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Post by stokelad84 on Mar 18, 2010 11:10:45 GMT
It took Arsene Wenger 10 years to change Arsenals whole philosophy.
So would take TP a similar amount of time
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2010 11:14:32 GMT
I think we just have to change the ethos by teaching the youngest members of our academy to play a pass and move game similar to how Spurs in the days of Danny Blanchflower and Johnny Haynes, Stoke in the days of Greenhoff and Hudson, The Dutch team of Johann Cruyff and the Barcelona team of today. Stoke and West Ham were known as teams with this footballing ethos but it has to start at the lowest level. This is off the top of my head, I really haven't thought it through and there may be obvious faults. I think all the teams in the top half of the table play better football than us. That really speaks for itself. Why do we HAVE to though? We've lost just twice this calendar year. I agree that mixing it up and evolving the playing style is important, but you're talking about a complete overhaul, and I think that's a pretty dangerous game to play. Playing to our strengths is what has got us this far. Most of the teams in the top half of the table have far greater resources than we do - it's far easier to play sexy football when you can spunk hundreds of millions on doing it. Even then, teams like Liverpool, Chelsea and Villa aren't millions of miles away from us in terms of style of play.
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Post by tqstokie on Mar 18, 2010 14:50:35 GMT
Well starting from the bottom is not going to change things overnight. It will take years as someone has previously said. To me it is an attitude of mind and improving the product to give the supporters value for money. At the moment the effort is there for all to see but it is not very pretty and supporters of football will not put up with it indefinitely. Mr Pulis has done a great job thus far of that there is no doubt. On 27,000 gates we will not be able to fund the purchase and wages of much better players therefore we have to produce our own. Now whether the changes can be made before we are found out and lose our status that remains to be seen.
Incidently, I think chelsea are vastly superior and so are Villa it is a credit to us that we can compete.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2010 15:13:56 GMT
Well starting from the bottom is not going to change things overnight. It will take years as someone has previously said. To me it is an attitude of mind and improving the product to give the supporters value for money. At the moment the effort is there for all to see but it is not very pretty and supporters of football will not put up with it indefinitely. Mr Pulis has done a great job thus far of that there is no doubt. On 27,000 gates we will not be able to fund the purchase and wages of much better players therefore we have to produce our own. Now whether the changes can be made before we are found out and lose our status that remains to be seen. Incidently, I think chelsea are vastly superior and so are Villa it is a credit to us that we can compete. Well the likes of Wigan, Blackburn, Fulham and Bolton haven't been "found out" yet so I'm not too worried about us. In my opinion, given it's only our second season here, things are going pretty much as well as could humanly be expected. We're gradually establishing ourselves as a bona fide top flight team. Chelsea and Villa are obviously superior to us - they should be, they're hugely established, experienced top flight clubs with much greater resources. Yet I wouldn't say their football was especially pretty to watch and given the earlier Barcelona comparisons, I'd struggle to think of more than 5 teams in the league who play consistently attractive, passing football. Most of the ones who do are the ones who can comfortably afford to.
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