the youngsters who obviously can't join our ranks before they're born, but they can't all be teenagers and will the 'Johnny - come - latelies' still be there supporting our beloved club when we're no longer in the Premier League? - It's bound to happen one day whether in the short term or hopefully, many years down the line.
Call me an old fogey if you it makes you feel better - it won't bother me, but at least I'm loyal, not a glory hunter and God willing I'll still be there when the sad and dreaded day arrives.
T
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Post by Jimmy Cooper on Apr 26, 2010 20:43:36 GMT
Noticed a lot more 'kiddies' on the board recently. They need to learn to listen to their elders and only speak when spoken to! Bloody little ragamuffin hoodlums...
On a serious note, if someone's followed the team for 46 years, without fail, then they deserve a bloody big round of applause in my book.
Not taking into consideration our fall from grace into 3rd division, bad-as-or-worse-than-vale mode, over that number of years, an individual's circumstances change from one extreme to another. Saturday jobs when you're a young 'un meaning you can't make the game, moving to a different part of the country, shift work, going in the forces, university, marriage, kids, mortgage: all things that could mean you drift away from football. So someone who has followed the club for any great number of years has a right to feel a little proud. Not saying their opinions are more important than that of a supporter who has only been going 6/7 seasons, but they've seen a lot more than most fans have.
On a side note, if you've been going for one or two seasons only, you are scum of the earth, and if I see you at the game I will spit on you, you infidel. I don't give a fuck that you're only 6 either ;D
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Post by potters11 on Apr 26, 2010 21:07:41 GMT
I am NOT disputing the fact that people should be proud of their career as a Stoke supporter. In fact quite the opposite, they should be bloody chuffed by it, but I am basically saying don't tell the world and his neighbour about it!
Yes, it's great that people have followed the team all of their lives, and without them we certainly wouldn't be where we are today. The likes of Mabel Smith are worth 100 of any player that has pulled on the red and white.
For the purpose of the thread, I won't disclose how long I've been following Stoke, whether I am a Johnny come lately or not and how many games I attended pre 2008 and post 2008, that would make me as bad as the clowns that boast about their 'record.'
That's the part that angers me, the boasting. Not the pride, association and passion for the wonderful club of ours, the boasting is the pathetic side of the issue.
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Post by scfc2010 on Apr 26, 2010 21:09:21 GMT
ive supported stoke for 469 seasons.....beat that. ok. ive supported stoke for 500 seasons ....... |
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Post by jacka118 on Apr 26, 2010 21:13:43 GMT
and while we're at it we can remove the founding date from the badge - simply irrelevant that we are the second oldest club in the league, bit of an embarrassment really and yeah what's the point of having Stoke in the name - it's not like it adds anything to the team selection does it why don't we become Franchise fc with no reference or relevance in history where supporters are free to come and go depending on what league the club are in and how well it is doing what does it matter that some poor half mad fools traipsed around the Grimsbys and the Lincolns of the world like lost souls for 30 years, making sure the name of Stoke City survived while other famous clubs went to the wall and that those supporters (look that one up) are proud of that fact don't suppose it matters a jot to someone who has been going for two seasons - and probably won't go again if we are relegated i'll tell you what though sunshine to an afwul lot of us our loyalty and dedication matters a hell of a fucking lot! Be Loyal Be Proud Be Stoke Well said that man! |
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 26, 2010 21:37:44 GMT
I agree with potters11. How long you've supported Stoke has no bearing on your ability to analyse the game or offer a good opinion. Well said that lad. I'm not wrong on this. I should know because I've been supporting Stoke for over 60 years. OS. |
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Post by Chunky Lover! on Apr 26, 2010 22:12:18 GMT
Why do people always feel the need to tell others, how long they have supported their team for? People seem to tell other people they have just bumped into that they've followed Stoke for 345 seasons, WHY??! Is it that they think people will respect their opinions more because they've watched the team for 'x' number of seasons!? Personally, it strikes of the actions of a person with self conscious issues. I don't care whether it's your 1st or 4000th match, and proclaiming it to the world makes you look more the fool! What do you want a special badge because you are older and had far more opportunity to follow the team so far?! Fans also do this on the radio, even before they have started to make a comment they will start off with "John, John, now I've been a fan for 46 years." SO!??!?! What relevance does that have to who can play the Mama role best? Or who is the best goalkeeper at the club? It's just one of those things that really annoy me, and it seems to me that those fans that have supported the team for 632 seasons seem to think they are somehow more knowledgeable and that the person who's followed the team for 2 seasons doesn't deserve to be there. Clowns the lot of them. A bloody good point, very well made. If karma was still around you would have got some!! |
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Apr 26, 2010 22:34:09 GMT
I agree with potters11, it does irk me as well. I think he's been a bit misunderstood here by some. It's like when people say 'I've seen Banks and Matthews play with my own eyes etc' and use that as a reason to try and make people believe their stupid arguments.
I'm sure I can make up my mind whether or not Sorensen should have held Lampard's shot, regardless of whether I saw Banks make a similar save and hold it.
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