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Post by funkyphantom on Apr 14, 2010 7:49:22 GMT
Hi guys.
My 7 year old son is driving my wife and I crazy. All he seems to want to do is play football. He is FOOTBALL CRAZY! Does anyone have any advice on getting him into a team? Weather its lads and dads, or a 'proper' team?
Thanks
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Post by murphy on Apr 14, 2010 8:05:58 GMT
Hey up mate. If you google 'Potteries Mini Soccer League' , it will bring up their OurKids Sports web site and there are contact details on there.
If you struggle, then PM me.
Good luck !
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Post by funkyphantom on Apr 14, 2010 8:46:51 GMT
cheers mate. Thanks
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Post by funkyphantom on Apr 14, 2010 8:54:22 GMT
Would anyone have any advice on helping me choose a team? Id rather get him into a well run team if you see what i mean. Or is it a case of 'suck it and see'?
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 14, 2010 8:56:24 GMT
Where do you live FP?
I run the under 8's at Biddulph Town, we move to under 9's in September so it depends on date of birth and stuff (and whether you are anywhere near us!)
Murphy - which team do you run? I'm in the PMSL too.
Lots of good local teams though with teams in lots of age groups.
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Post by funkyphantom on Apr 14, 2010 9:02:02 GMT
Robo, im in Bucknall mate, so Biddulph is a fair way away.
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Apr 14, 2010 9:19:31 GMT
My lad is 8 and is in his second season with Vale Juniors (No, not that that lot!) based in Congleton. They start at under 7's and have a team for each age group from then on.
I live on the Birches Head Massive but Vale Juniors is so well run and the coaching they receive is so good that I'm quite happy to get him over to Congleton each Saturday morning.
He also plays on a Sunday at Lads & Dads (YMCA Potters) who are based at Willfield.
I can make enquiries at both of them for you if you want.
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Post by stokietomo on Apr 14, 2010 9:24:39 GMT
You've got PM funkyphantom
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Post by rockhead163 on Apr 14, 2010 9:30:05 GMT
FP Foley FC are looking at starting an under 8's next season and have had someone enquire about running it. They are based in Meir and I could ask the question for you if you like as to weather it's going ahead or not.
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Post by stokietomo on Apr 14, 2010 9:31:57 GMT
There's a new Under 8's team starting in Weston Coyney for the Potteries Mini League and are actively seeking players now. PM if anyone needs contact details
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 14, 2010 10:01:49 GMT
PS - age is important
If under 8 still on 31st August then he has to play 'non competitive' football next season (ie you have a seasons fixtures but no results are published - non competitive my bottom though!)
In already 8 by then he can play under 9's in the more formal league and cup competitions.
I've got to lose my goalie next season because his birthday is 8th September - all appeals to the FA etc have failed so far (grumble) - they are like gold dust are keepers - he is already at Man Utd. Will be another under 8's team bonus I suppose
We are away at Shamblers on Sunday so will have a lovely pitch to play on!
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Post by funkyphantom on Apr 14, 2010 10:31:14 GMT
Wow, i wasnt expecting as many replies as this.
He'll still be 7 as of 31st august so i guess 'non competitive' it is.
I think id rather a well established club rather than a new one as yet.
Do all coaching staff get 'vetted'? i.e do they have relevant police checks etc etc? I know its a daft question, but is (sadly) a sign of the times we live in.
Thanks
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Post by rockhead163 on Apr 14, 2010 11:31:52 GMT
FP managers and coaches will have to be level one coaches next season in the PMSL as far as I am aware. Foley had there junior section meeting last Wednesday and it was discussed that someone had approched the club about running a team. Foley have a team at all ages up to U16's and a coach for this season's U9's it is good to have the backing of a club setup rather than trying to do it all on your own. The other option is Longton Harriers who play most there games opposite Moorville Hall.
