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Post by mamathestriker on Dec 27, 2009 11:31:39 GMT
A manager who got us promoted, kept us up against all the odds, improved the playing squad and has a great relationship with the chairman?
It's what some clubs can only dream about.
My mate supports Sheffield Wednesday and he thinks I'm bonkers when I say our supporters generally wouldn't be disappointed if TP left tomorrow morning.
Why is there a lack of trust from so many?
If we win tomorrow it'll be King Tony again!
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Post by stokemark on Dec 27, 2009 11:34:40 GMT
I do think that the vast majority are behind TP - All managers have their critics and they are usually the most vociferous when things arent going exactly to plan
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Post by potter57 on Dec 27, 2009 11:36:14 GMT
Here's a few reasons:
1. Think how many points Collins has cost us this season and the fact that he is undroppable
2. Collins a centre Half playing at Left back
3. Whitehead playing Right Midfield
4. Mama playing ahead of Ric
5. Diao - 1 good game 5 terrible performances
6. Huth a good centtre half playing ahead of wilko at right back for many games
the list goes on and on! I still get behind the team every game but Pulis needs to sort it fast to keep the crowd onside. Stoke need the crowd fully behind the team and Manager!
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Post by jonnynico on Dec 27, 2009 12:18:16 GMT
do you realy need to ask that, take those glasses off and have a look.
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Post by march4 on Dec 27, 2009 12:20:36 GMT
Only a tiny, tiny minority don't support TP.
Unfortunately they are the ones who have most to say for themselves.
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Dec 27, 2009 13:27:10 GMT
Only a tiny, tiny minority don't support TP. Unfortunately they are the ones who have most to say for themselves. And don't forget they've all had more experience than TP.  them games consoles are soooooooooooo realistic you know  some of them have us in europe already  |
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 27, 2009 13:41:17 GMT
Cos they are pricks! They put money on us goign down and were gutted that he kept us up.
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 27, 2009 13:43:34 GMT
Because he's a fucking idiot at times. OS. |
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Post by march4 on Dec 27, 2009 13:45:32 GMT
Because he's a fucking idiot at times. OS. Didn't you go on the Bosklump love fest in Belgium? |
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Post by fan4life on Dec 27, 2009 13:45:41 GMT
Here's a few reasons: 1. Think how many points Collins has cost us this season and the fact that he is undroppable 2. Collins a centre Half playing at Left back 3. Whitehead playing Right Midfield 4. Mama playing ahead of Ric 5. Diao - 1 good game 5 terrible performances 6. Huth a good centtre half playing ahead of wilko at right back for many games the list goes on and on! I still get behind the team every game but Pulis needs to sort it fast to keep the crowd onside. Stoke need the crowd fully behind the team and Manager! Delap on the right wing ??? |
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Post by RICH68 on Dec 27, 2009 13:46:38 GMT
I do trust TP.
Just think there`s too much influence from the Thai lady-boy
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Post by stokecity1986 on Dec 27, 2009 13:48:09 GMT
I totally trust TP  no doubts with him at all |
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Post by barndoorbanjo on Dec 27, 2009 13:49:47 GMT
The support does trust TP but not all of it.
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 27, 2009 13:50:43 GMT
Yes, it was fun visiting another idiot. OS. |
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Post by march4 on Dec 27, 2009 13:51:18 GMT
Yes, it was fun visiting another idiot. OS. ;D |
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Post by fromafar07 on Dec 27, 2009 13:56:15 GMT
the old "obvious" questions some people ask on here !!
ok i will indulge !! this is professional football (or any money driven sprt really), a "what have you done for me lately" business. and that pretty much answers any and all questions !! getting from the Championship to the Premier league was in the past, last season's finish in 12th was well, last season ! the money spent in the off season sprinkled with a few decent results at the beginning of this season has raised expectations (and so they should imo) so the run of mediocre (to put it mildy at times) play and bad results over the last 8-9 games has given the red and white faithful lots ot moan about !
i do have to add that i do not think it is any different than any other team !! you think Hull, Liverpool, Everton, Portsmouth, West Ham, etc etc fans are not moaning about their teaam/manager ??
