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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 26, 2009 19:43:15 GMT
Yet again he didn't get on the pitch, yet again he looked seriously pissed off, yet again there's NO WAY the side wouldn't have been improved by his presence... it's something else I've said before but if I was his agent I would be pushing unbelievably hard to get offers in for him, I'll honestly be surprised if he's still a Stoke player when the window closes.  |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Dec 26, 2009 19:49:14 GMT
Me too....As ive said before,today was the perfect game for him to attack Silvinho yet a limited defensive midfielder gets the nod.
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Post by mumf14 on Dec 26, 2009 19:49:22 GMT
Normally women and football don't go together, but on this occasion I think you may have a good point.  ;D |
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Post by mumf14 on Dec 26, 2009 19:50:38 GMT
How many Championship teams could Sidibe walk into .?
Answer ..Ipswich Town.
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Post by 811 on Dec 26, 2009 19:51:24 GMT
not a lot, wouldnt be surprised to see him push for a move and i'd be even less surprised if his agent isnt touting him about atm.
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Post by tawafij70 on Dec 26, 2009 19:53:02 GMT
Perfect opportunity against a 47 year old grey haired left-back and who does 'our tone' put against him................Dean 'Woody' Whitehead!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 26, 2009 19:57:18 GMT
It's impossible to reconcile TP's glowing public comments about Lawrence over the last 2 years, and his 4-year contract earlier this year, with the decision to give him 3 league starts in the last 4 months.
It's impossible trying to get your head around it because it makes no sense.
Do we think he just doesn't rate him anymore?
Have they had a huge row?
Has the underlying problem been compounded by some connection to Beattie/Towelgate?
Or is there still a problem with his dog/ankle/swine flu?
Surely we can't rule out a January move now? The longer this goes on, the more downright weird it seems.
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Post by Lightwood on Dec 26, 2009 20:01:23 GMT
With both Salif & Glen suspended for Brum game I will be amazed if Liam doesn't start.
If he does let's hope he has a blinder and secures a long term stay in the side.
the midfield for Brum game will certainly be interesting
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Post by scfcrmagic on Dec 26, 2009 20:02:15 GMT
He's a quality player who deserves to play....I can understand him getting pissed off
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Post by longtonstokie on Dec 26, 2009 20:03:43 GMT
Spot on wend.
longton.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 26, 2009 20:07:13 GMT
With both Salif & Glen suspended for Brum game I will be amazed if Liam doesn't start. If he does let's hope he has a blinder and secures a long term stay in the side. the midfield for Brum game will certainly be interesting Yeah - with those 2 out of the picture, it is hard to come up with a midfield for Monday that doesn't involve Lawrence. But whether that will tell us anything about how Pulis sees him longer-term and exactly what he's done to fall so dramatically out of his good books is a bit harder to say. |
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Post by 606Stokie on Dec 26, 2009 20:16:21 GMT
I think he will be gone by end of Jan...
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Post by Trouserdog on Dec 26, 2009 20:23:31 GMT
With both Salif & Glen suspended for Brum game I will be amazed if Liam doesn't start. If he does let's hope he has a blinder and secures a long term stay in the side. the midfield for Brum game will certainly be interesting Yeah - with those 2 out of the picture, it is hard to come up with a midfield for Monday that doesn't involve Lawrence. But whether that will tell us anything about how Pulis sees him longer-term and exactly what he's done to fall so dramatically out of his good books is a bit harder to say. I'm sure he'll find a way. Remember, if there's an obvious solution...Pulis will always find an inferior alternative. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Dec 26, 2009 20:27:08 GMT
Who could blame Lenny for asking for a move in a weeks' time? I couldn't.
The lad is now an established international player and is now way down the pecking order, whilst we get to see the likes of mamade Sidibe give one of the most anonymous displays on a football pitch I've veer seen.
I really hope the "Mama puts a shift in" brigade watch a video of todays game. Not only was he totally crap, but he put in aminimum effort too. Bloody Tuncay won more ball in the air.
If Sidibe starts a game in front of Lenny in any position on a football pitch I would question the manager.
It's footballing suicide.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Dec 26, 2009 20:27:15 GMT
Pulis signed him. He has featured 99% of the time before this season. He scored 15 goals in the championship. He is one of the fittest players in the team. He tracks back well, works hard and delivers quality set pieces.
All of the above points satisfy the Pulis selection criteria. The fact that TP is finding every possible excuse not to play him is just another example of more Pulis inepetitude and is part of the reason why our midfield is shite and that we can't score goals. If he goes then our midfield will remain broken for the rest of the season and we will continue to not score goals, slide down the league and be relegated unless a replacement is brought in.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Dec 26, 2009 20:34:28 GMT
Pulis will probably play:
Whitehead Delap Pugh Etherington
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Post by wherty on Dec 26, 2009 20:54:15 GMT
It is reported that inside information has been leaked about out Beatie n Pulis at Arsenal and 2 days later lennie comes down with the flu then lack of fitness etc.....Could Lennie be the inside spy hence he is now not playing????? Just a thought like...
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Post by Northy on Dec 26, 2009 21:00:56 GMT
It is reported that inside information has been leaked about out Beatie n Pulis at Arsenal and 2 days later lennie comes down with the flu then lack of fitness etc.....Could Lennie be the inside spy hence he is now not playing????? Just a thought like... Is that what somebody on P&G said, my radio signal was bouncing in and out going through Mos Side when it was on. |
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Post by smithy27 on Dec 26, 2009 21:17:51 GMT
makes no sense not playing Lawrence,he would definitely create more chances than we are making at the moment and can understand him wanting away if things stay as they are
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Post by Davef on Dec 27, 2009 11:53:01 GMT
On Radio Stoke last night John Acres offered the opinion (or possibly relayed Pulis's opinion) that Dean Whitehead and Rory Delap are currently playing on the right side instead of Liam Lawrence because they're less likely to cost us a goal.
