|
Post by mermaidsal on Nov 26, 2009 15:04:57 GMT
Bosted's Right to Reply thread has brought several things to a head for me about how we do things here (I'm also taking notice of a couple of really thoughtful responses to that on the other place).
For me, when this part of the board works well it's something of a free for all, with clear limits but with those limits set really quite a long way out. The thing is I'm not a natural policeman and at the end of the day I don't have much respect for human beings who either need authority or are anxious to be authority figures. I'm certainly not bothered about superficial things like people saying fuck or cunt, so long as it's not done viciously. That's just the way many of us talk these days. What I try and do is keep things running reasonably smoothly and intervene only when that's failed badly. Being human sometimes I call that one correctly and sometimes I don't.
But, there's the question of personal abuse. On the main board, especially when tempers run high on matchdays, it's pretty clear when someone's really OTT and needs to go. Here it's always been looser and things are said in a friendly spirit which would get someone banned for life on a more prissy or pedantic board. That's not a problem for me as I say. The trouble I feel I'm/we're running across is where to draw the line when for whatever reason there's genuine dislike between individual posters or groups of posters. When bullying becomes persistent bans get issued, which has been done in the past and will be done again, but that's not the issue at the moment, at least not as I'm seeing it. The question is where free speech, self-defence and honest disagreement stops and unacceptable behaviour takes over.
I now think I probably let Bosted's put the record straight thread go on for too long unchecked - but when I consider the alternative, locking or binning it straight away, that feels wrong too. And the last thing I want to do is stop opinionated posters coming on here. Some people who prefer more authority and a more ordered environment will be happier elsewhere in any case and that's fine, there are other good places to go - this part board is different though because it's gained its own, I think, special and good character from the posters, not the management.
So what are we doing right at the moment, what are we doing wrong and for that matter would you rather have a regular policeman rather than a responsible anarchist modding GDB??
xxx
|
|
|
Post by b34ts on Nov 26, 2009 15:11:30 GMT
You know the warning you last gave me sexy sally babes, did the other person get one?
|
|
|
Post by Northy on Nov 26, 2009 15:14:39 GMT
Sal, it's fine as it is as long as people don't start abusing other people or personal attacks, Just because people are different or have different opinions they shouldn't be abused. I don't know who's who's mate on here and there is obviously a group set on Rhodesy, but i don't know if they are mates having banter or it is keyboard warrioring ? I suppose the only way to know is if it gets reported, is he 14 or 16 and what are the legals around it, glad I'm not a mod to tread the thin line. What you should have is another page for anal sex and sick jokes talk, that way people who don't like it don't have to have it rammed down them
|
|
|
Post by french toast on Nov 26, 2009 15:18:58 GMT
ffs not this again i want a monkeyaids infested board where we all can have a laugh, and where the bullys can also take it aswell its alright as it is, IF ITS NOT BROKEN DONT TRY AND FIX IT
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2009 15:24:16 GMT
I think you’re doing a fine job Sal. If anyone is giving her stick then they need to drop it IMO. Being a Mod is always going to split opinions. Any decision you make is not going to please every single poster. This place is full of very different (weird and wonderful) people (even people like Beardy) and everyone is going to have different opinions on various things. You can guarantee that if you have been banned then you have very much crossed the line so you can’t really have much to complain about. It’s not exactly strict on here (jesus knows I’ve gotten away with some very dodgy stuff being posted!!) so if you have gone too far and been banned you need to man up, take in on the chin and get on with it when allowed back on (and even apologise if you can “man up” enough). You can’t win Sal. If you take action you will find some to disagree with you and if you take inaction and do nothing you will find others who disagree too. You are doing a fine job. Carry on “Don’t let the bastards drag you down” WD
|
|
|
Post by Beardy200 on Nov 26, 2009 15:29:01 GMT
Of course there is a group set on Rhodesy NS but the whole point is he doesn't mind surely? If he did, and as he is so young, then yeah, you could class it as bullying i suppose but he joins in the fun of it all and likes the attention. He's admitted it enough times. When you get on to two blokes in their 40's argueing then a bit of petty name-calling is hardly crime of the century is it? For me where adults are concerned it only steps over the line when threats of violence start coming out. Bosted's back, he's had his say, a few people got some things off their chests and on we go. A bit of argueing here and there is amusing and fun i think and only goes overboard when it finds itself onto nearly every thread like when ID and Chirper were at it all the time. You've got it just about right Sal and do a great job.