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Post by grayscfc on Apr 14, 2010 12:16:33 GMT
hi if your son wants play football even though hes only 7 he can play up to two year above his age i got son that plays for bradwell give this guy a ring and he will tell you more its keith finnymore he run the bradwell club his number is 07919890257 sure he will help you
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Apr 14, 2010 12:24:06 GMT
If the club and the league are well run and operate within FA guidlines then any concerns you may have will probably have already been addressed.
Certainly the team my lad plays for in Congleton, which is governed by the Cheshire FA, have strict rules and and a number of do's and don'ts that must be complied with and are routinely enforced. (For example there must always be more than one adult in the changing rooms when the kids are in there, we are not allowed to take photo's of the players during a game without the express permission of all other parents of children playing in the game etc. etc.)
My lad's league also have a child protection liaison officer who parents can contact if they have any concerns they wish to discuss.
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Post by paulh75 on Apr 14, 2010 12:27:18 GMT
Guys ive been running a side in Sandbach for 2 years nearly. getting a bit fed up with things going on at the club and am looking at alternatives... are the potteries leagues on a saturday or sunday? and is there anyone who can give me info on setting a team up in that league.
....... if not my lad is 8 in May and is looking for a team!! i'm from alsager!
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Post by funkyphantom on Apr 14, 2010 12:29:12 GMT
If the club and the league are well run and operate within FA guidlines then any concerns you may have will probably have already been addressed. Certainly the team my lad plays for in Congleton, which is governed by the Cheshire FA, have strict rules and and a number of do's and don'ts that must be complied with and are routinely enforced. (For example there must always be more than one adult in the changing rooms when the kids are in there, we are not allowed to take photo's of the players during a game without the express permission of all other parents of children playing in the game etc. etc.) My lad's league also have a child protection liaison officer who parents can contact if they have any concerns they wish to discuss. Thanks, Thats probably answered my concerns. |
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Post by paulh75 on Apr 14, 2010 12:34:40 GMT
Babyeuan, do you know if they need anymore players for the team? interested in taking my lad there having played against them last year?
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Apr 14, 2010 14:02:59 GMT
Paulh75, We're always looking for new players, especially budding Stoke stars of the future! We've lost about 6 over the past season to the Academies at Stoke and Crewe. We train on a Wednesday and play on a Saturday morning, our home ground is at Back Lane in Congleton. Here's the web site address which should have the contact number for the various age groups. If you have any problems let me know and I'll give you my contact details. www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?PageName=Home&GuildID=324131&TabID=2717319 |
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 14, 2010 14:30:57 GMT
Grays - "football even though hes only 7 he can play up to two year above his age " Not true mate if the under 9's is competitive league footy - if it stays non comp then thats fine. You should see the appeals processes I am going through now to try and get exemption for my keeper! Official rule from the FA is: The standard code of rules for youth competitions states that to play at "under 9 - the player must be under the age of 9 as at midnight on 31st August in the playing season." It also goes on to say that " to play in a KO Cup game or a game where points are awarded, or results collected, a player must have achieved the age of 8 on or before 31st August." I think its crap too but they are the rules alas! Any game that rewards victory with medals or points is not allowable for under 8's - what a load of bollocks! For reference, I am FA Level 1 qualified (which includes First Aid and Child Protection), all of our club managers and coaches have to be Enhanced CRB checked by the FA, we have a club child welfare officer, and I believe from either next season or the one after each individual team will need am assistant welfare rep as well Will be looking to do my level 2 in the next 12 months - there are only 5 levels (level 5 is UEFA Pro Licence, can;t see me getting that just yet :-) ) PMSL will insist on Level 1 minimum for coaches from next season, think Lads n Dads follow suit the year after. Links for PMSL and Biddulph Town Chargers (u8) below including full match reports! I lost one to Stoke before the season started, even though they are not allowed to stop them - kind of leaned on his parents not to play him... Have 2 at the Vale (who don't mind them playing at the min), and my keeper at Utd. www.ourkidssports.com/Leagues/profile/id/27www.clubwebsite.co.uk/biddulphtownyouth/107362/ |
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Post by grandad on Apr 14, 2010 14:31:35 GMT
paulh75
sent you mail
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 14, 2010 14:33:12 GMT
PaulH
Potts Mini is flexible - we play any time over the weekend on the request of the home team.
