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Post by dresdenstokie on Apr 7, 2010 12:33:12 GMT
sorry if already posted... couple of quotes..... "For our next home match against stoke do we do what burnley and west ham did and bring some advertising boards in to cause delap a problem with is tradmark throws, to be fair they both still lost
but delap didnt like them, then one was knocked down and he used the space to get a long throw in
just from an article..... " At the other end, Stoke had their chances too, mostly from set-pieces. Even though West Ham had installed a second set of advertising boards close to the touchline, presumably with the intention of disrupting Delap's long throws, the Stoke midfielder still managed to launch several of his trademark throws into the danger area. "
if we do, make sure we connect them good with a metal bar running straight through the lot !!! so they cant be moved No matter what teams keep trying to do to stop his long throws, he just seems to find methods of getting around it. So it is better off making sure the team are well organised to defend them rather than dreaming up preventative methods that will probably not make a difference during the actual gamewww.the-wolf.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=47236 |
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Post by Danstoke82 on Apr 7, 2010 12:34:09 GMT
Im sure they will find some way of dealing with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 12:37:49 GMT
Is it just me who thinks moving the boarding closer to the pitch is an absolute crock of shit? I don’t give a fuck if other teams want to do things to maximise their chances and tilt things in there favour but not at the players’ expense. Surely by having the boards a metre away from the touchline is a hazard to players if they leave the pitch at high speed, in tackles, challenges etc. Oh well, as long as Rory doesn’t get a run up for his throw in, I suppose that’s the main thing.  |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 7, 2010 12:41:06 GMT
Delap can throw 'em in all day but we need someone to be on the end of 'em.......... .........enter Ryan Shawcross!!!  |
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Post by Do eet fer Paddock on Apr 7, 2010 12:44:41 GMT
Craddock's pretty good in the air, and Hanneman's a quality keeper. I can't see them having too many problems from the throw. As for putting advertising boards a meter from the pitch, shame they didn't do the same with the stands.
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Post by lew86 on Apr 7, 2010 12:50:16 GMT
Is it just me who thinks moving the boarding closer to the pitch is an absolute crock of shit? I don’t give a fuck if other teams want to do things to maximise their chances and tilt things in there favour but not at the players’ expense. Surely by having the boards a metre away from the touchline is a hazard to players if they leave the pitch at high speed, in tackles, challenges etc. Oh well, as long as Rory doesn’t get a run up for his throw in, I suppose that’s the main thing. It gets right on my tits mate. I'd be fucking fuming if I was TP and would do everything in my power to get them taken down. Brain Laws tried to make a joke out of it, but at the end of the day, it is dangerous. Say Tunny is belting it down the wing and someone takes him off the ball and he goes clattering into/over the boarding. Who's responsible? |
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 7, 2010 12:57:32 GMT
Is it just me who thinks moving the boarding closer to the pitch is an absolute crock of shit? I don’t give a fuck if other teams want to do things to maximise their chances and tilt things in there favour but not at the players’ expense. Surely by having the boards a metre away from the touchline is a hazard to players if they leave the pitch at high speed, in tackles, challenges etc. Oh well, as long as Rory doesn’t get a run up for his throw in, I suppose that’s the main thing. It gets right on my tits mate. I'd be fucking fuming if I was TP and would do everything in my power to get them taken down. Brain Laws tried to make a joke out of it, but at the end of the day, it is dangerous. Say Tunny is belting it down the wing and someone takes him off the ball and he goes clattering into/over the boarding. Who's responsible? I find it amusing to be honest, it's the acts of a desperate manager to try to block a player from taking a run up because he has a good throw. However it would be interesting if one of Wolves' better players were to get injured on them and miss the rest of the season, and as a result their results suffered and they went down (bit far fetched I know)... |
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Post by lew86 on Apr 7, 2010 13:03:32 GMT
It gets right on my tits mate. I'd be fucking fuming if I was TP and would do everything in my power to get them taken down. Brain Laws tried to make a joke out of it, but at the end of the day, it is dangerous. Say Tunny is belting it down the wing and someone takes him off the ball and he goes clattering into/over the boarding. Who's responsible? I find it amusing to be honest, it's the acts of a desperate manager to try to block a player from taking a run up because he has a good throw. However it would be interesting if one of Wolves' better players were to get injured on them and miss the rest of the season, and as a result their results suffered and they went down (bit far fetched I know)... I'd definatly pay 38 notes to see Kevin Doyle get impailed. |
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Post by gnosallpotter on Apr 7, 2010 13:27:23 GMT
Mr Red you sicko.
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Post by cartwright4 on Apr 7, 2010 13:29:00 GMT
I wonder if it's actually allowed in the rules (to move the boards)? Perhaps one of our more knowledgeable posters will advise...
At the very least it's bad gamesmanship in my view, essentially restricting your opponent - not by on the field play - but by underhand non-footballing means.
Imagine if hoardings were put right next to the corner flag, restricting the corner takers run up/ability to whip in crosses. It simply wouldn't be allowed, as corners would turn into a farce. So why should it be any different impeding players on the throw-in touch line just because we have a unique player who can create more danger from that type of set-piece?
That said though, I do think the prolonged discussions of "how to deal with the throw" hasressurected its effectiveness this season. Whereas it was a surprise last season; this year the sheer fear of it has been the undoing of some teams.
