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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 9, 2008 22:26:44 GMT
Queiroz reference to Taylor was appalling. He does after all work for a club where the manager declared the best player he's ever worked with to be someone who deliberately set out to injure a player....which he did....which he went on to boast about a few years later. Fergusons press conference rant was utterly shyte too. In that game Man yoo might have had a penno. No more or less than that. BUT the scale and extent of him going on was uncalled for. Perhaps some people in the game have to learn to lose a game with dignity.
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Post by Butters on Mar 9, 2008 22:32:11 GMT
This is why i hate Manure they think it's against the law for the ref not give them every decision, sore losing cuts arh piss me off so much  Just take the loss your own fault, wankers! |
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 9, 2008 23:09:33 GMT
They certainly don't help themselves.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 9, 2008 23:14:51 GMT
The only people that lost Man Yoo that game were their own players. When You miss that many chances You deserve fuck all. As was the case with us against Preston last week.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 9, 2008 23:19:21 GMT
Spot on bayernoatcake.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2008 23:20:20 GMT
They should have had a penalty and the red card was harsh.
Ferguson has made an utter twat of himself with his rank hypocrisy after all refs have given them over the years though, and Quieroz's comments about Taylor were disgusting. Any justified grievances they might have had have been utterly discredited.
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Post by powchirper on Mar 9, 2008 23:26:51 GMT
Fergie is just laying down the foundations for more sold trafford bias from weak minded refs who will all have seen this rant and wont dare give anything to the opposition in future, and the pizza faced twat knows this |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Mar 9, 2008 23:27:55 GMT
Although strictly not a ManU hater myself, the management let the club down badly with their after match comments.
Just hope the FA have the balls to take the appropriate action against Ferguson and his assistant.
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Post by madeinstoke on Mar 9, 2008 23:30:01 GMT
i thought the management team at man utd were the FA?
utter bollocks what was said after by them.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Mar 9, 2008 23:32:08 GMT
That's basically what I wrote! (apart from the management team being the FA, don't quite understand what you mean by that)
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Post by serpico on Mar 9, 2008 23:36:08 GMT
what did Quiroz say about Taylor ?
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Post by madeinstoke on Mar 9, 2008 23:37:32 GMT
sorry y o y!!!
what i was trying to say is they get away with murder, the FA consulted fergie (a scot) who to appoint as england manager (i know other managers too were asked, but a scot?!).
just feels that if it was another club/manager it would be dealt with extremely quickly and harshly.
waiting to see if man utd do get punished by the fa.
dont know if thats made my comments any clearer, just how i feel, sorry.
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Post by Did it for firkz008 on Mar 10, 2008 11:00:29 GMT
Didn't see much wrong with the comments, the tackles were rash and deliberately set to completely wipe out ronaldo at every opportunity with no care for the ball.
I remember standing watching Fuller being wiped out at Preston whilst running down the right wing before the end of the first half with no action taken against the player and all stoke fans crying about that.
We complained abt the ref and fans labelled his performce disgusting so why united wouldnt moan abt the same tackles x3 on ron within the same 5 mins isnt hard to imagine....
....but its manu n when they are mentioned all the normal biast bitter remarks come out lol
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Post by powchirper on Mar 10, 2008 11:04:45 GMT
fuck em, im still laughing at the pizza faced twat crying satdee night, well played pompey ;D
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Mar 10, 2008 12:17:26 GMT
At least Wenger had the decency to admit that his comments about Taylor were rash and said in the heat of the moment. Remains to be seen if Queiroz does the same.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 10, 2008 13:03:10 GMT
Didn't see much wrong with the comments, the tackles were rash and deliberately set to completely wipe out ronaldo at every opportunity with no care for the ball. I remember standing watching Fuller being wiped out at Preston whilst running down the right wing before the end of the first half with no action taken against the player and all stoke fans crying about that. We complained abt the ref and fans labelled his performce disgusting so why united wouldnt moan abt the same tackles x3 on ron within the same 5 mins isnt hard to imagine.... ....but its manu n when they are mentioned all the normal biast bitter remarks come out lol Load of bollocks youth! That one on Fuller took him out at the knee. Ronaldo's penalty was a shoulder barge. Ronaldo is talking out of his arse about protection too. Football is a contact, You get barged and You get miss timed tackles. To eradicate miss timed tackles You need to eradicate tackles. You do that You won't have football! So fuck off You little Portuguese twat! |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2008 13:08:42 GMT
Behave Bayern - whatever the wrongs of Fergie's rant and the hypocrisy of his comments, it was a clear, clear penalty on Ronaldo. It was way harder than a shoulder barge - Distin wasn't going to get there so he clattered him.
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Post by lordb on Mar 10, 2008 13:13:45 GMT
@ what point should the shit have had a penalty?
& how is it a harsh red card,he'd just gone round the keeper for fucks sake if thats not (unless its Mama...)a clear goal scoring opportunity then what is?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 10, 2008 13:14:11 GMT
Deep down I know it was but I don't think it should be-it was a hard shoulder barge-but that's all part of good defending for my liking. Plus Ronaldo went down way too easy and did his puppy dog eyes at the ref. I bet Atkinson just thought at that point fuck off You diving tart-he didn't help himself in that way. It just pisses me off that people want football to be like basketball.