We always kick off at 10am on Sundays when at home as thats when our pitch is free - most teams play around then
Couple of exceptions in Shamblers, Stone Dominoes and one of the Cheadle teams who play on Saturday mornings or Sunday afternoons
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Post by RAF on Apr 14, 2010 14:35:40 GMT
Non competitive football?
How does that work then?
Just sounds like another PC 'Let the fat kid play' idea by some government killjoy, when in fact they should be educating parents to get their kids outside and being active and not eating pies and mars bars drinking gallons of coke and playing computer games ffs.
Rant Over
H
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2010 14:39:02 GMT
Non competitive football? How does that work then? Just sounds like another PC 'Let the fat kid play' idea by some government killjoy, when in fact they should be educating parents to get their kids outside and being active and not eating pies and mars bars drinking gallons of coke and playing computer games ffs. Rant Over H Let the fat kid play ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by rockhead163 on Apr 14, 2010 15:00:29 GMT
RAF it says Non competitive but you try and tell the managers it's not. All it means is that there is no league table produced but you get the idea of your level from the other results easily enough.
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Post by funkyphantom on Apr 14, 2010 15:45:17 GMT
Now, with fear of going a little off topic here, let me bring it right back. Which clubs, within say 5 miles of Bucknall would be the best for me to take my child? I would like a charter standard football club. Ive had a look at these links so far www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?PageName=Home&GuildID=324131&TabID=2717319 and www.clubwebsite.co.uk/biddulphtownyouth/107362/ Biddulph Town, looks to me, to be the most impressive so far, i especially like the individual player write ups. But i fear that it would be too far to travel twice a week. Sooooo is stoke and its nearer suburbs not a hotbed of decent young teams? |
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Apr 14, 2010 16:49:40 GMT
To be fair RAF, the non-competitive stance is to protect the kids from over competitive parents rather than protecting the sensibilities of the fat kid.
Kids at that age (under 7's, under 8's) just love playing football, to them the result is irrelevant. In my lad I sometimes wonder whether I've created a football monster, he is football daft, yet regularly has to ask me what the result was in games he's just finished playing in. He's been too busy trying to put into practice the latest trick or skill he's learnt to be bothered about who's won.
In some games they take a real hammering, losing 10-1, 12-0 or whatever but the result doesn't matter to them, the key is to get them enjoying the game. Regardless of the result we want the kids to enjoy themselves.
At such a young age it's the parents who enjoy the competition and winning trophies more than the kids. This puts undue pressure on the kids to win rather than simply enjoy playing the game. Sadly in a number of cases this kills the enjoyment for the kids, they no longer want to play.
The emphasis in the early years should be about skills, sportsmanship, discipline and respect. The competitive bit can wait a couple of years.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2010 16:53:38 GMT
Does it work though? I've been and done 10-1 hammerings at that age and it does nothing but piss You off, maybe that was just me!
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Apr 14, 2010 17:10:17 GMT
Bayern, lol.
There's certainly moments of spitting the dummy out from some of the kids during a game when it's all going tits up.
Equally so I get those magic moments when my lad comes off the pitch, his team having been whacked something like 5-0, but all he's bothered about is that I saw him do his latest skill or trick and send the full back the wrong way!
Taking away the competitive bit in those early couple of years allows them to develop skills and techniques without fear of failure in winning matches. It's those skills and techniques that will make them better players.
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Post by rockhead163 on Apr 14, 2010 17:17:04 GMT
FP I know your lad probably wants to start now but maybe there will be more teams available in the summer once people decide to set teams up. I sent you a PM with some info about the PMSL and a couple of options well within your range for travel.
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