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Post by boweryboy on Dec 27, 2009 13:58:26 GMT
Correct me if i am wrong but isn't this the same manager who thought Pericard was a good player,still thinks we can't do without Sidibe,still plays players out of position even though he has wasted,sorry spent millions.........now ask yourself that question again........
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Post by onebollockbarry on Dec 27, 2009 13:58:42 GMT
Cos they are pricks! They put money on us goign down and were gutted that he kept us up. You really have the lowest intelligence of anyone on this forum, knuckle draggers for you ay! |
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Post by onebollockbarry on Dec 27, 2009 14:07:35 GMT
1. He plays Mamma
2. He plays Whitehead
3. He plays Delap
4. He plays Diao
5. He plays all of the above in wrong positions
6. He leaves the better players on the bench
7. He is far to defensive and much prefers to keep a clean sheet than scores
8. He is a tactical dinosaur
9. He puts his own ego before the club and doesn't careless about Stoke
10. He usually plays 4 centre backs
11. He will buy more defensive work horses that bring no benefit in Jan
12. He has his favourites who play no matter how shit
13. He doesn't know how take this club any further
14. He dresses like a chav which is embarrassing
15. He has so many fans looking throw those rose tinted specs, he could bring his son back and all the happy clappers would be praising such a move
16. Although he got us up the simple fact is he isn't very good
Then again non of the above matters because the cringeworthy amount who defend even the most stupid of decisions will always back him and these are the ones who stop the club progressing, the ones who still think we're in the fizzy pop league.
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Post by actongatestokie on Dec 27, 2009 14:17:23 GMT
Its got absolutely nothing to do with trust.
There is a section of our support that don't like him, never have liked him, never will like him and will never accept him.
All that has happened over the last few years is that those that fall into the category above, have simply been moved aside as the team has moved onwards and upwards. There has been very little scope for their arguments and as such, the silence has been deafening.
A few of those supporters have come to the fore with crocodile support statements, and suchlike, but those will soon be exchanged for vile abuse when the results really start to turn again. What we are seeing now is the very start of it.
This year was always going to be the hardest of them all. I trust those with something more than a Wrights meat and tater between their ears knew this from the start, and have cut their expectation cloth to suit.
I trust the manager to survive once more and keep this club in the Premier League. Sadly, by the end of the season, I may be in the minority.
Ultimately though, I hope beyond hope that those that want him out will be very, very careful of what they wish for. I'll give you a clue. Coatsey loves his caretakers. The caretaker is often found from within.
Fancy Peter Reid?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2009 14:27:06 GMT
Its got absolutely nothing to do with trust. There is a section of our support that don't like him, never have liked him, never will like him and will never accept him. All that has happened over the last few years is that those that fall into the category above, have simply been moved aside as the team has moved onwards and upwards. There has been very little scope for their arguments and as such, the silence has been deafening. A few of those supporters have come to the fore with crocodile support statements, and suchlike, but those will soon be exchanged for vile abuse when the results really start to turn again. What we are seeing now is the very start of it. This year was always going to be the hardest of them all. I trust those with something more than a Wrights meat and tater between their ears knew this from the start, and have cut their expectation cloth to suit. I trust the manager to survive once more and keep this club in the Premier League. Sadly, by the end of the season, I may be in the minority. Ultimately though, I hope beyond hope that those that want him out will be very, very careful of what they wish for. I'll give you a clue. Coatsey loves his caretakers. The caretaker is often found from within. Fancy Peter Reid? Absolutely spot on. Have some karma. |
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Post by tony harrison on Dec 27, 2009 14:34:00 GMT
Here's a few reasons: 1. Think how many points Collins has cost us this season and the fact that he is undroppable 2. Collins a centre Half playing at Left back 3. Whitehead playing Right Midfield 4. Mama playing ahead of Ric 5. Diao - 1 good game 5 terrible performances 6. Huth a good centtre half playing ahead of wilko at right back for many games the list goes on and on! I still get behind the team every game but Pulis needs to sort it fast to keep the crowd onside. Stoke need the crowd fully behind the team and Manager! Difficult to argue against those points. HE HASN'T STRENGTHENED THE TEAM WITH COLLINS, MAMMA, WHITEHEAD AND DIAO!!!!!!! |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 27, 2009 14:34:38 GMT
There are two main groups of anti-pulis posters on here.