|
|
|
Post by french toast on Nov 26, 2009 15:31:16 GMT
Of course there is a group set on Rhodesy NS but the whole point is he doesn't mind surely? If he did, and as he is so young, then yeah, you could class it as bullying i suppose but he joins in the fun of it all and likes the attention. He's admitted it enough times. When you get on to two blokes in their 40's argueing then a bit of petty name-calling is hardly crime of the century is it? For me where adults are concerned it only steps over the line when threats of violence start coming out. Bosted's back, he's had his say, a few people got some things off their chests and on we go. A bit of argueing here and there is amusing and fun i think and only goes overboard when it finds itself onto nearly every thread like when ID and Chirper were at it all the time. meet me by the hamburger stand you big gay, ill fist you into next week ;D
|
|
|
Post by Beardy200 on Nov 26, 2009 15:33:19 GMT
Can i have onions and mustard on it? ;D
|
|
|
Post by scfcrmagic on Nov 26, 2009 15:35:57 GMT
Think you do a great job sal.....most people on here give as good as they get...and other posters do stand up for those being unreasonably picked on ...its only the odd occasion it gets out of hand and thats the same for most things...keep up the good work .. ;D ;D ;D
|
|
|
Post by Northy on Nov 26, 2009 15:36:22 GMT
That's fine then Beardy, if he's admitted he likes the attention, As long as he doesn't jump off the Runcorn bridge with a suicide note listing all you guys as his evil tormentors And as long as he jumps off on a day when I'm not using the bridge, I don't mind.
|
|
|
Post by french toast on Nov 26, 2009 15:37:25 GMT
Can i have onions and mustard on it? ;D you can have red sauce too
|
|
|
Post by StokieMatt on Nov 26, 2009 15:37:30 GMT
sal your doing fine
|
|
|
Post by ben88 on Nov 26, 2009 15:45:46 GMT
your doing a good job sal,
the only things that should be banned here are.............
# personal attacks # no nips # blatent racism, i dont mean a racist joke, i mean someone like that tit the other night who implied that every single immagrint wanted to blow us up.
anything else should go i think
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2009 15:49:35 GMT
your doing a good job sal, the only things that should be banned here are............. # personal attacks # no nips # blatent racism, i dont mean a racist joke, i mean someone like that tit the other night who implied that every single immagrint wanted to blow us up. anything else should go i think Fuck off Ben.
|
|
|
Post by hoekofneverland on Nov 26, 2009 15:56:13 GMT
As soon as I read the title I thought Fee For All
and don't take it so fcukin serious to all the head up arse brigade that like to hear themselve talk.
Lighten up give and take
I'm done
Will retreat to my den ;D
|
|
|
Post by lew86 on Nov 26, 2009 15:58:56 GMT
She said cunt
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2009 16:03:56 GMT
Shut up, cunt.
|
|
|
Post by b34ts on Nov 26, 2009 16:04:48 GMT
As soon as I read the title I thought Fee For All and don't take it so fcukin serious to all the head up arse brigade that like to hear themselve talk. Lighten up give and take I'm done Will retreat to my den ;D MARDARSE
|
|
|
Post by hoekofneverland on Nov 26, 2009 16:05:14 GMT
You do it very well for me Sal. Although you can be too soft with the cotton wool brigade Take NO notice of any Fester that says you don't The only thing Fester has got right over there is banning of politics. WE should do it immediately it has to have more freedom than that place to do well and it always has and will one way to fcuk it all up and lose posters is to keep changing rules. if they can't cope with banter on a footy message board they're on they wrong board Try the WI for pleasantries
|
|
|
Post by b34ts on Nov 26, 2009 16:05:54 GMT
You do it very well for me Sal. Although you can be too soft with the cotton wool brigade The only thing Fester has got right over there is banning of politics. WE should do it imediately CRYBABY
|
|
|
Post by french toast on Nov 26, 2009 16:06:05 GMT
i think fraz should be banned
|
|
|
Post by b34ts on Nov 26, 2009 16:07:17 GMT
Yeah frasier should be gone, you can't trust him.
