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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 9, 2010 7:54:40 GMT
How is this going to work ffs. Bringing out more unenforcable legislation is about all this government seems to be capable of. Apparently forcing dog owners to chip and insure their pooches will stop them from attacking people and other dogs. My dog is chipped and insured which includes 3rd party insurance but that is my choice and the 3rd party bit is an add-on for the vet insurance. The dangerous dog register anner worked and neither will this barmy idea from our illustrious leaders.
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Post by mumf14 on Mar 9, 2010 10:05:46 GMT
It will work because if your dog attacks another dog it can now be traced back to you. This technology was never available years ago and may prevent irresponsible owners from ignoring their responsibilities.The idea is that when a dog is taken for its jabs as a pup, that it is then compulsory micro chipped thus ensuring blanket coverage and accountability.
Any owners who then have attacked other dogs will then be monitored to make sure that their dogs are adequately muzzled.The incidence of dangerous dog attacks against other animals and poeople is increasing and most professional organisations have welcomed the move.Personally,(and I have an active interest) I also think it is a step in the right direction and has been needed for quite some time. It may not be a perfect solution , but if one were to add up the cost of these viscious dog attacks nationally both in terms of pain and suffering and also cost, then you could maybe appreciate the reason behind why the government is taking such measures.
It's a damned sight better than the Tories plans to bring back Fox Hunting afterall ,is it not..?
I wonder how much money that is going to cost..?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 9, 2010 18:20:20 GMT
Well I won't be paying it. I have 2 dogs and am fortunate enough to have a large garden so I don't need to walk them. If some daft twat wants to come into my garden or house then good luck to them. I am fucked if I am paying to cover the medical expenses of some robbing chav. The main reason behind it is to try and get chavs to stop buying Staff bulls etc. Well it won't stop them because they won't pay it so what is the point?
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 9, 2010 18:43:28 GMT
Another tax on the law abiding, they're the only people daft enough to pay  I mean there's no way a criminal who was intending to use his dog as a weapon would even think about getting it chipped with dodgy details would they This government can't even police the sex offenders register or criminals with electronic tags so you're tapped if you think they could enforce this even if they could be arsed. |
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Post by elystokie on Mar 9, 2010 18:52:17 GMT
Well I won't be paying it. I have 2 dogs and am fortunate enough to have a large garden so I don't need to walk them. If some daft twat wants to come into my garden or house then good luck to them. I am fucked if I am paying to cover the medical expenses of some robbing chav. The main reason behind it is to try and get chavs to stop buying Staff bulls etc. Well it won't stop them because they won't pay it so what is the point? Exactly |
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Post by mcscooby on Mar 9, 2010 19:13:29 GMT
There's a compulsory insurance for motor vehicles and those pricks who're the most likely to crash into you are the same ones who don't get insurance. Why would it be any different for dog owners?
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 9, 2010 20:23:40 GMT
Cost nothing compared to what the ban itself has cost in terms of peoples livelihoods, countryside management, lost livestock not to mention waste of police time in investigating so called transgressions of the ban. The socialists only agenda was to appease the working class who saw fox hunting as a sport for the elite which it fucking well isn't here in Devon. Another devisive law like Scottish Independence and Welsh devolution. Still only another couple of months before sanity is restored to our country only this time we should ensure we put socialism firmly in the gutter where it should have gone when Queen Maggie came to the throne in 1979.
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Post by mumf14 on Mar 9, 2010 21:27:25 GMT
Cost nothing compared to what the ban itself has cost in terms of peoples livelihoods, countryside management, lost livestock not to mention waste of police time in investigating so called transgressions of the ban. The socialists only agenda was to appease the working class who saw fox hunting as a sport for the elite which it fucking well isn't here in Devon. Another devisive law like Scottish Independence and Welsh devolution. Still only another couple of months before sanity is restored to our country only this time we should ensure we put socialism firmly in the gutter where it should have gone when Queen Maggie came to the throne in 1979. The Socialist government recognised that fox hunting was a cruel and unnecessary sport for the elite as the vast majority of both MP's and the British public realised and as a result was banned. Cruelty against wildlife is a sick and depraved habit of criminals and the Police do a sterling job in its control. Its not just the foxes that are injured or killed, its also the dogs and horses too.Last year a huntsman with plums in his gob jumped a fence in front of a car in which I was travelling and ended up on the bonnet.The guy then dusted himself down and then accosted the person I was travelling with, shouting abuse. My colleague who was ''very working class'' smashed him in the face, knocking him out. We then drove off, with parity restored. You must have a warped sort of sick pleasure if you think putting already poor people 'in the gutter' is the right way to run a country and its citizens. THE MORE THE MONKEY CLIMBS THE TREE ...THE MORE IT SHOWS ITS ARSE. mumf. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 10, 2010 22:05:28 GMT
Your comment About "huntsman with plum in his gob" is exactly my point. The socialists did a great job in persuading the working class that fox hunters were the elite that needed to be brought down a peg or two. I say again that is far from the truth in Devon where an industry has been decimated with many people losing work. As for your comments about "putting poor people in the gutter" I guess you are talking about our welfare system that encourages idleness and cheating and helps to increase our teenage pregnancy statistics by paying more for more kids whilst ensuring teenage mums can live in social housing that is meant for poorer families.