1, The loud and thick who have started coming in the premiership and simply do not understand how hard the game is
2, The people who want to see open attacking play and have a belief - naive in my view that Stoke can change their style overnight and compete in this league it takes years.
Of course Pulis is stubborn and frustrating at times but he has worked wonders and in my view will keep us up this season and that is success
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Dec 27, 2009 14:43:06 GMT
Its got absolutely nothing to do with trust. There is a section of our support that don't like him, never have liked him, never will like him and will never accept him. All that has happened over the last few years is that those that fall into the category above, have simply been moved aside as the team has moved onwards and upwards. There has been very little scope for their arguments and as such, the silence has been deafening. A few of those supporters have come to the fore with crocodile support statements, and suchlike, but those will soon be exchanged for vile abuse when the results really start to turn again. What we are seeing now is the very start of it. This year was always going to be the hardest of them all. I trust those with something more than a Wrights meat and tater between their ears knew this from the start, and have cut their expectation cloth to suit. I trust the manager to survive once more and keep this club in the Premier League. Sadly, by the end of the season, I may be in the minority. Ultimately though, I hope beyond hope that those that want him out will be very, very careful of what they wish for. I'll give you a clue. Coatsey loves his caretakers. The caretaker is often found from within. Fancy Peter Reid? Now why would you think I'd fancy him?   |
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Dec 27, 2009 16:55:56 GMT
goarn stoke, we can work it out
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Post by jarhead on Dec 27, 2009 16:58:02 GMT
Here's a few reasons: 1. Think how many points Collins has cost us this season and the fact that he is undroppable 2. Collins a centre Half playing at Left back 3. Whitehead playing Right Midfield 4. Mama playing ahead of Ric 5. Diao - 1 good game 5 terrible performances 6. Huth a good centtre half playing ahead of wilko at right back for many games the list goes on and on! I still get behind the team every game but Pulis needs to sort it fast to keep the crowd onside. Stoke need the crowd fully behind the team and Manager! Well said, the list really could go on and i will never trust him as far as i could throw him and thats far trust me!!! |
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Post by jarhead on Dec 27, 2009 16:59:44 GMT
Correct me if i am wrong but isn't this the same manager who thought Pericard was a good player,still thinks we can't do without Sidibe,still plays players out of position even though he has wasted,sorry spent millions.........now ask yourself that question again........ Spot on boweryboy |
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Post by offthewall on Dec 27, 2009 17:00:11 GMT
I support TP
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Post by jarhead on Dec 27, 2009 17:01:55 GMT
1. He plays Mamma 2. He plays Whitehead 3. He plays Delap 4. He plays Diao 5. He plays all of the above in wrong positions 6. He leaves the better players on the bench 7. He is far to defensive and much prefers to keep a clean sheet than scores 8. He is a tactical dinosaur 9. He puts his own ego before the club and doesn't careless about Stoke 10. He usually plays 4 centre backs 11. He will buy more defensive work horses that bring no benefit in Jan 12. He has his favourites who play no matter how shit 13. He doesn't know how take this club any further 14. He dresses like a chav which is embarrassing 15. He has so many fans looking throw those rose tinted specs, he could bring his son back and all the happy clappers would be praising such a move 16. Although he got us up the simple fact is he isn't very good Then again non of the above matters because the cringeworthy amount who defend even the most stupid of decisions will always back him and these are the ones who stop the club progressing, the ones who still think we're in the fizzy pop league. Great shout |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 27, 2009 17:30:40 GMT
I like him, respect what he has done and really enjoy his interviews. However, he makes mistakes and this season he has missed several opportunities to go for it - Bolton away, Birmingham away, Wolves first half we could have killed the game, Wigan, Hull away, Liverpool and Man U. We could have earned 8 or 10 more points and could have been in a position by the Spring to experiment and evolve our style as part of the 3 year masterplan. As it is we are now desperately scrabbling for signings as we are staring a tough second half of the season in the face.
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no doubts with him at all 