|
|
|
Post by hoekofneverland on Nov 26, 2009 16:11:54 GMT
Couldnt ban me because i own the site
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2009 16:16:44 GMT
Less mardarses. If You did that though it'd be fookin' empty! ;D
|
|
|
Post by ben88 on Nov 26, 2009 16:16:56 GMT
Couldnt ban me because i own the site well i am the internet, my name is william will williamson, and if i say your banned, then so it shall be.
|
|
|
Post by myleftboot on Nov 26, 2009 16:21:02 GMT
I personally like the GDB the way it used to be on Rivals, random threads, a great laugh and banter without all this daft bitching (which half the time is banter anyway but people don't see it like that).
This is a messageboard after all and we are all Stokies so really I don't see a problem as to why people get knarked. If you don't like a topic then simply do not reply and send the thread into a complete slanging match. If people want to argue over crap they may have against a person then do it on PM.
We have lost a lot of the older posters who used the Rivals site because of half the daft replies that get posted on here from immature kids. Sorry but it is true.
|
|
|
Post by buxtop on Nov 26, 2009 16:21:12 GMT
Less mardarses. If You did that though it'd be fookin' empty! ;D ;D
|
|
|
Post by hoekofneverland on Nov 26, 2009 16:22:29 GMT
I shall loosen my tie put my feet on the table and re-boot
|
|
|
Post by stokecrusader1960 on Nov 26, 2009 16:44:50 GMT
SALLY, ;)I don't post much nowadays. This is no reflection on your good self. ;D But Sally and there is a But In a simalar vein to Northwich, I don't want to go on to a thread that looks good. And then to see it's full of kids posting vulgar obsene homosexusual muslim loving crap. Your Pulis hating bosses, soon come down on anybody from the real world. I hate middle Eastern muslims. so what. At least I will stand by that conviction. I went into hospital two nights ago for a broken knee. I will wait and wait I did untill I was looked at by a non stanendingname Doctor. And when I could go home, I asked for a non muslim taxi firm. When he called my name when he arrived, I thought fcuk , are they taking the piss. He did'nt look like the average suicide bomber, but I still asked him why was he wearing such a big coat. He took it off and asked me if it was ok. I got in the car thinking, no he looks OK. Then for some strange reason we got on to Alcohol and then told me he can't drink he's muslim from pakistan. God God alarm bells, but I was on my way home and no sign of any ticking so I carried on wishing every minute by. And he turns to me and say's he hate Chineses people becuase they come over here and don't even speak a word of English. As well as having a stanley driving, he's a racist stan. Why can't you be allowed by law, to carry axes. I got home and took some extra Diazipan and fell asleep. I don't really know why I've told you that, but it's all true .??? ;D BONDY I still fcuking hate them, but sadly they don't all go around looking like binummingagainladen SALLY, you do a superb job, I would love to do it.
|
|
|
Post by bostedclog on Nov 26, 2009 16:48:55 GMT
That's fine then Beardy, if he's admitted he likes the attention, As long as he doesn't jump off the Runcorn bridge with a suicide note listing all you guys as his evil tormentors And as long as he jumps off on a day when I'm not using the bridge, I don't mind. "Admitted I like attention" .Northwich thats the last thing I want ,Im quite content with my life thank you and dont post on Delilahs or here for anything else other than to have a bit of banter and talk crap . If people want to call each other cunts ,twats and tell each other to fuck off thats fine by me.. I, by nature of my personality dont get involved in groups or clicks of people and tend to keep a little distance if I can.Ive never posted on any of the Stickies on here like the 9-5 ers for instance.. But telling people to fuck off in a nasty and provocative way is where the line is crossed.It isnt difficult to know when it is meant viciously or in a friendly way (apart from Beardy who just winks after every thread). But as we said the other day Sal some people do need more protection and thats when it becomes difficult because its impossible to judge a person and whether they can take it or not.And thats where the system as it is falls down. Perhaps you should start a sticky Sal where people can go and abuse each other 24/7 and not allow it any where else. I dont get it why people have to do it anyway . ??? I just dont get it. Im expecting my Karma to be demolished now .. ;D ;D Go on you know you want to .Enjoy
|
|