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Post by jpm64 on Apr 6, 2010 15:01:38 GMT
Made this Statement... "I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the Earth was flat … I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria." I'll give you a clue he's the leader of the BNP
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Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 6, 2010 15:02:33 GMT
Terrence Trent D'Arby?
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Apr 6, 2010 15:08:34 GMT
Terry Wogan
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Post by Ron Jeremy on Apr 6, 2010 15:09:58 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Apr 6, 2010 15:18:02 GMT
and your point?
millions of people believe in god, dont make them right........................or wrong
statements dragged up like that wont stop the bnp only the mainstream parties getting their act together will
thats is exactly how hitler got into power
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Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 6, 2010 15:20:13 GMT
Any publicity is good publicity (and the BN.P will need all the help they can to get into the newspapers)
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Post by ihaveadream on Apr 6, 2010 17:04:40 GMT
Made this Statement... "I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the Earth was flat … I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria." I'll give you a clue he's the leader of the BNP Its the Pig in a Wig himself
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Post by ravenonthewing on Apr 6, 2010 17:10:20 GMT
Gandhi ?
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Post by Arthurdollar on Apr 6, 2010 17:19:39 GMT
With his mate, Goosie Goosie. ;D
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Post by jpm64 on Apr 8, 2010 12:08:41 GMT
and your point? millions of people believe in god, dont make them right........................or wrong statements dragged up like that wont stop the bnp only the mainstream parties getting their act together will thats is exactly how hitler got into power I would of thought my point was quite obvious but here you go... It seem the leader of a party which some on here seem to support denies the holocaust ever happend. I wonder what those soldiers who liberated Belsen would think about their grandchildren voting for such a party ???
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Post by french toast on Apr 8, 2010 12:11:45 GMT
and your point? millions of people believe in god, dont make them right........................or wrong statements dragged up like that wont stop the bnp only the mainstream parties getting their act together will thats is exactly how hitler got into power I would of thought my point was quite obvious but here you go... It seem the leader of a party which some on here seem to support denies the holocaust ever happend. I wonder what those soldiers who liberated Belsen would think about their grandchildren voting for such a party ??? well he denied saying it on question time, so if you werent there when he said it you have no proof your just licking the arses of the press
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Apr 8, 2010 12:17:03 GMT
I believe I'm correct when I say that it was Keith Chegwin.
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Post by jpm64 on Apr 8, 2010 12:18:02 GMT
I would of thought my point was quite obvious but here you go... It seem the leader of a party which some on here seem to support denies the holocaust ever happend. I wonder what those soldiers who liberated Belsen would think about their grandchildren voting for such a party ??? well he denied saying it on question time, so if you werent there when he said it you have no proof your just licking the arses of the press This Proof enough ???
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Post by french toast on Apr 8, 2010 12:19:42 GMT
not really, you can tell its edited to make a point
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Post by salopstick on Apr 8, 2010 12:21:18 GMT
like i said, it doesnt mean he was right
blair got elected on the back of tory sleaze now look at the labour party
there are people who genuine believe the holocaust is myth
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Post by jpm64 on Apr 8, 2010 12:24:33 GMT
not really, you can tell its edited to make a point Maybe this then... www.hopenothate.org.uk/the-real-bnp/Profile-of-Nick-Griffin.phpIt was his statements denying the Holocaust in The Rune that led to Griffin's conviction in 1998 of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred. He was given a nine-month prison sentence suspended for two years. During the trial Griffin made his notorious statement: "I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the Earth was flat … I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria."
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Post by jpm64 on Apr 8, 2010 12:29:41 GMT
like i said, it doesnt mean he was right blair got elected on the back of tory sleaze now look at the labour party there are people who genuine believe the holocaust is myth Do you believe it was ??? I wonder if these soldiers thought it was... francisanderson.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/c.jpg
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Post by salopstick on Apr 8, 2010 12:29:53 GMT
i for one hope we get a bnp mp somewhere even as a protest, it will take that for the mainstream parties to effectivly tackle this countries immigration problem
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Post by french toast on Apr 8, 2010 12:30:30 GMT
not really, you can tell its edited to make a point Maybe this then... www.hopenothate.org.uk/the-real-bnp/Profile-of-Nick-Griffin.phpIt was his statements denying the Holocaust in The Rune that led to Griffin's conviction in 1998 of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred. He was given a nine-month prison sentence suspended for two years. During the trial Griffin made his notorious statement: "I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the Earth was flat … I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria." they aint exactly from sources that can see all sides though one is edited to look that awful the other is from something called the real side of the bnp like i have said, i couldnt give a fuck about any party. non of them will do fuck all for me, they are all out for themselves
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Post by jpm64 on Apr 8, 2010 12:33:19 GMT
Maybe this then... www.hopenothate.org.uk/the-real-bnp/Profile-of-Nick-Griffin.phpIt was his statements denying the Holocaust in The Rune that led to Griffin's conviction in 1998 of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred. He was given a nine-month prison sentence suspended for two years. During the trial Griffin made his notorious statement: "I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the Earth was flat … I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria." they aint exactly from sources that can see all sides though one is edited to look that awful the other is from something called the real side of the bnp like i have said, i couldnt give a fuck about any party. non of them will do fuck all for me, they are all out for themselves He made the statement at his trial !!! I reckon court records should be proof enough surely ??? I think you will find that he does not deny having said this in the past but that he has now " changed his mind "
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Post by french toast on Apr 8, 2010 12:33:23 GMT
i for one hope we get a bnp mp somewhere even as a protest, it will take that for the mainstream parties to effectivly tackle this countries immigration problem totally agree