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Post by thestatusquo on Mar 10, 2008 13:14:41 GMT
RVD
I have to disagree. Read Distins comments about the incident. He stood his ground and used his strength as he does not have to get out of the way. It was shoulder to shoulder. It was firm but fair.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2008 13:15:32 GMT
He wasn't the last man for a start. Did he throw his face at Baros' knee?
It was a penalty but not a red card. Ronaldo was clearly taken out by Distin, which was a penalty.
That said, it's hard to have any sympathy for Man Yoo, but if that had happened to Stoke I'd have been chuffing furious.
Quo - Of course Distin's going to say that!
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Post by Do it for bringbackthevic on Mar 10, 2008 13:16:49 GMT
Didn't see much wrong with the comments, the tackles were rash and deliberately set to completely wipe out ronaldo at every opportunity with no care for the ball. I remember standing watching Fuller being wiped out at Preston whilst running down the right wing before the end of the first half with no action taken against the player and all stoke fans crying about that. We complained abt the ref and fans labelled his performce disgusting so why united wouldnt moan abt the same tackles x3 on ron within the same 5 mins isnt hard to imagine.... ....but its manu n when they are mentioned all the normal biast bitter remarks come out lol If portsmouths tackles where so bad how come rooney stayed on the pitch when he did the worst tackle of the game ? |
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Post by Do it for bringbackthevic on Mar 10, 2008 13:19:20 GMT
RVD I have to disagree. Read Distins comments about the incident. He stood his ground and used his strength as he does not have to get out of the way. It was shoulder to shoulder. It was firm but fair. That would be fair comment if Distin was already standing at the point of the incident but he wasn't. He came running in at a different angle to Ronaldo, got nowhere near the ball and took Ronaldo out. Stone wall penalty. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 10, 2008 13:19:45 GMT
It was good defending-used his strength and Ronaldo went down like a sack of shit. Regarding the sending off it was harsh but if the ref thinks he has denied a clear goalscoring opportunity he has to walk.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 10, 2008 13:24:00 GMT
Do you not have to be the last man though? Isn't that like saying, "if the ref thinks Andy Griffin made a bad challenge then he has to go"? The ref was wrong.
Distin was nowhere near the ball and obstructed Ronaldo. They weren't side by side, shoulder to shoulder, he came in, got nowhere near the ball, and took out the man. If that isn't a penalty I don't know what is. In this case I don't think it's even a case of Ronaldo diving, I think most strikers would have been knocked over by the force of that challenge.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 10, 2008 13:29:05 GMT
I always thought You had to be last man but recently this term 'denying a goalscoring opportunity' has been used with regards sending offs.
I'm not saying he dived, he just went down too theatrically. Distin really didn't need to make the tackle anyway as James looked like he was going to get the ball but I still think it was a shoulder barge.
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Post by Did it for firkz008 on Mar 10, 2008 13:29:11 GMT
It was a stone wall penalty.
The two earlier tackles which people clearly arent refering to were worse than the penalty. Distin wiped Ronaldo off the pitch moments before wiping him off the ball in the box.
Football is a contact sport Bayern but if you cant recognise a player who deliberately runs ACROSS another player in a different direction than the ball on several occasions or give them the term mis-timed' needs a visit to spec savers!
The tackle where he ran in with his arm and threw him off the pitch towards the subs bench was a joke!
But youve clearly shown what i meant by being biast against manu with your clear biast again ronaldo. No point having a rational convo about it is there really Bayern you just summed up by point lol
BTW Rooney DID get a booking even though there was NO contact with the player and he went in with one stretched foot attemptin to get the ball, something that Distin clearly wasnt looking at on every occasion he went within Ronaldo.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 10, 2008 13:39:45 GMT
I have no bias against Man Yoo. I like the way they play football and admire the way they go all out attack and utilise the full backs in doing so. I also think Ronaldo is the best player in the world and enjoy watching him play. But what I enjoy more is when a defender essentially wins their battle with him. A defenders job is to stop that threat and if You can You do it by any means possible. Rooney and Fuller, You'd pinch them, stand on their toes and say stuff to them that wil get them sent off, Ronaldo You beat him up and mark him. That's defending it isn't pretty but it needs to be done. The only bias I have against Ronaldo is that he dives and I don't like it-Hendrie pissed me off for the same reason.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 10, 2008 14:08:23 GMT
The one where Ronaldo was 'wiped' out before the peno incident was a good old fashioned shoulder....no foul.It should have been a peno for a blatant charge at Ronaldo .
Rooney should have been sent off whether or not he made contact.The intent was there and the boot was above ball height.It could easily ended with the sa.me result as Eduardo.Luckily for Rooney he didnt make contact as his was more intentional than Taylors.
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Post by manc_lass14 on Mar 10, 2008 14:22:48 GMT
Queiroz apologises
Carlos Queiroz has issued an apology for comments he made about a Birmingham City player following United's FA Cup defeat to Portsmouth.
The Reds' assistant manager was voicing his concern about referees not protecting skilful players when he referred to Martin Taylor, the Birmingham defender sent off for a foul on Arsenal striker Eduardo in a much-publicised incident last month.
Queiroz has since reviewed his remarks. He told ManUtd.com today:
"I am deeply sorry if my comments, made when emotions were running high after the Portsmouth game, were misconstrued.
"Everyone at Manchester United knows that Martin Taylor is not that type of player.
"All I sought to say was that in the modern game, because of its speed, we need to have more vigilance on mistimed tackles.
"I apologise for any upset my remarks may have caused.”
Looks like he apologised... Hmmm
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