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Post by dorsetstokie on Dec 5, 2009 23:16:39 GMT
Still he says we were smashing today. What planet was he on and why was he comparing it to last years display? We didnt have a single opportunity and they should and could of won by at least 6....
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 5, 2009 23:20:33 GMT
Were you Dorset?
We could have lost by more for sure, but it was a much better display from us. Whilst not troubling the keeper, several times we looked like we would do.
We were in the game until the end and it was a much improved offering when compared to last years pathetic attempts.
There were many positives to take from today, not least the display from the two full-backs, Salif and the glimpses of class from Tuncay.
Watching the game on MOTD doesn't always tell the whole story you know?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 5, 2009 23:21:13 GMT
Were you there, Dorset?
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 5, 2009 23:23:20 GMT
davejohnno spot on, you only have to look at the 2 thousand stokies at the end, on their feet giving them a standing ovation for their efforts! full backs played well, diao played well, matty continuing his threat on the left and tuncay is just class! i was really pleased with us today, well done stoke
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Post by Targaryen Stokie on Dec 5, 2009 23:24:30 GMT
Why would he not compare it to last years display? It's all about improving, we lost 2-0 and although it could of been more we were still in it for the majority of the game.
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Post by dorsetstokie on Dec 5, 2009 23:24:30 GMT
was there and thought first half was awful. never saw last years display but why should you be comparing it to that...not for one or two occasions in the second half did we look like getting even close. love wilko but he got raped today.
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Post by BoxxyTheLost on Dec 5, 2009 23:30:35 GMT
was there and thought first half was awful. never saw last years display but why should you be comparing it to that...not for one or two occasions in the second half did we look like getting even close. love wilko but he got raped today. i call bullshit. if you'd seen the whole game you'd known that we played very well. and if you'd like to point out when exactly wilko got "raped"? |
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Post by Targaryen Stokie on Dec 5, 2009 23:33:20 GMT
was there and thought first half was awful. never saw last years display but why should you be comparing it to that...not for one or two occasions in the second half did we look like getting even close. love wilko but he got raped today. i call bullshit. if you'd seen the whole game you'd known that we played very well. and if you'd like to point out when exactly wilko got "raped"? I agree, Wilko acquitted himself very well and made some great tackles against world class opposition. We did our best, at the end of the day Arsenal are a far superior team, especially on their own turf. |
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Post by dorsetstokie on Dec 5, 2009 23:34:13 GMT
spam please tell me a time during the match you remember a sequence of at least three times we strung the ball together.
would you be saying this had arsenal scored all their chances?
wake up man
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Post by Inverness Stokie on Dec 6, 2009 0:07:24 GMT
Well done lads ! Well done to the Stokies who travelled down.  |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 6, 2009 2:06:38 GMT
I have no problem with today. We went for it as much as we could. And ontained them as well as we could.
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Post by One-Two on Dec 6, 2009 2:52:43 GMT
spam please tell me a time during the match you remember a sequence of at least three times we strung the ball together. would you be saying this had arsenal scored all their chances? wake up man Quite a few times during the 10 minute "dominance" (to quote a commentator) early on in the game. Jesus, we have just played a very, very good team in Arsenal, they will beat far better teams than us this season by a far greater margin. Two and a half years ago we could only dream of visiting grounds such as the emirates and really giving it a go, and being in the match after 70 minutes. It will take years and years of staying in this league (the greatest in the world) before we can even realistically hope to gain even a point away to a team like arsenal, with a home record that good and a team that strong and technically gifted! Don't forget that we are a hundred times more likely to be relagated this season than to be getting the results you seem to want, one good season and a half decent start to our second does not guarantee us safety, we need lots of luck and lots of patience before we are at the stage when we can honestly say on the first game of each season, I am 100% sure we are too good to be relegated this season, and we are more likely to be playing in europe next season than to be in the championship. Some of us really need to wake up and realise that the team we played against today, and did ourselves proud against, have players who individually, are worth more than the value of our entire squad and stadium put together. I for one am extremely proud of our performance today, and am only looking at the positives; Diao was excellent, Sorensen was once again outstanding, the full-backs looked good against world class opposition, Tuncay got a full 90 mins, and although many of them were offside, he was making intelligent runs. Often it was the pass coming late rather than his run being early, but with more match time the players around him can start to understand his game better and far more of those runs will come off. Yes arsenal had chances to increase the scoreline, but our players gave everything, and as fans we can't ask for any more, against opposition like this, we need to accept that without lots of luck, our best simply isn't going to be good enough. So I am very happy with what I saw today, and no fan should be disappointed IMO, because to be disappointed you would have had to have been expecting points, which we cannot do at this VERY early stage in our premier league history, we can all hope yes, but expect, against a club of arsenal's stature, no. So be proud of your team, and instead of moaning for god's sake, look back five years and compare our team, our league and our opposition, and just be thankful we aren't playing Gillingham and Crewe! It wasn't so long ago we lost 8-0 to a Liverpool team poorer than the arsenal side we faced today! So stop moaning and be proud of our team and what we have achieved! |