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Post by french toast on Apr 8, 2010 12:35:28 GMT
they aint exactly from sources that can see all sides though one is edited to look that awful the other is from something called the real side of the bnp like i have said, i couldnt give a fuck about any party. non of them will do fuck all for me, they are all out for themselves He made the statement at his trial !!! I reckon court records should be proof enough surely ??? I think you will find that he does not deny having said this in the past but that he has now " changed his mind " who really gives a shit what he said?? i have said loads of shite in the past, im sure you have too
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Post by salopstick on Apr 8, 2010 12:39:14 GMT
like i said, it doesnt mean he was right blair got elected on the back of tory sleaze now look at the labour party there are people who genuine believe the holocaust is myth Do you believe it was ??? I wonder if these soldiers thought it was... francisanderson.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/c.jpgright here goes: firstly don t dont tar me with that denial brush or even imply after ww1 hitler got into power after much scaremongering about jews and how germany had been hard done by, i know its more to that but thats the gist now griffin is trying the same, every time people bring up his past i dont believe it puts people off, but what it does do is bring out all the bnp supporters with there counter arguments tyhe bnp in my opinion are scum, (people say the same about the tories) but any publicity is good publicity now i believe in the holocaust but i dont believe in islam, am i wrong, maybe but billions of muslims will disagree with me. this countries immigration policies over the last 20 years has been rubbish, no party has the bollocks to really control it. the bnp do!! i do not agree with their policy or methods but it will take the extreme act of a bnp mp is stoke, blackburn or burnley to really make the new pm who ever he may be to tackle the problem properly
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Post by jpm64 on Apr 8, 2010 12:41:00 GMT
i have said loads of shite in the past We agree on something at least
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Post by jpm64 on Apr 8, 2010 12:45:27 GMT
right here goes: firstly don t dont tar me with that denial brush or even imply after ww1 hitler got into power after much scaremongering about jews and how germany had been hard done by, i know its more to that but thats the gist now griffin is trying the same, every time people bring up his past i dont believe it puts people off, but what it does do is bring out all the bnp supporters with there counter arguments tyhe bnp in my opinion are scum, (people say the same about the tories) but any publicity is good publicity no i dont believe the denial but i also dont believe in islam, am i wrong, maybe but billions of muslims will disagree with me. this countries immigration policies over the last 20 years has been rubbish, no party has the bollocks to really control it. the bnp do!! i do not agree with their policy or methods but it will take the extreme act of a bnp mp is stoke, blackburn or burnley to really make the new pm who ever he may be to tackle the problem properly I didn't tar you with any brush ! You said many people thought it was a myth and I merely asked what YOU thought ! As for a BNP MP in Stoke what do you honestly think that would do to the reputation of the City ???
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Post by french toast on Apr 8, 2010 12:46:02 GMT
i have said loads of shite in the past We agree on something at least ;D but there you go again, selective quoting, you really have just proven my point about how easy it is to turn something innocent and non controversial into something that is im not saying that griffin hasnt said that or that he is ever correct, but he certainly has been misquoted an awful lot. i agree with salop on this one, i hate the bnp also and it would be a disgrace if they ever got into power (never going to happen) but if they actually got an mp in it would be the quick sharp shock thats needed for the main partys and the pm to actually act
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Post by jpm64 on Apr 8, 2010 12:49:17 GMT
We agree on something at least ;D but there you go again, selective quoting, you really have just proven my point about how easy it is to turn something innocent and non controversial into something that is im not saying that griffin hasnt said that or that he is ever correct, but he certainly has been misquoted an awful lot. i agree with salop on this one, i hate the bnp also and it would be a disgrace if they ever got into power (never going to happen) but if they actually got an mp in it would be the quick sharp shock thats needed for the main partys and the pm to actually act You're right about my selective quoting of course and I realised as I did it what your argument could be BUT I simply couldn't resist ;D
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Post by french toast on Apr 8, 2010 12:50:26 GMT
;D ;D
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Post by salopstick on Apr 8, 2010 20:40:09 GMT
right here goes: firstly don t dont tar me with that denial brush or even imply after ww1 hitler got into power after much scaremongering about jews and how germany had been hard done by, i know its more to that but thats the gist now griffin is trying the same, every time people bring up his past i dont believe it puts people off, but what it does do is bring out all the bnp supporters with there counter arguments tyhe bnp in my opinion are scum, (people say the same about the tories) but any publicity is good publicity no i dont believe the denial but i also dont believe in islam, am i wrong, maybe but billions of muslims will disagree with me. this countries immigration policies over the last 20 years has been rubbish, no party has the bollocks to really control it. the bnp do!! i do not agree with their policy or methods but it will take the extreme act of a bnp mp is stoke, blackburn or burnley to really make the new pm who ever he may be to tackle the problem properly I didn't tar you with any brush ! You said many people thought it was a myth and I merely asked what YOU thought ! As for a BNP MP in Stoke what do you honestly think that would do to the reputation of the City ??? it would do the city much harm my point is that the bnp has extreme policies yes, but they are based on the less extreme thoughts of many people in the country i understand why they are picking up support, it must not be the words of blue red and yellow condemning them but their actions
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Post by jpm64 on Apr 9, 2010 8:59:18 GMT
I didn't tar you with any brush ! You said many people thought it was a myth and I merely asked what YOU thought ! As for a BNP MP in Stoke what do you honestly think that would do to the reputation of the City ??? it would do the city much harm my point is that the bnp has extreme policies yes, but they are based on the less extreme thoughts of many people in the country i understand why they are picking up support, it must not be the words of blue red and yellow condemning them but their actions When looking at Stoke in particular I would agree that the Labour party ( which I remain a supporter of ) have taken the support of a large white working class population for granted, however, whilst I would never tell anyone how they should vote I would implore everyone who is considering voting BNP to look very closely at what they actualy stand for and what damage the election of a facist MP would do to the City's reputation !
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