|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 27, 2008 18:05:30 GMT
To say I am amazed by some of the comments I have read about Simmo would be something of an understatement, but just because Pulis is actively chasing another keeper, I really don't think that us Stokies should be seemingly so harsh on our existing no 1.
Simmo is an excellent goalkeeper, rarely if ever lets us down, and certainly saves us more points than he costs us.
I have just read one poster commenting that Shawcross could do with a talker like Sean Lewis St Hamilton behind him, to improve his obviously temporary blip in form, insinuating that he doesn't get his from Simmo.
That is just ludicrous.
Simmo may not be at his brilliant best right now, but I wouldn't swap him for anyone else in this league.
Our defensive frailties have much more to do with the fact that Cort is a fanny who cannot win a defensive header under any sort of challenge, and who, as a centre half, shies away from physical combat. He is great in the opponents area, but pretty shocking in our own, as evidence again by their first goal last night.
Simmo is also not helped by the fact that we have two full-backs who seemingly let their opponents cross the ball at will without any sort of pressure. The same full backs, seem to also abandon any back post responsibility that they may have (see Pugh AGAIN last night) and ultimately we look quite shaky at the back, especially from set pieces.
I don't get it myself, and above are some of my own views as to why we are so leaky at the back right now. Simmo is the least of our worries in my opinion.
Cort and Pugh...now they are two to worry about! What I wouldn't give to see Higgy back in our side for the run-in!
|
|
|
|
Post by slangking on Feb 27, 2008 18:11:44 GMT
Cort and Pugh...now they are two to worry about! What I wouldn't give to see Higgy back in our side for the run-in!
Curious, because I can't quite remember us being top when Higginarsehole was in the side, nor did he ever score goals other than from the penalty spot, unlike Cort.
|
|
|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 27, 2008 18:15:35 GMT
Higgy is a class above Cort mate, regardless of the circumstances of his departure.
He also got his share of headed goals last season, and would undoubtedly have had more in our current team.
I did point to the fact that Cort is great in their box, but not so good in our own. There are countless instances to back this up as well for those who are prepared to SEE!
|
|
|
|
Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Feb 27, 2008 18:17:53 GMT
I agree about Simmo, one of the best keepers at Championship level. Disagree about Cort though, a phenomenal header of a ball in both boxes. Unfortunately his positional play isn't always great and he does lack some strength in the tackle.
|
|
|
|
Post by slangking on Feb 27, 2008 18:27:20 GMT
Please don't compare Higginarseholes's goal-scoring contribution to Cort's you just make yourself look like a simpleton, Higginarsehole scored 7 including numerous penalties ALL season, Cort has 7 with no penalties in 22 starts, you'd have to say that his aeriel threat in the box is one of the major reasons why we are top of the league, Higginbotham didn't have a clue how to score goals.
|
|
|
|
Post by Olgrligm on Feb 27, 2008 18:33:13 GMT
Yes, btu I also remember a record number of clean sheets last season with Higginbotham, however much of an arse he made of himself. Right now, we need him more than Cort.
|
|
|
|
Post by slangking on Feb 27, 2008 18:40:20 GMT
I'd love to see him back as well, preferably with his head trapped under the wheels of the team bus.
|
|
|
|
Post by Olgrligm on Feb 27, 2008 18:44:42 GMT
Wouldn't that hinder his mobility?
|
|
|
|
Post by tazi on Feb 27, 2008 18:46:04 GMT
HOW MANY TIMES WHEN THE BALL IS KNOCKED DOWN INSIDE OUR OWN AREA HAS EITHER SHAWCROSS OR CORT GOT A BOOT ON IT FIRST?.
Sorry for shouting but it's pissin me right off and if it is not sorted soon then it is going to cost us a play-off spot let alone an automatic place.
I dont entirely blame Simmo but we need a leader in the heart of our defence.
Not only is Higgi a leader but he's class at this level and if we had him still in the heart of our defence then our goal difference would be around +25 or more. Cort in my opinion is wank.
|
|
|
|
Post by robin1302 on Feb 27, 2008 18:55:07 GMT
Simmo needs to take command of his 6 yards box which at the moment he is not doing! Last night he should of come and got that ball but he didnt, headed across the face of goal tapped in from on the line, and thats how most of the goals we've conceded recently have been!
|
|
|
|
Post by EccyStokie on Feb 27, 2008 18:55:17 GMT
No... you have too stop
|
|
|
|
Post by scfclifer on Feb 27, 2008 19:01:04 GMT
simmo is ace stoppin shots wank on crosses end of
|
|
|
|
Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on Feb 27, 2008 19:02:13 GMT
^^^
|
|
|
|
Post by razzor on Feb 27, 2008 19:02:42 GMT
I would say Simmo is the least confident player in the starting eleven for Stoke City! And it does show...His kicking was poor last night...worst i've seen for a long time! Decision making is mediocre can be poor, but his reaction and shot stoppin is brilliant!! He has saved us more points than cost us...I agree! A good servant to the football club so far!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by meirite on Feb 27, 2008 20:39:29 GMT
got to agree raz about simmo it seems he's got no confidence in his cbs and they have none in him it just boils down to a lack of communication between them all ITS GOOD TO TALK
|
|
|
|
Post by Davef on Feb 27, 2008 21:43:25 GMT
Maybe the chickens are coming home to roost with regards to the goalkeeping coach situation?
