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Post by GrandStokie on Mar 1, 2010 18:00:02 GMT
Squareball. You say give it a rest and yet i only responded to that prick stating that Ryan should have pulld out of the tackle and yet Ryan only misses the ball by one tenth of a second. Now if that aint classed as a 50/50 ball then i dont know what is, so yes it was relevant for me to text what i did. Squareball..............fookin oddball more like the way you came across just then. It doesn't matter though does it? All this fucking 1\10 second this, leg already bent that, foot off the ground blah blah blah. It was a poor tackle that resulted, unfortunately, in a lad getting a broken leg. There's no need to defend Shawcross as he didn't mean to injure anyone. Even Pulis has said it was a bad tackle. It's done with now - can we not move on and admit that things could have turned out better without having to look into every minute piece of detail in an attempt to gloss over the facts? Have you forgotten the ferocious claims made by Wenger? Until he admits that it wasn't a malicious tackle, which cleary it wasn't and we know he wont, then fans have the right to and must continue to defend the lad. |
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Post by serpico on Mar 1, 2010 18:07:56 GMT
Durham keeps saying shawcross should have pulled out of the tackle, but surely you could easily say "why didn't ramsey pull out" as well ? and Shawcross was actually closer to the ball than Ramsey, Durham basically wants to out law 50-50 tackles . I think we can all agree on one thing, Durhams dad should have pulled out  |
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Post by serpico on Mar 1, 2010 18:11:23 GMT
I've just re-watched the incident, and contrary to what the hysterical arsehole fan said earlier, the Arsehole players DO surround the ref whilst Ramsey is laying with a broken leg, Fabregas even goes over to the linesman to remonstrate, they were all more concerned with getting a player sent off than the well being of their team mate .
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Post by andyk on Mar 1, 2010 18:15:00 GMT
I think we can all agree on one thing, Durhams dad should have pulled out genius |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Mar 1, 2010 18:17:00 GMT
what the fuck do you keep putting links to this page for? |
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Post by french toast on Mar 1, 2010 18:19:34 GMT
fuck off ben you cunt, ban him again  |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 1, 2010 18:32:15 GMT
Dungham has, after all his posturing throughout the show that Ryan needs to be more controlled, has just said that Van Persie's assault on Sorenson last season was entirely understandable because he was frustrated.
He's not even a good wind up merchant, he's thicker than my lady's gravy.
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Mar 1, 2010 18:35:25 GMT
Can not believe what iam hearing.
Example so when Aldershot get a fa cup tie against Arsenal they need to think about Arsenal show them respect and pass them of the park. Do me a favour.
I hope Arsenal fail miserable and wish them the worst luck ever from now on.
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Post by lancer on Mar 1, 2010 18:36:01 GMT
Durham keeps saying shawcross should have pulled out of the tackle, but surely you could easily say "why didn't ramsey pull out" as well ? and Shawcross was actually closer to the ball than Ramsey, Durham basically wants to out law 50-50 tackles . I think we can all agree on one thing, Durhams dad should have pulled out Beat me to it, mate. What does the twat expect, goalies not going for the ball if he thinks the out field player is going to get it. Does he expect strikers to give up on 50 50 balls? The bloke it simple, and that is the truth. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 1, 2010 18:44:35 GMT
Just sent this text in. Whilst we are on the subject of suggesting that ryan shawcross should have pulled out of the challenge because he was not going to get the ball What you have failed to mention is that ryan whilst in midflow was impeded by bendtner and if this hadn't have happened would ryan have made the 10th of a second up?. Also after getting impeded does it then enter ryans head in a split second that he is not going to get the ball?. I feel this is a very important question to ask in what is an important matter. For fucks sake Tazi give it a rest. It was a shit mistimed tackle that broke a leg. There was no malice in the challenge but it was reckless. Shawcross's game is based on playing on the 'edge' which is why you'll find him grabbing, pulling and intimidating players to gain every possible advantage. I doubt the views of this board won't be as 'understanding' if we ever have the misfortune of seeing one of our players receive a broken leg. You'll all be foaming at the mouth and wishing that the offender gets hung, drawn and quartered live on Sky. " I doubt the views of this board won't be as 'understanding' if we ever have the misfortune of seeing one of our players receive a broken leg. " Don't be silly squareball - most of this board have seen a similar broken leg after a similar tackle on Rory Delap a few years back. Did we go ballistic like the gooners are? Did we fuck? Nor did our players try to get Elliott red carded and Pulis just said it was one of those things that happen in football. We behaved with a million times the restraint shown by Wenger and his Gooners. |
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Post by mistersausage on Mar 1, 2010 18:50:08 GMT
Durham is a prick who plays devils advocate to get people to respond to his banal comments by phoning in.
He's nothing more than a ginger media prostitute. No wonder his missus fucked off with his mate and nicked his telly ;D
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 1, 2010 19:00:03 GMT
Fuck Off Durham and bring on Stan.