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Post by sheikh al dubai bin stokie on Dec 6, 2009 7:07:23 GMT
was there and thought first half was awful. never saw last years display but why should you be comparing it to that...not for one or two occasions in the second half did we look like getting even close. love wilko but he got raped today. i wasnt there, but watched it all live. I thought some of our football in the first half and parts of the second was some of the best ive seen us play for ages... if we'd have played like that against one of our 'true' rivals we would have torn them a new one. |
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Post by soicowboy2 on Dec 6, 2009 7:29:32 GMT
I was real proud of the way we played today. Sadly some can't grasp reality and see that we're never going to go to places like Arsenal and outplay them but we contained them pretty welll and of course they created chance-FFS look at their goalscoring record at home. We were beaten 2-0 by one of Europe's top sides and some idiots still feel the need to moan and pick faults. Beaten but in no way humiliated.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 6, 2009 7:42:11 GMT
I watched live on internet and thought we played well. In particular there were two prolonged periods when, with a bit more luck, we could have scored. Rory's longthrows would, on another day, resulted in a goal but aluminium got lucky in arsholes goal. Had the ball bounced a bit more favourably for Tunch in the second half he would have had a blinding chance to equalise. Also Wilkos goal saving tacklle in second half was top draw for me. Even when we were 2 down I always had a feeling that given a bit more luck we could get back in it. BTW Clattenburg gave the best ref display this season imo.
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Post by eddiecurrent on Dec 6, 2009 8:01:18 GMT
was there and thought first half was awful. never saw last years display but why should you be comparing it to that...not for one or two occasions in the second half did we look like getting even close. love wilko but he got raped today. There is simply no way that you were at yesterdays game! |
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Post by Winge on Dec 6, 2009 8:43:22 GMT
davejohnno spot on, you only have to look at the 2 thousand stokies at the end, on their feet giving them a standing ovation for their efforts! full backs played well, diao played well, matty continuing his threat on the left and tuncay is just class! i was really pleased with us today, well done stoke I agree totally .... well played Stoke i enjoyed my day with my daughter in the big smoke ...... only negative was a poor display by Huth .... at fault for both goals!! |
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Post by brightonstokie on Dec 6, 2009 9:03:42 GMT
spam please tell me a time during the match you remember a sequence of at least three times we strung the ball together. would you be saying this had arsenal scored all their chances? wake up man Stop your arse from doing the talking |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 6, 2009 9:34:33 GMT
If we play like that next week we have a good chance of winning.
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Post by iwwwsatv on Dec 6, 2009 9:54:40 GMT
I can away disappointed.... but that does not mean we did not do well. Man for man, stoke players put the effort in. I think TP had the right tactics for the game.
My only comments would be, we need to play more 'easy' ball and find our players, and not give the ball away so cheaply. (easier said than done)
Well do Stoke, and as I was sitting in the stand with the 'arse..nal supporters, they made numerous comments about how good the stoke support was and the volume of their singing
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 6, 2009 10:04:03 GMT
We are praising the team for going out from minute one with the sole intention of damage limitation. Just think about that before jizzing your underwear over a 2-0 defeat.
The coverage on MOTD was embarrassing watching for a Stoke City fan. Two banks of 4 on the edge of our own box trying to defend like crazy. It should have been at least 5-0. The only 'attacking' play shown for Stoke was a Tuncay effort that he did well to create from a hopeful Lawrence up and under - even this didn't reach the goal as it was blocked.
The team desperately needs at least one quality Centre Midfielder. Someone who can get hold of the ball, look comfortable on it and bring good players like Ethers, LL, Fuller etc into the game.
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Post by stokebill on Dec 6, 2009 10:05:11 GMT
It reminded me very much of the Spurs game yesterday, and arguably Sorensen topped Simo's display in that game. A good display from Stoke against top opposition, and there was a strong belief that we might snatch a draw, from the hour mark we matched them blow for blow for a period and they looked to be slowly running out of steam.
They carved us open at times but didn't finish us off. That experience is hardly unique against Arsenal though is it.
I thought Huth and Faye stood up well to the challenge and this isn't a criticism, but I do wonder if Arsenal's goals may have met an outstretched Shawcross leg on another day, we'll never know.
