coll45
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Post by coll45 on Mar 9, 2008 0:52:46 GMT
but i dont think theres anything to complain about were still there with a chance whatever we say wont make the team selection change its upto pulis he said today when lawrence his missing gally can play wide and he is after another goalscorer on loan so lets see what happens and get behind the lads .
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Post by algor on Mar 9, 2008 1:00:53 GMT
I agree Coll. we are still in the mix for automatic and almost sure of the playoffs. CAN ANYONE say they predicted us to be second in March? Last year we were desperate for the playoffs and this year we are fighting for automatic. We have made a huge step forward.
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Post by lesleystoke on Mar 9, 2008 1:06:55 GMT
we all luv fuller but 2day a moaning git, but last 20 min or so against QPR brill only hope of a goal, but jf mum would neva start with the BEAST ..
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Post by anarchicalan on Mar 9, 2008 1:07:28 GMT
Coll45 - I think you have a great idea there. Nugent alongside Fuller would be a test for any defence.
If we played two up front.
If we did, then why waste money on Nugent? We have Cresswell already.
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Post by lesleystoke on Mar 9, 2008 1:15:04 GMT
NUGENT .. NUGENT.. IS HE ON THE PAYROLL YET~
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Post by apb1 on Mar 9, 2008 1:18:05 GMT
Coll45 - I think you have a great idea there. Nugent alongside Fuller would be a test for any defence. If we played two up front. If we did, then why waste money on Nugent? We have Cresswell already. Er, because Nugent is better? Why did we sign Cresswell when we could play Pericard? |
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Post by anarchicalan on Mar 9, 2008 1:22:56 GMT
apb1 ... now you're just being silly.
Nugent may be better than Cresswell, I don't honestly know, but Cresswell deserves a chance to play in his proper position and pericant is just the sort of player we should offload to Stafford Rangers ........... reserves.
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Post by lesleystoke on Mar 9, 2008 1:31:03 GMT
anarch56 .. AGREE M8
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Mar 9, 2008 9:25:36 GMT
apb1 ... now you're just being silly. Nugent may be better than Cresswell, I don't honestly know, but Cresswell deserves a chance to play in his proper position and pericant is just the sort of player we should offload to Stafford Rangers ........... reserves. I know that Stafford Rangers are having a very bad season, but surely they're not that desperate? |
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Mar 9, 2008 9:28:34 GMT
Coll45 - I think you have a great idea there. Nugent alongside Fuller would be a test for any defence. If we played two up front. If we did, then why waste money on Nugent? We have Cresswell already. Er, because Nugent is better? Why did we sign Cresswell when we could play Pericard? prove it, cresswell has scored 10 goals already.... Last time nugent played in the championship he only netted around that amount..... I thought he was a "goal scorer". Over rated player, good championship standard, but nothing else. Cresswell will work harder than Nugent, AND nick more goals..... So if Pulis wants a striker, look no further than the one he is playing on the wing... Although if Nugent signed, physcologically it would be a big boost for EVERYONE involved with the club.. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2008 10:32:32 GMT
to think of Dropping Fuller is madness
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2008 10:37:55 GMT
Nugent is better than Cresswell. Cresswell works hard, Nugent has the skill, at this level at least, to conjure something from nothing, which is crucial at a stage of the season where we appear to have been somewhat sussed by the opposition.
To drop Fuller is effectively to kiss goodbye to our attacking threat. The Hull home game was a prime example.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 9, 2008 10:42:41 GMT
The poblem wth Fuller is he is carrying the weight of the team on his shoulders sometimes on a few occasions yesterday he should have passed the ball but did not and lets not forget all good strikers are greedy thats the nature of the beast oh no thats a completely different matter.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 9, 2008 10:43:36 GMT
Agree with that, Rob. Dropping Fuller would be beyond lunacy, regardless of his annoying whining and selfishness. Good point by Squeekster too. He knows full well he's carrying the whole attacking thrust of the team fairly and squarely on his shoulders EVERY match. That's some burden. Nugent - pacey, skilful, creative, balanced, two-footed and a scorer of exquisite goals. Sound familiar?
He likes to play on the shoulder of the last defender and defenders are fearful of stepping up because they know once he is in, they won't catch him. Also very good at dropping deep to receive a ball to feet, laying it off and then spinning to receive a first time pass from a player who is inventive enough to supply.
