|
|
Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 3, 2010 0:21:50 GMT
Looking at Beattie's attitude today along with Liam's spoilt schoolboy performance and Collins 'Blue Square' activities on the left makes you realise what an asset Higgy is to this club. I slated him for his pretend injury before he left but the man is pure class. Unfairly dropped, never complained, got his head down and has come back in to the team made a mockery of the decision to drop him and Captained it with pride today. I'd be happy with a few more with his (to use the rightly banned phrase) DNA.
|
|
|
|
Post by PickSCFC on Jan 3, 2010 0:23:00 GMT
totally agree
|
|
|
|
Post by greyman on Jan 3, 2010 0:25:32 GMT
Yes. More centre backs who know where to stand to get in the way before launching it aimlessly at the centre circle. A valuable element in any back 8.
|
|
|
|
Post by Trouserdog on Jan 3, 2010 0:26:29 GMT
Higgy should never have been dropped, and the way he's responded since getting his chance again should hopefully cement his place in the team for the rest of the season.
Those who think he's inferior to the awful Collins really do need to ask themselves whether they understand the game they're actually watching.
|
|
|
|
Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 3, 2010 0:26:49 GMT
Yes. More centre backs who know where to stand to get in the way before launching it aimlessly at the centre circle. A valuable element in any back 8. Quite. But he's bloody good at it.  |
|
|
|
Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 3, 2010 0:29:16 GMT
I'd play him alongside Ryan on Tuesday (as captain) if it wasn't for the fact that Collins is looking so poor at the moment.
|
|
|
|
Post by greyman on Jan 3, 2010 0:29:36 GMT
Better than Collins. Hardly a ringing endorsement. We don't need any more Danny Higginbothams. There is nothing much wrong with anybody at the back. |
|
|
|
Post by stokelad84 on Jan 3, 2010 0:29:44 GMT
Be careful momo, whydelilah will be on tomorrow saying you have a vendetta against Collins |
|
|
|
Post by smithy27 on Jan 3, 2010 0:34:05 GMT
Higgy good asset for club not sure why we bought Collins
|
|
|
|
Post by sirpineapple89 on Jan 3, 2010 0:35:25 GMT
At a time where Beattie and Lawrence are squabbling like a pair of dickbones and seemingly disturbing the team spirit and ethic, Higgy shows that there are players that are still bothered about Stoke.
Like you, Sheikh, I thought he showed a lot of vaginary before he went to Sunderland but he's won most, if not all (I should think) of the fans back over.
|
|
|
|
Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 3, 2010 0:35:35 GMT
Better than Collins. Hardly a ringing endorsement. We don't need any more Danny Higginbothams. There is nothing much wrong with anybody at the back. I was talking more about attitude than ability to be honest but on ability and form I'd have him above two, (light years ahead of one) of this seasons regular back four. |
|
|
|
Post by stokesaint1 on Jan 3, 2010 0:36:30 GMT
Sheik, a fair assessment of Beattie, Lawrence and Collins performances and Higgy does have the right attitude (now) but surely if we are to progress in this league, then we need better quality than Higgy. That said, with what we currently have, I'd still play him in front of Collins without any doubt whatsoever.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 0:48:13 GMT
perhaps the big welly up field might help us score
|
|
|
|
Post by scfcmacca on Jan 3, 2010 0:57:16 GMT
i rember the day he went sunderland in me uncles car on the radio and we were both disapointed he went and didnt want him back when he came back but gotta say ehs won me back over id play him left back on tuesday with huth and ryan in the centre and wilko on the right put whean and whitehead in the middle with etherington and tuncay one the flanks then a mama fuller up front good team imo.
|
|
|
|
Post by icelandpotter on Jan 3, 2010 1:01:29 GMT
Higgy good asset for club not sure why we bought Collins I can't sum it up any better than that tbh. A blind man on a galloping horse can surely tell that it should be: Wilko Shawcross Abdy Higgy |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 1:06:33 GMT
Be careful momo, whydelilah will be on tomorrow saying you have a vendetta against Collins I'm here already....my SISCOR (Somebody-Is-Slagging-Collins-Off-Radar) went off  |
|
|
|
Post by spitthedog on Jan 3, 2010 1:09:41 GMT
Higgy good asset for club not sure why we bought Collins I can't sum it up any better than that tbh. A blind man on a galloping horse can surely tell that it should be: Wilko Shawcross Abdy Higgy I must be partially sighted because i would have Huth before Abdy. For me Abdy is out of form, not fit, and has become a weak link. |
|
|
|
Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 3, 2010 7:34:33 GMT
As a centre back Higgy is still a decent player but, personally, I think at left back his distribution stops him being good enough to start games. I accept that Collins isn't the defender Higgy is although his distribution is usually much better.
All this confirms what many (most?) of us already knew - which is that we do need a new "proper" left back as a matter of urgency.
Hopefully by the end of January we will have Wilko and AN other competing for the right back spot, Ryan, Higgy and Huth competing for cb and AN other and Higgy and Collins competing for the left back berth.