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Post by chell_rosey on Dec 6, 2009 10:07:24 GMT
(1) was there and thought first half was awful. never saw last years display but why should you be comparing it to that...not for one or two occasions in the second half did we look like getting even close. (2) love wilko but he got raped today. 1. Hogwash 2. Utter hogwash The rest? Bollocks. |
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Post by SCFC92 on Dec 6, 2009 10:30:59 GMT
We are praising the team for going out from minute one with the sole intention of damage limitation. Just think about that before jizzing your underwear over a 2-0 defeat. The coverage on MOTD was embarrassing watching for a Stoke City fan. Two banks of 4 on the edge of our own box trying to defend like crazy. It should have been at least 5-0. The only 'attacking' play shown for Stoke was a Tuncay effort that he did well to create from a hopeful Lawrence up and under - even this didn't reach the goal as it was blocked. The team desperately needs at least one quality Centre Midfielder. Someone who can get hold of the ball, look comfortable on it and bring good players like Ethers, LL, Fuller etc into the game. Yesterday was bonus points, We did well to keep it at 2-0 as this season Arsenal have been free scoring at the Emirates, take 6-2 against Blackburn for one example. I thought yesterday was no problem, we went to a team who are a class above nearly all teams in the premier league and we did not buckle, we held firm and kept it to a 2-0. I was happy with the performance of both the team and the Stoke fans (apart from the "incidents"). It showed us as well that Tuncay does have something, because I thought in patches yesterday he was brilliant, it also showed how good Collins can be, how good Diao can be, Delap can be in the middle. Wigan is much more important than Arsenal, I am not worried about losing to a Big 4 team like we did, bring on Wigan! Some fans need to wake up and realise what they are saying. |
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Post by boweryboy on Dec 6, 2009 11:12:56 GMT
dave......what match of the day showed you is how big slow and easily side stepped our central defenders are against a team who plays it on the floor and have a quick SMALL forward in the mold of Defoe who always scores against us,why would any team play into our hands by banging the ball in the air against our defence when you can cut through it like a knife through butter playing pass and go football,the smallest player up front was there biggest threat all afternoon.Huth to get into the German team,i don't think so ,he should be no where near the Stoke team on that performance..........
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2009 11:14:43 GMT
We are praising the team for going out from minute one with the sole intention of damage limitation. Just think about that before jizzing your underwear over a 2-0 defeat. The coverage on MOTD was embarrassing watching for a Stoke City fan. Two banks of 4 on the edge of our own box trying to defend like crazy. It should have been at least 5-0. The only 'attacking' play shown for Stoke was a Tuncay effort that he did well to create from a hopeful Lawrence up and under - even this didn't reach the goal as it was blocked. The team desperately needs at least one quality Centre Midfielder. Someone who can get hold of the ball, look comfortable on it and bring good players like Ethers, LL, Fuller etc into the game. We were playing Arsenal away mate. |
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Post by Mr Ron Agent on Dec 6, 2009 11:25:31 GMT
I can confirm that Dorsetstokie is in fact correct. TP was not there yesterday as I saw him in the Blue Mugge in Leek having a few beers with Huddy. That bloke at Highbury was an actor who looks like TP, a sort of stunt double who TP employs when he's fed up of doing press and TV stuff. TP phones Mark O'Connor on his mobile from time to time to keep up with the game. Mind you TP was fuming in the pub yesterday as apparently this actor bloke got the team wrong. Tuncay was supposed to be on the bench as usual but managed to persuade TP's double that he should play. Probably slipped him 2 billion old Turkish lira or something...  |
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Post by trebor63 on Dec 6, 2009 11:27:55 GMT
We are praising the team for going out from minute one with the sole intention of damage limitation. Just think about that before jizzing your underwear over a 2-0 defeat. The coverage on MOTD was embarrassing watching for a Stoke City fan. Two banks of 4 on the edge of our own box trying to defend like crazy. It should have been at least 5-0. The only 'attacking' play shown for Stoke was a Tuncay effort that he did well to create from a hopeful Lawrence up and under - even this didn't reach the goal as it was blocked. The team desperately needs at least one quality Centre Midfielder. Someone who can get hold of the ball, look comfortable on it and bring good players like Ethers, LL, Fuller etc into the game. Oh dear I think to anyone that actually went that reads as 'I didn't go to the match but watched five minutes of highlights on tele' If you had actually gone to the game you would have seen us keep the ball ijn Arsenals half for long periods though admittedly we didn't actually have a cutting edge. The game only ended as a contest when they scored the second imo. Until that moment we made Arsenal look a little nervy and we had created three or four half chances that might have nicked us something in a game that frankly Barcelona would settle for a point in! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 6, 2009 11:31:53 GMT
PUGSLEY...MOTD is a shit programme designed to accentuate the myth that the top 4 are marvellous and that the premier leagues is the best in the world.
Judging a game on the basis of MOTD coverage is pure folly and makes such opinions of little worth.
We did set out to stop them and to keep ourselves in the game for as long as possible and we did pretty well. As Arsene Wenger acknowledged himself, we always looked a threat on the break and from set-pieces and I actually thought we would snatch a goal whilst 1-0 down.
We did OK against a team, who on their day, are the team most likely to destroy teams such as ours. I was quite pleased with our efforts to be honest and I am a fully paid up PHW.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 6, 2009 11:40:05 GMT
So if we’re comparing it to last season when we lost 4-0 as progress then on the same principle I’d expect us to beat the Arse by at least 2 clear goals when they come to the Brit.  Gouranga.  |
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