How would I see Fuller and Nugent playing together? They would have to supply nappies to opposition defenders - because they would fill them! seriously that would be some strike force and one that I would be jealous of, if I was a jealous person.This Preston fan on here seemed to rather rate Nugent...  |
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bert
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Post by bert on Mar 9, 2008 10:54:40 GMT
fuller passes the ball to his team mates roughly once every four games. you can't put a price on that.  |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Mar 9, 2008 11:04:02 GMT
What a good idea that is, drop your best player and main goal threat. C'mon!!
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Mar 9, 2008 11:06:57 GMT
You've spelt "diao" wrong.
God he is SHIT!
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Post by stokeoptimist on Mar 9, 2008 11:17:47 GMT
Why should Fuller be untouchable he is one member of a team who in my opinion has been off the boil lately, possibly reading too much of his early press. Yes he is a talented forward when he has the ball at his feet running at goal, but at what cost, he needs to learn that it is not all about him.
He will probably be missing for a couple of games soon anyway and I think he will be missed less than Lawrence. If you want to appoint a new hero try looking at Cresswell who deserves a run at the front. His running with the ball at goal yesterday and his work off it were immpecable!
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Post by boothenendboy on Mar 9, 2008 11:19:36 GMT
dont drop fuller for fuck sake.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2008 11:22:44 GMT
Again, look at the Hull game. Without Fuller, we created pretty much nothing and had to rely exclusively on the long throw.
Fuller is a marked man these days, that's why he's less effective than he was. He's a temperamental player and opposition defences know they can rile him if they shackle and hack at him.
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Post by infullerwetrust on Mar 9, 2008 11:45:37 GMT
jf mum drop fuller..... get your tin hat son! the only goalthreat we have in terms of a forward, people slagging off fuller saying he doesn't pass? to who.... oh yeah fuckin sidibie
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Post by infullerwetrust on Mar 9, 2008 11:47:18 GMT
Try Cressie up front for once, 10 goals already from a wide position...knows where the onion bag is
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2008 12:07:03 GMT
optimist
should we drop Fuller I will become a pessimist
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Mar 9, 2008 12:21:50 GMT
Yes lets drop the only player in the team who can create a goal out of nothing.
Why don't we start Vince Pericard too, and Ant Pulis jnr as captain?
We'd fuck this league over anyday with those changes.
What a stupid post!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2008 12:31:26 GMT
insane drivellings of a lunatic ! -the headline post
drop your best player because he isnt getting the breaks
Id have posted a muppet show clip on the old MB
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Post by johnfarmersmum on Mar 9, 2008 20:49:46 GMT
Uk Stokey...Please advise of your last meaningful contribution rather than threats of Miss Piggy !
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Post by ukstoke1 on Mar 9, 2008 22:02:32 GMT
This is a very brave post... but I am in total agreement. Fuller has become lazy arrogant and selfish these last 5 games. I think he needs to be told that he is not bigger than the club... Take the blinkers off boys!
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 9, 2008 22:15:01 GMT
I don' t think people are blind to his faults; he's a petulant and frustrating player.
But he's also the most talented we've seen for decades. If he was partnered by someone who could hit a cow's arse with a banjo perhaps he'd take the pass option more often (mind you, that is only a perhaps)
But let's not forget that as recently as Scunthorpe (2nd half) and QPR (2nd half) he's been a 1-man wrecking crew.
And it's not as if we're swimming in alternatives, is it?
Parkin, Pericard and Sidibe are joke figures who carry the goal threat of Noel Edmonds, while Gallagher is persona non grata.
He does deserve criticism at times; but at the moment, I think the idea of seriously considering dropping him is lunacy.
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coll45
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Post by coll45 on Mar 9, 2008 22:48:50 GMT
remember mark chamberlin he once said when he makes his runs it takes lot out of him so he may look idle and slow to get back sometimes but hes saving his energy for the next one . i think fuller is a similar player so i wont moan when hes slow to get up or back i just cant wait for his next run .
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Mar 10, 2008 11:41:48 GMT
If Stoke have 2 obvious shortcomings, they lack pace and are a bit predictable.
Ricardo Fuller has pace, strength and skill in abundance, and has a knack of doing the unexpected. 14 goals says he is a good finisher too. Why drop him?
It wan't really his game on Sat. They got lots of men behind the ball, and the ref allowed Varga to keep pushing him over. He's better when we defend deep and break quickly, and he's got most of the opposition half to work in.
Erm, like tricky away fixtures. At Norwich and Watford, he'll virtually be up front on his own, with Mama racing about in front of the midfield 4. This suits him much better.
Fuller's due a goal. Let's see if we would still like to drop him after the next 2 matches.
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