I've left out Abdy because, at the moment, I think he needs a good long rest. I have no idea if he will rediscover his form after that rest but, in my opinion, he isn't one of our best three centre backs on current form.
|
|
|
|
Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 3, 2010 9:27:37 GMT
Pulis signed Collins & Huth as he doesn't rate Higginbottom or Wilkinson going forward. So he signs two central defenders to play at full back! Collins is plain old poor and Huth is a liability as he can't defend without grabbing hold of someone's shirt or pushing and shoving. Panic buys from Pulis and both overrated. He should stick with Higginbottom, Shawcross, Wilkinson & another across the back four.
|
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Jan 3, 2010 10:24:17 GMT
'proper' left back?
yes please
in the meantime please play Higgy
|
|
|
|
Post by itsmorethanagame on Jan 3, 2010 10:45:12 GMT
Agree with all the praise for Higgy. Showing what a true professional he really is. The prem is a squad game and everyone has a significant role to play if their attitude is right.
I would also like to extend this love in to Wilko and Tuncay. When Wilko was left out his head never dropped and he did exactly what was needed and grabbed his opportunity with both hands in the next start he had. This is what having competition is all about and is how it should be.
Before Tuncay got his recent run I was saying on here that he should stop sulking and follow Wilko's lead. Well I'm glad to say that he HAS done this and has run his bollocks off in the games he has played. Well done Tunc.
The likes of Beattie, Kitson, Lawrence and Whelan would do well to take note. None of them should be getting ideas above their station as Stoke City is about as good a club as they can expect themselves to be at. You can be sure that Pulis won't stand for it and before you know it, they could all find themselves back in the championship. They all have ability but need to start putting a bit of pride into their performances and look like they actually want to wear the shirt.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mozzaa on Jan 3, 2010 11:37:28 GMT
Yes he may 'hoof it'...but when he does how often does that usually get us in attacking positions or release pressure on our defence so they can sort themselves out? 9 times out of 10 in my book; what does Danny Collins do? puts pressure on our defence because he's about as useful as a pair glasses in which you can't see still...he's awful.
|
|
|
|
Post by Olgrligm on Jan 3, 2010 11:44:50 GMT
Yes he may 'hoof it'...but when he does how often does that usually get us in attacking positions or release pressure on our defence so they can sort themselves out? 9 times out of 10 in my book; what does Danny Collins do? puts pressure on our defence because he's about as useful as a pair glasses in which you can't see still...he's awful. All very true. |
|
|
|
Post by onebollockbarry on Jan 3, 2010 11:46:51 GMT
9 times out of 10 pisser.... we're always back under pressure as defence just clears it, it's embarrassing.
It's no coincidence since Higgy has been dropped Ethers has come in to his own and why? Because Collins actually attempts to make a pass.
We dont need no god awful footballers like Higgy, we need a decent quality left back and right back.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mozzaa on Jan 3, 2010 11:49:55 GMT
PP I'm not saying Higgy is the answer to our prayers but he's best thing we have at left back and we do need a proper left back in the transfer window but he's a much better player than Collins. Collins actually attempts to make a pass...but who does it usually go to? o yes the opposition  |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 11:53:26 GMT
I think yesterday was well and truly the final nail in the "Collins' distribution is better" coffin.
|
|
|
|
Post by Cyprusdelilah on Jan 3, 2010 11:58:10 GMT
Nowt against Higgy great defender, but everytime he gets the ball hoof and back it comes again. Just not good enough passing wise.
If he was a bit more comfortable on the ball, I think he could of been up there with the likes Carragher.
|
|
|
|
Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 3, 2010 12:01:48 GMT
Danny Higginbotham is a proper defender whether at left back or centre back. He is always willing to put his body on the line to prevent a goal and this bullshit about him hoofing it is complete bollocks. I would much rather him hit a 50 yard diagonal ball to Beattie (or whoever) to flick on to give us good possession in the opponents half over a limp wristed pass that struggles to reach a player in our own half and puts us on the back foot (a la Collins.)
This half arsed justification of playing Collins because he may pass it short a bit more to Ethers is no justification at all when you consider the amount of utter shite goals we have conceded due to his involvement.
If Abdy is struggling for Tuesday I would have a back four of
Wilko Huth Ryan Higgy
or if Abdy is fit I would push Higgy to left back with TP left to decide who to play at RB (I'd go with Wilko personally.)
The decision to restore Higgy in recent games and to give him the armband yesterday is proof enough that TP has realised he has dropped a bit of a bollock where Higgy is concerned and is now showing him and us the faith he has in our dependable stopper.
(Danny if you're reading this 10% will do nicely. ;D)
|
|
|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 3, 2010 12:02:23 GMT
No disrespect Cyprus, but Carragher is almost a carbon copy of Higgy. In fact, I would say Higgy is a better footballer.
Carragher is a wank player but a bloody good defender. He looks even more uncomfortable at full-back than Huth does and that is going some.
|
|
|
|
Post by stokiemoppheadd on Jan 3, 2010 12:10:17 GMT
i was sad when higgy went to sunderland because i had a thought he wouldnt be there 1st choice left back so he would be wasted. Then he came back and was doing the same brilliant job he did before he went to sunderland and he was and always was a fan favourite. Then MR . Pulis decided drop him (another decision which was none needed) but thankfully he's come back  Well done higgy |
|