Both a pair of pricks but at least Collymore speaks sense about football and doesn't just spin and exaggerate everybody elses views to try and discredit them.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Mar 1, 2010 19:03:36 GMT
The only way to cope with that garbage station is not to switch it on
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 1, 2010 19:03:55 GMT
Fuck Off Durham and bring on Stan. Both a pair of pricks but at least Collymore speaks sense about football and doesn't just spin and exaggerate everybody elses views to try and discredit them. Mark Saggers is usually pretty balanced as well ... I don't know if the producer will suggest that he's the one who should rip into Ryan mind.  |
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Post by theoldvic on Mar 1, 2010 19:10:19 GMT
cmon lads, if you had the hand god dealt him you'd be a little bitter yourselves, i mean....ginger fuckin hair and face furniture.ffs he only needs false teeth for the grand slam.
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Post by tazi on Mar 1, 2010 19:12:46 GMT
Durham keeps saying shawcross should have pulled out of the tackle, but surely you could easily say "why didn't ramsey pull out" as well ? and Shawcross was actually closer to the ball than Ramsey, Durham basically wants to out law 50-50 tackles . I think we can all agree on one thing, Durhams dad should have pulled out Pisser mate absolute pisser. |
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Post by tazi on Mar 1, 2010 19:24:47 GMT
That stoke supporter should have kept that cunt Durham on the ropes when he asked if he thought the referee was immediately 'but got sidetracked' going to show him a straight red to which Durham replied yes. At that point the caller should have pointed out that the referee never even awarded a foul and that from being all of 5 or 6 yards away.
Durham knew he escaped an allmighty uppercut coming up that would finish him off.
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 1, 2010 19:26:22 GMT
Whether or not Shawcross is blocking or attacking the ball, he's not showing his studs. That has to count in his defense. If he pulled out of that tackle and allowed Ramsey to run on...well, he would have let himself down and we would have slated him for it.
I can understand the frustration with Arsenal and the brute force they experience from the less technical teams but they have to adapt. It's not like they have no history of hardmen.
This is fodder for the Stoke haters. I just hope our method isn't affected by this Mickey Mouse bullshit the media are spitting.
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Post by Janet in ST5 on Mar 1, 2010 19:33:30 GMT
I've just re-watched the incident, and contrary to what the hysterical arsehole fan said earlier, the Arsehole players DO surround the ref whilst Ramsey is laying with a broken leg, Fabregas even goes over to the linesman to remonstrate, they were all more concerned with getting a player sent off than the well being of their team mate . And this is why I turned to the OFF button because if the fans won't question the action of their players, the manager certainly won't. Only sees it if it's against him. W@nker. Makes Neil Warnock look like Mother Teresa! |
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Post by starkiller on Mar 1, 2010 19:34:32 GMT
I find it laughable that people actually listen to talksport, except for a two second 'rest' whilst tuning to something else.
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Post by serpico on Mar 1, 2010 19:44:58 GMT
A lot of Arsenal fans seem to be under the delusion that Ramsey was in possession of the ball, one wonders how many of them even watched the game ???
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Post by tazi on Mar 1, 2010 19:56:51 GMT
A lot of Arsenal fans seem to be under the delusion that Ramsey was in possession of the ball, one wonders how many of them even watched the game ??? And not under the impression that Ramsey was flying in worse than Ryan too. |
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Post by mikeyb99 on Mar 1, 2010 20:02:05 GMT
Whether or not Shawcross is blocking or attacking the ball, he's not showing his studs. That has to count in his defense. If he pulled out of that tackle and allowed Ramsey to run on...well, he would have let himself down and we would have slated him for it. I can understand the frustration with Arsenal and the brute force they experience from the less technical teams but they have to adapt. It's not like they have no history of hardmen. This is fodder for the Stoke haters. I just hope our method isn't affected by this Mickey Mouse bullshit the media are spitting. You could be right there actually. I would imagine that the media magnifying glass will be placed over every Stoke tackle for the next 12 months and we could see referees being pressured into showing even more red cards for innocuous tackles. The cynic in me says that there will be plenty of opposition players simulating/exaggerating any tackle too in an attempt to get our lads sent off. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 1, 2010 21:00:41 GMT
Whether or not Shawcross is blocking or attacking the ball, he's not showing his studs. That has to count in his defense. If he pulled out of that tackle and allowed Ramsey to run on...well, he would have let himself down and we would have slated him for it. I can understand the frustration with Arsenal and the brute force they experience from the less technical teams but they have to adapt. It's not like they have no history of hardmen. This is fodder for the Stoke haters. I just hope our method isn't affected by this Mickey Mouse bullshit the media are spitting. You could be right there actually. I would imagine that the media magnifying glass will be placed over every Stoke tackle for the next 12 months and we could see referees being pressured into showing even more red cards for innocuous tackles. The cynic in me says that there will be plenty of opposition players simulating/exaggerating any tackle too in an attempt to get our lads sent off. Completely correct. Some people may recall our game away at Wigan last year. It was our first fixture following Arsene Wenger's 'cowards' rant and Shawcross challenged Heskey by the touchline, right in front of me. Not only was it a clean tackle, but it was also met with the most outrageous dive you have ever seen from one of the country's serial cheats. What was the referee's decision? He ran straight over and despite it being the first foul of the game, immediately issued a yellow card. |
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Post by slangking on Mar 1, 2010 21:04:58 GMT
I think Tony had better start training the lads in five vs eleven games after this fiasco.
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