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Post by KevinWhimper on Apr 7, 2010 13:33:49 GMT
Haven't they got a player who has a very good long throw that is whipped in quicker than Rory's?
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Post by lew86 on Apr 7, 2010 13:38:41 GMT
Haven't they got a player who has a very good long throw that is whipped in quicker than Rory's? According to that thread, their lad throws it long but high, not as direct and flat as Rory's. |
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Apr 7, 2010 13:39:04 GMT
Haven't they got a player who has a very good long throw that is whipped in quicker than Rory's? Don't think it's better than Rory's but yes Greg Halford has got a good long throw on him. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 7, 2010 13:40:45 GMT
I wonder if it's actually allowed in the rules (to move the boards)? Perhaps one of our more knowledgeable posters will advise... At the very least it's bad gamesmanship in my view, essentially restricting your opponent - not by on the field play - but by underhand non-footballing means. Imagine if hoardings were put right next to the corner flag, restricting the corner takers run up/ability to whip in crosses. It simply wouldn't be allowed, as corners would turn into a farce. So why should it be any different impeding players on the throw-in touch line just because we have a unique player who can create more danger from that type of set-piece? That said though, I do think the prolonged discussions of "how to deal with the throw" hasressurected its effectiveness this season. Whereas it was a surprise last season; this year the sheer fear of it has been the undoing of some teams. There is, presumably, a minumum distance there has to be between the line and the crowd and/or advertising boards to allow space for the bloke running the line and for players to go to ground before hitting the boards. But so long as advertising boards are beyond that limit I don't see what is wrong with moving them. A few years back we actually narrowed the pitch in mid season (to try to cope with Chelsea) and that was allowed. If we could do that within the rules I doubt Burnley or Wet Sham did anything outside the rules in moving their boards. Wet Sham's problem was that they ended up giving the crowd a restricted view of the pitch but that is a trading standards problem not a football one. |
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Post by gibby1409 on Apr 7, 2010 14:57:20 GMT
Let em move it up close to the line! Then Rory should run up behind the Boards and throw it in from there. We'd lose a couple of Yards, but he'd be able to send the "Flat One" in?
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Post by Funky on Apr 7, 2010 15:24:18 GMT
They can do what they want at there ground, the same as we can make our pitch smaller to suit our play, we can't have it both ways.
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Post by march4 on Apr 7, 2010 16:07:35 GMT
It's more important to us that Ryan and Mama play in order to make the throws more effective.
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Post by stokelad84 on Apr 7, 2010 16:17:45 GMT
I agree march
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Apr 7, 2010 16:35:47 GMT
They can do what they want at there ground, the same as we can make our pitch smaller to suit our play, we can't have it both ways. They made their pitch the same size as ours so Rory could have a field day. ;D |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 7, 2010 17:50:16 GMT
Let em move it up close to the line! Then Rory should run up behind the Boards and throw it in from there. We'd lose a couple of Yards, but he'd be able to send the "Flat One" in? Can't Rory run, jump over the boards and then throw the ball in |
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Post by actongatestokie on Apr 7, 2010 18:26:26 GMT
Moving advertising hoardings in to deal with a long ball into your own box? Sorry, please remind me... are we in the Ansells league here, with Jumpers for goalposts and one part time training session every never day of the week or the Premier League, with coaches paid millions a year, players paid millions a year with coaching facilities to match? |
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Post by Jimmy Cooper on Apr 7, 2010 19:21:50 GMT
If there's no Shawcross, the throw is not nearly as effective. The amount of headers that Abdy doesn't get to or puts wide is shocking.
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Post by StoKeith on Apr 7, 2010 19:28:09 GMT
If they can move "props" around the edge of the pitch, maybe we should be allowed to put trampolines in place. ;D
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 7, 2010 19:37:43 GMT
Regardless of how pitiful it is that they can't deal with a simple ball into the box to the extent that they've given up trying to find a tactical solution and are instead putting advertising hoardings in dangerous positions, it's their call. Why not just get rid of home advantage altogether? No small pitch, no towels, no multiball, no tactical deployment of ballboys etc? It's a part of football.
P.S. The best way to stop the long throw is to just not give any throw-ins away. It's not impossible, promise.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Apr 7, 2010 20:24:24 GMT
Are they going to install a moat on the half way line to stop Fuller picking the ball up rounding 3 of them and slotting it past the keeper?
We scored from a throw at Burnley but it was where there was a gap between the boards. The long throw is a perfect weapon against a team like Wolves - they're not completely clear from the drop and their fans could make them nervy as they're renowned for getting on their teams back. A couple of throws early on put in the right area and we'll be on the front foot from the off.
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Post by kidsgrove4 on Apr 8, 2010 5:51:48 GMT
That's the least of their worries watching them this year.
They can try what they like.
I actually have a feeling Stoke are going to give them a touch up on the field this week.
We are like cheese, tomato and butter. On a roll.
K4
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Post by Irish Stokie on Apr 8, 2010 9:11:37 GMT
Well it is proven that moving the hoardings closer has no effect on the quality of Roroy's throws. That said, there is no minimum distance as some clubs have the stand right on the touch line too, Craven Cottage for example and the big 5 foot hill around the edge of Old Trafford is surely more dangerous then advertising hoardings
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