Yes, that's right, even in home games against the likes of Wigan and Portsmouth, Liam isn't considered for selection now because he could cost us a goal!
Perhaps somebody out there could pinpoint the last time an individual error from Liam Lawrence cost us a goal?
We're now talking about dropping a player who has contributed so much to this club over the past three years or so, who has scored and created many goals, because he MIGHT cost us a goal? Have you ever heard such utter horseshit in your life? Forget the quality Lawrence possesses, forget the goals he can score for you or the goals he can create, let's keep him out of the team because of some fuckwit opinion that playing him might mean the other team scores a goal. Give me strength!
If Liam Lawrence is likely to cost us a goal, then why can't the same pathetic excuse be used to drop Matty Etherington and stick someone like Danny Pugh out on the left wing?
The Lawrence situation needs clarifying and sorting out now. If Pulis is excluding him from the first team because of some personal issue then he's out of order. The good of the team comes before anything else and unless he can find a better player to play on our right wing (and that's going to be very, very difficult) then Liam Lawrence should play.
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Post by longtonstokie on Dec 27, 2009 12:01:30 GMT
It is interesting to note that the improvement to the second half of last season coincided with the arrival of Beattie, Etherington and Liams return from injury!!
Longton.
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Dec 27, 2009 13:44:10 GMT
He's had swine flu so he can't be "Stoke fit" yet.
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 27, 2009 14:01:23 GMT
It's a mystery, Sal. I'm in absolutely no doubt that he and Pulis have 'issues'. The lad is better off elsewhere rather than being a plaything of Pulis's egotistical mind games.
OS.
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Post by mark71 on Dec 27, 2009 14:03:16 GMT
He's had swine flu so he can't be "Stoke fit" yet. Unlike mama and Diao who are the fittest players at the club after not playing any games in pre season  |
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 27, 2009 14:10:35 GMT
Yet again he didn't get on the pitch, yet again he looked seriously pissed off, yet again there's NO WAY the side wouldn't have been improved by his presence... it's something else I've said before but if I was his agent I would be pushing unbelievably hard to get offers in for him, I'll honestly be surprised if he's still a Stoke player when the window closes. Bloody hell talk about overreacting.He has been ill,and the team played well last week.A decision was then made not to change the team.Liam would have come on yesterday had Wilko not been injured. If fit he will start on Saturday. |
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Dec 27, 2009 14:12:37 GMT
On Radio Stoke last night John Acres offered the opinion (or possibly relayed Pulis's opinion) that Dean Whitehead and Rory Delap are currently playing on the right side instead of Liam Lawrence because they're less likely to cost us a goal. Yes, that's right, even in home games against the likes of Wigan and Portsmouth, Liam isn't considered for selection now because he could cost us a goal! Perhaps somebody out there could pinpoint the last time an individual error from Liam Lawrence cost us a goal? We're now talking about dropping a player who has contributed so much to this club over the past three years or so, who has scored and created many goals, because he MIGHT cost us a goal? Have you ever heard such utter horseshit in your life? Forget the quality Lawrence possesses, forget the goals he can score for you or the goals he can create, let's keep him out of the team because of some fuckwit opinion that playing him might mean the other team scores a goal. Give me strength! If Liam Lawrence is likely to cost us a goal, then why can't the same pathetic excuse be used to drop Matty Etherington and stick someone like Danny Pugh out on the left wing? The Lawrence situation needs clarifying and sorting out now. If Pulis is excluding him from the first team because of some personal issue then he's out of order. The good of the team comes before anything else and unless he can find a better player to play on our right wing (and that's going to be very, very difficult) then Liam Lawrence should play. Have some karma dave i couldnt agree more |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 27, 2009 14:15:17 GMT
It is indeed utter madness to keep playing with 1 winger who becomes cream crackered after 60 to 70 mins. There simply must be issues with Liam. I dont what but Liam will alwys give 100% even if there are issues
The Acres comment makes no sense as Liam is as good as anyone tracking back. For TP to come out and say we are not scoring enough and then playing with 1 winger, 2 holding midfielders and a target man, with one forward only is baffling to me.
Especially at Man City who we know a) score goals againt EVERYONE b) leak goals against everyone cept us. 1st clean sheet in 8 says it all
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 27, 2009 14:19:14 GMT
Its a mystery to me why he is not playing, he is fine defensively as he proved in both games against France and for us in all the games hehas played so the only reasons that he is not playing in my mind can be 1, Fitness or 2, He has fallen out of favour . I imagine the situation will become clearer by the end of Jan one way or another he will be back in the side or gone
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Post by actongatestokie on Dec 27, 2009 15:09:20 GMT
Too many "If's" and not enough "I know's". Let's be honest, something has'nt been right since the day he supposedly legged himself up on his dog last season. Beattie/Towelgate has merely muddied the waters of confusion. I hate to say "I told you so", but I did say after the Beattie affair that Liam was next in line for the harsh treatment/chop. Something is'nt right somewhere. You don't go from being the manager's favourite and supposed "best ever signing in football" to a bench warmer without something being seriously wrong somewhere. It'll all come out in the wash. Pulis will end up being right though.  ;D |
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Post by fromafar07 on Dec 27, 2009 15:10:40 GMT
Wouldnt blame him or Tuncay if the yboth put in transfer requests in januray !!
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