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Post by mumf14 on Mar 11, 2010 1:13:08 GMT
Foxhunting always has been and always will be a sport for ''elite'' of this country whether it be Devon, Durham or anywhere else for that matter. One tyre, from one vehicle used in persuit of this cruel and barbaric 'sport' is equivalent' two to three weeks benefit for your average jobseeker...or a whole weeks earnings for your average McDonalds slave.!! Whilst this country is hoodwinked by the Conservatives into believing that it is the benefit system to blame for the lack of economic prosperity in this country, they will continue to reward the idle rich and famous in whichever way they can.
How much 'cheating' occurs when your average millionaire does his personal accounts do you reckon..? The benefit system is there as an essential safety net to protect the vulnerable of society without which this country would cease to be 'Great'. You seem to forget that it was the Victorians who first realised that this country was only as healthy as those people on the bottom rung of societies ladder.!This country has benefitted immensely during the few years under Labour by getting the long term unemployed back into work along with encouraging single mothers too.All that will be thrown away once again, when the Conservartives march back into power. Once again we will return to high unemployment , low economic investment , and tax cuts for the wealthy. Already inheritance tax cuts , capital gains tax and income tax cuts are being muted for those at the very top end of the social ladder. I have no doubt it will please those people who are already very wealthy or have the benfit of inherited wealth , but less so those poorer families already struggling to survive through the current global recession. Every time the Tories come to power the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.
It'll be the ''I'm alright Jack'' economic miracle back once more.I just hope that this time we don't have the riots , the boom and bust, the poll tax ,or the 14% interest rates which went with the last Tory government. God help us all if that happens.!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 11, 2010 7:46:17 GMT
The difference between a socialist goverenment that taxes hard earned money in the form of inheritance that a responsible parent wants to pass on to their children to help secure their future and a conservative government that wants to have a fair welfare system that targets the poor and vunerable and not the "idle, I'm alright jack the state will provide" is that the conservatives will always encourage free enterprise and investment that is for the benefit of those who take the risks.
Yes of course cheating occurs with tax evasion etc etc but on nowhere near the scale of cheating benefit claimers who are quite capable of working but prefer a life of living of state benefits.
How has the country benefited from encouraging single mothers?? Immorality, family values, etc etc. I am not saying that all single mothers fall into this catagory but the system has encouraged a boom in teenage pregnancies and single motherhood. I can quote an example near to where I live of a single mother of 4 children who has a nice income from the state and lives in a 4 bedroomed council house for free in a Devon Village that people pay a fortune to buy a house in. She also knows thaty under current rules when her children have flown the nest in a few years time the council cannot evict her to a smaller property.
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Post by potterglen on Mar 18, 2010 9:21:24 GMT
How has a forum for Dog Insurance and Micro chipping turned into a political debate?
This is a dangerous dog and indiscriminate breeding issue - check out the Hospitals, Vets and Dog Rescue Centres.
There is no dog register so it is impossible to monitor - end of, the same as banned drivers, uninsured drivers continue to flaunt the law.
lawryleslie get back on your horse and ride into the horizon, fact is that chasing a fox then ripping it to shreds is animal cruelty and do you believe that 'Rural Folk' are the only ones to be out of work?
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Post by salopstick on Apr 18, 2010 15:47:47 GMT
This country has benefitted immensely during the few years under Labour by getting the long term unemployed back into work along with encouraging single mothers too.All that will be thrown away once again, when the Conservartives march back into power. Once again we will return to high unemployment , low economic investment , and tax cuts for the wealthy. comedy genius ;D ;D ;D how did i miss this thread |
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I mean there's no way a criminal who was intending to use his dog as a weapon would even think about getting it chipped with dodgy details would they 
