Rory throws

[kevkj]

I noticed again against brum we leave abdy and Huth back for the throw.
Surely we would be better off flodding the box with our taller players.
Players like ethers and whitehead and wilko should be covering.
Seems very strange to me and quite obvious.

[SCFC]

I know what your saying, maybe not both but sending one of them up would make sense.

What I can't understand about Rory's throws is why nobody seems to attack them. Everyone seems to stand and wait in the box the majority of the time and hope for a flick on from the near post, running across the path of the ball would be much better and makes you more difficult to mark by a defender.

Thoughts?

[markscfc72]

i know yeah i have always thought it might be better a few of them sort of hover around the pen spot or a few yards further away and make a run as rory runs up, or you could also have someone stood in line with the 6 yard box line but stood on byline to head it back across goal, there is certainly more scope for more variety rather than just throwing it in and hoping

[ColonelMustard]

Rarely any movement at all, never mind anyone attacking the back post like they used to. I like the one to a midfielder in the centre too. Would keep a few bodies out of the box if used more regularly. Anyway I think the demise of the long throw is giving us more options in terms of selection though tbh.

[SCFC]

exactly, people say it's as good as a corner but the movement in the box is nothing like a corner. It would be much more effective because as it stands the defender can get goalside of the attack with both eyes on the player and where the ball is coming from (rory) so his job is made much easier.

The second you make a defender move his head to see both the player he is marking and the ball your create space and when an attacker only has to watch the ball he can then exploit that space.

Football comes down to movement, just look at arsenal, fantastic movement, fantastic football team.

[sammychung]

We just need to stop doing them, end of!

[fan4life]

Dec 30, 2009 11:20:06 GMT @sammychung said:

We just need to stop doing them, end of!

[andyr]

Was it the Fulham away game that they broke away from our throw in into the box and scored, so maybe thats why they leave defenders back

[eriksson74]

SCFC, Spot on the movement is key to it being effective. Its quite bizzare why we have no one making a run on a defender. The Shawcross header against Boro last season was all about movement.

[fentonstokie1]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Rory's throws, the problem is our lads are just not attacking the ball with enough conviction.

[smithy27]

for whatever reason they havent worked this season like they did last season so maybe time to try something different

[Huddysleftfoot]

Dec 30, 2009 13:51:47 GMT fentonstokie1 said:

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Rory's throws, the problem is our lads are just not attacking the ball with enough conviction.

Spot on, well said.

[forders]

i thought we put more presure on with the throws against brum, as it created quite a few chances

[GRUMPY 1]

perhaps we should have Sidibe up for them?

[forders]

ye as all sidibe can do is head it, he cant score with his feet to save his life

[fentonstokie1]

Dec 30, 2009 18:24:57 GMT GRUMPY 1 said:

perhaps we should have Sidibe up for them?

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[keithy george]

just dont work anymore ???

[Olgrligm]

I've been saying this for a few weeks now. There's no point being able to take the equivalent of a corner from two 30 yard long stretches of touchline if you're not going to actually take advantage of it. The problems, as mentioned above, are pretty clear:

1) No movement in the box.

2) Only 4 players in the box with the two tallest players on the pitch staying back.

I don't see why Whitehead and Wilkinson couldn't stay back instead of Huth and Faye. Faye has scored a number of headers off set-pieces for us and Huth is a massive presence in the box, so it's perfectly logical. However, having 4 players in the box standing completely still and surrounded by 8 opposition players is doomed to fail, it's just bloody obvious. Get our tall players in there and attack the bloody things!

Another reason for its effectiveness waning is that teams just don't put the ball out for a throw with Rory in the side anymore. We never scored from every throw-in, despite the purple patch last season, so obviously fewer throws means fewer goals. Early last year Rory would have several attempts and was almost like a spin bowler, using different variations to try and draw the goalkeeper or certain defenders. That's just not an option anymore.

[melbournepotter]

I don't think that Rory is getting the same power into throws this season. There seems to be more height/loop to them this year while last year they seemed flatter and faster. This meant that that last year any deflection was more likely to end up in the back of the net, if the throw was aimed at the goal.

[fentonstokie1]

Dec 30, 2009 18:24:57 GMT GRUMPY 1 said:

perhaps we should have Sidibe up for them?

Yes because he's deadly in front of goal.

[Caddick988]

You just have to look at Shawcross's goal last season against 'boro, he comes from fucking no where to glace the ball in across goal. That kind of movement like many have said is non-exsistent now.

DH

[fentonstokie1]

Dec 31, 2009 11:43:28 GMT Caddick988 said:

You just have to look at Shawcross's goal last season against 'boro, he comes from fucking no where to glace the ball in across goal. That kind of movement like many have said is non-exsistent now.

DH

So you agree then, it's our bunch of pussies who just ain't cutting the mustard.

[Caddick988]

To a degree yes. I mean I'm sure there's more behind it than just making space for yourself in the box etc. But you just have to look how many goals we've scored from it this season.

DH.

[nicholasjalcock]

Dec 31, 2009 2:57:35 GMT melbournepotter said:

I don't think that Rory is getting the same power into throws this season. There seems to be more height/loop to them this year while last year they seemed flatter and faster. This meant that that last year any deflection was more likely to end up in the back of the net, if the throw was aimed at the goal.

Yes, I think there is a lot to this. The difference between a corner and one of Rory's flatter throws is that the latter is much more difficult to defend against. The higher, more loopy corners give defenders more time to judge flight and movement.

[fentonstokie1]

Dec 31, 2009 14:30:09 GMT nicholasjalcock said:

Dec 31, 2009 2:57:35 GMT melbournepotter said:

I don't think that Rory is getting the same power into throws this season. There seems to be more height/loop to them this year while last year they seemed flatter and faster. This meant that that last year any deflection was more likely to end up in the back of the net, if the throw was aimed at the goal.

Yes, I think there is a lot to this. The difference between a corner and one of Rory's flatter throws is that the latter is much more difficult to defend against. The higher, more loopy corners give defenders more time to judge flight and movement.

Yes but the higher loopy throws also give our lads more time to manoeuvre. The throws are varied on purpose and our lads have the advantage as they must know what type of throw is coming surely. Like I've said before, don't blame Rory for our attacker's inadequasies.

[GRUMPY 1]

....in the towel