|
|
|
|
Post by boothenendboy on Feb 27, 2008 21:49:00 GMT
Maybe the chickens are coming home to roost with regards to the goalkeeping coach situation? maybe the chickens are the ones who give simmo his egg in the nest? |
|
|
|
Post by Butters on Feb 27, 2008 21:50:20 GMT
You say Higginbotham didn't score as many as Cort but he didnt have Delaps throws in the box did he?
|
|
moortownpotter
Youth Player
Hope is a gun, that you load everyday. As the chamber is spun, you bite down on the steel and pray.
Posts: 365
|
Post by moortownpotter on Feb 27, 2008 22:33:41 GMT
Simmo is a great shot stopper and that's it!
Can't kick, can't talk, can't throw quickly, can't kick rom the right side of the 6 yard box, can't claim crosses in his 6 yard box.
Definitely a weak link in our side. He needs competition if nowt else!
|
|
|
|
Post by TheBra1n on Feb 27, 2008 22:50:25 GMT
so you call for the "witch hunt" of simmo to be halted by starting one on leon cort priceless
|
|
|
|
Post by leeklad on Feb 27, 2008 23:12:31 GMT
higgy was class but he soon fucked off to what he thought was upper class!!!greedy jug lug manc.At least cort wants to be here,so does simmo!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 28, 2008 9:09:14 GMT
I am not starting a witch hunt on Cort, just making a point that for a big lad, he isn't particularly dominant in the air, and rarely wins a challenge under physical pressure.
Cort has done ok for us, and has many very good attributes (not least his goals) but our inability to defend has less to do with Simmo and his slight dip in form, and more to do with others in our team who seemingly don't do their jobs properly.
One final point re Simmo - His kicking has never been his strongest attribute. It is ok, but not great! He is not at his brilliant best, but I still wouldn't swap him!
|
|
|
|
Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 28, 2008 9:25:36 GMT
Surely a mamanger is right to replace ANY player where he thinks he can find another player who can do a better job? Simo is a decent keeper with one or two weaknesses - if TP reckons he can lay his hands on a better one then that's fine by me.
|
|
|
|
Post by knowles on Feb 28, 2008 9:32:42 GMT
Well said Dave. We need to sort out the GK coach situation. From what I can gather Andy Quy is only part-time and Hoult (when he was here) can't move because of athritis so is hardly going to give Simmo plenty of testing!
What chance Ed de Goey returning on the training field? (he did it at QPR....)
|
|
|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 28, 2008 9:32:52 GMT
It is fine by me also Fornside, but just because the manager seems to be looking for another decent keeper, doesn't justify us supporters jumping on the bandwaggon to knock Simmo.
I wouldn't replace Simmo with too many other keepers to be honest, but there is nothing wrong with competition. Arguably Simmo's best spell of form for Stoke came when he was being driven and challenged by competition from Super Ed!
Simmo is not at his best, but he is far from being the weak link that many seem to be describing him as.
|
|
|
|
Post by jezzascfc on Feb 28, 2008 9:37:56 GMT
We need a leader at the back, whether that is a keeper or a centre half. All of them are too quiet and we need a dominant figure to organise them, take responsibility and bollock the others if necessary.
Higgy was very good at it, but we have missed such a presence since his departure.
|
|
|
|
Post by RAF on Feb 28, 2008 9:56:35 GMT
As has been said many times, a keeper is only as good as his defence.
If a keeper doesn't have confidence in his back four it can affect his performances, and we most definitely could do with someone with an old head on their shoulders barking the orders and keeping the young lads in line a la Taggart.
For me Griffin doesn't do this as captain.
H
|
|
|
|
Post by lancer on Feb 28, 2008 10:14:33 GMT
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Simmo is a very good goalie who would improve his game by bossing his box. He sems loathe to shout at players, prefering to watch and rely on them against crosses. Watching him being interviewed show what a quiet type he is, but unfortunately he takes that onto the field with him
He's still the top goalie oin this division, but would be untouchable if he controlled the box.
As said above, yes he's lost us points by his performances, but he's gained us more.
Please, Simmo, just SHOUT and push more in the box.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2008 10:16:05 GMT
Simmo doesn't command his box as well as he should at times admittedly, but keepers that command their box and are great shot stoppers are like rocking horse shit.
Take the England goalkeeping position for example, they can't chose a commanding keeper from the so-called cream of English football.
He has his faults, and he's not at his best at the moment but IMO there aren't many better in this league..........
|
|
|
|
Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 28, 2008 10:19:05 GMT
There's no doubt that Simmo is a fine keeper, but all the best sides evolve and strive to replace even their best payers with better ones. Sometimes along the way unpopular decisions have to be made and like previous posters have said, if there is BETTER available then the club (or it's fans) shouldn't let sentiment stand in the way.
|
|
